MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

  • #341
Senior MAGA figures have been blasted by their fellow conservatives and even the National Rifle Association for quickly declaring that the Department of Homeland Security's killing of a protester in Minneapolis was justified.

Woah, even the DM is coming out swinging. You lose the DM, you've lost the plot JMO.
 
  • #342
Wait, what? Bondi is asking MN for its voter rolls. From the letter she sent Gov Walz, she wants MN to:

Allow the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division to access Minnesota’s voter rolls to confirm the state’s voter registration policies comply with federal law.

Ah, so it was never about immigration? Noted.
 
  • #343
"A federal judge in Minnesota has granted a temporary restraining order blocking federal agencies from destroying or altering evidence related to the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by a federal agent in Minneapolis.

US District Judge Eric Tostrud issued an order on Saturday evening barring federal defendants – including the Department of Homeland Security and federal immigration agencies – from destroying or altering any evidence related to the shooting.

This includes evidence allegedly removed from the scene or taken into exclusive federal custody, the order said."

 
  • #344
It's chilling that the fed officials lied today, and it's just as chilling that there are people in the public who defend the lies.

jmo
Without the people lapping up the bs, the officials wouldn’t be in power.
 
  • #345
It's legal with a permit to open carry in Minnesota. Just because he was carrying a gun, doesn't mean it was out and he was threatening someone with it.

MOO

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If he was an illegal immigrant, then he did not have a carry permit. And, if he was wanted for a “violent assault,” he would not have been allowed by law to be in possession of a firearm.
 
  • #346
It's legal with a permit to open carry in Minnesota. Just because he was carrying a gun, doesn't mean it was out and he was threatening someone with it.

MOO

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I’m sorry. I misread the article. I thought that it said the man they were trying to apprehend was in possession of the firearm.
 
  • #347
IMO This is not live action role playing. Calling your self a legal observer does not cloak you from the law. A legal observer is not a protected status. Again, dangerous obstruction of a legal, federal operation. Unlawful assembly. These are not the Robin Hood’s of our society. Yet, this behavior will continue to be encouraged by some officials, giving the dangerous and false impression that you will successfully stop federal operations. IMO

Even if this was considered "unlawful assembly", that is a misdemeanor charge in MN. Not a death sentence penalty.

I think that the autopsy will find that Alex was shot in the back multiple times (maybe 10 or 11 times) while laying front-down on the ground.

imo
 
  • #348
Even if this was considered "unlawful assembly", that is a misdemeanor charge in MN. Not a death sentence penalty.

I think that the autopsy will find that Alex was shot in the back multiple times (maybe 10 or 11 times) while laying front-down on the ground.

imo
This is so terrible that I really have no words. It is sickening, and I don't even live in the US. How must Americans feel at this time?
 
  • #349
If he was an illegal immigrant, then he did not have a carry permit. And, if he was wanted for a “violent assault,” he would not have been allowed by law to be in possession of a firearm.

The victim ........ "The man has been identified as Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a 37-year-old US citizen, intensive care unit (ICU) nurse and Veterans Affairs employee.
Pretti was born in Illinois and grew up in Green Bay, Wisconsin."


It is the person who ICE were looking for (not Alex Pretti) who is a 51-year old person who had charges in his background.

 
  • #350
I’m sure this administration will try to spin it as he was armed and posing a threat to the officers (even if video evidence proves otherwise) but MN is a legal concealed carry state and the Minneapolis police chief has already confirmed that the victim did have a legal permit to carry a gun and had zero criminal history besides a few speeding tickets. He clearly isn’t using his own gun or even able to reach his gun in any video I’ve seen so far, before they started shooting him point blank as he laid on the ground
That’s all they do. Lie, lie, lie and lie some more about everything. I’ve watched every video of Alex’s death, he was not a threat to them. The fact that anyone is still listening to the Trump administration on anything is ridiculous.
 
  • #351
Moo..think the powers that be are going to have a hard time spinning this shooting in their favour. So many videos.....moo
 
  • #352
IMO This is not live action role playing. Calling your self a legal observer does not cloak you from the law.

Shooting unarmed, not threatening person multiple times and then preventing the medical help has nothing to do with the law. IMO, of course.
 
  • #353

Defense Secretary shares advice on 'how to avoid ICE'​

Pete Hegseth has posted a graphic on X of an ICE officer and a series of instructions for "how to avoid ICE". They are listed as "don't be here illegally", "don't attack ICE officers", and "obey federal and state laws".

He also linked back to another post earlier in the night in which he wrotethat the "patriots" of ICE are "saving the country", saying "we have your back 100%."

"Shame on the leadership of Minnesota - and the lunatics in the street", he wrote.

"don't be here illegally" - Alex Pretti was an American citizen.

"don't attack ICE officers" - he didn't. He went to the aid of a women who had been pushed to the ground by an ICE officer and was pepper sprayed in the face for his trouble.

"obey federal and state laws" - and what law was Alex Pretti breaking, exactly?
 
  • #354
"At first glance, there may not appear to be anything unusual about the social media posts that are part of the ongoing recruitment drive by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
...

"I would describe it as oddly very familiar as someone who has been looking at the white nationalist and neo-Nazi movement for nearly a decade now," said Hannah Gais, a senior research analyst with the Southern Poverty Law Centre, a non-profit that monitors right-wing extremism. "It's disturbing to see that coming from a government agency."

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The post echoed a meme popular among right-wing influencers, who use the phrase "Which way, Western man?" to illustrate a choice between an image meant to represent liberal values and an image representing their own preferred option.

But the phrase itself is taken from the title of a 700-page antisemetic nonfiction book written by William Gayley Simpson and published by a neo-Nazi press in the late 1970s. The book has long been a favourite among white supremacists.
...

David Lapan, a government communications specialist who was a DHS spokesperson during the first Trump administration, said the department appears to be trying to recruit applicants with a particular mindset. Its messaging is appealing to people who “want to get rid of foreigners” and “bust some heads,” Lapan said.

"I think ICE is headed in the wrong direction in that they're attracting the wrong type of individual to be involved in a very serious mission that they have," he said. ICE is slated to receive $30 billion by 2029 to fund its deportation efforts."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/ice-recruiting-9.7058294
 
  • #355
there is an issue now whether DHS believes it is legal for protesters to carry firearms. no allowable MSM source right now... First Amendment or Second Amendment.

DHS tried to take two people to court in Chicago last year, for having loaded guns at a protest.

A federal grand jury issued a 'no bill', refusing to indict the two people.


During a similar immigration operation in Chicago last year, two people who lawfully possessed loaded firearms at a protest were arrested and charged under a federal statute that makes it a felony to assault or impede a federal agent.

That argument quickly failed when a federal grand jury took the rare step of issuing a "no bill" in that case, which meant they declined to issue indictments.


 
  • #356
"don't be here illegally" - Alex Pretti was an American citizen.

"don't attack ICE officers" - he didn't. He went to the aid of a women who had been pushed to the ground by an ICE officer and was pepper sprayed in the face for his trouble.

"obey federal and state laws" - and what law was Alex Pretti breaking, exactly?
Ignore Hegseth. He's probably drunk.
 
  • #357
I think that one of the most disturbing parts of the videos is that, after he was shot several times, ICE agents start playing with the body - rifling through his pockets, shoving him around, looking like pick pockets.
 
  • #358
  • #359
I think that one of the most disturbing parts of the videos is that, after he was shot several times, ICE agents start playing with the body - rifling through his pockets, shoving him around, looking like pick pockets.
Very likely what they were doing. Recently it came out that ICE stole a teenager’s phone after detaining him and his father because the teen recorded them abusing him and his father.

Link to that story: ICE Reportedly Stole a 10th Grader’s Phone, Then Seemingly Sold It for Cash
 
  • #360
Minneapolis shooting: parents of Alex Pretti say Trump officials are telling ‘sickening lies’

Two witnesses to the killing have said in sworn testimony that the intensive care nurse was not brandishing a weapon when he approached federal agents in Minneapolis on Saturday.

One witness, who filmed the shooting from right behind Pretti, said federal agents tackled him after he came to help someone whom they had pushed to the ground.

Footage from the scene supports the assertion that Pretti is holding a phone, not a gun, when he was tackled and shot.

 

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