MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

  • #541
Indeed. There are what appears to be confrontations between Pretti and and more than one ICE agent, and more than one ICE agent interacts with Pretti. Pretti appears to place himself close to ICE agents on at least two separate occasions. There is physical contact on two occasions. He is described as an "observer" with a camera.

What were the ICE agents doing there? ICE agents were not operating independently. Someone hired them to go there and do that job. That is where the problem lies, not with the individual agents. The protests should be with the person making the decisions, not the person carrying them out ... in my opinion.
I can't imagine a scenario where I would think it wise to holster my Glock 19, strap an extra magazine or 2 on my belt, have foreknowledge of the time and location of Federal agent activity for a given day, arrive on scene, and insert myself into the situation such that I find myself face to face with armed Federal agents.
 
  • #542
Yes. We see two instances with Pretti interacting with federal officers. In both instances there is physical contact. Pretti is tackled to the ground after he places himself between an officer and the woman in the white coat (see screenshot). Officers discover that he has a gun, and from that point on the officers don't seem to know what to do, so they start shooting.

There are so many problems. The federal officers are unprofessional and unable to handle civilian altercations. The federal government immediately presented a false narrative about the events.

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This is actually what happened.

Pepper spray, dragging Alex away from helping the woman up after she was shoved down by an agent, agent pulls a gun while others are holding Alex down.

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  • #543
I can't imagine a scenario where I would think it wise to holster my Glock 19, strap an extra magazine or 2 on my belt, have foreknowledge of the time and location of Federal agent activity for a given day, arrive on scene, and insert myself into the situation such that I find myself face to face with armed Federal agents.
Again, the federal agents did not know he had a gun as he never touched it. He never pushed the agents, he never hit them. He never threatened them or had any violent behavior. Ever.
 
  • #544
14m ago
Edward Helmore

Minnesota governor Tim Walz has appealed to Donald Trump to withdraw federal agents from Minnesota, a day after US border patrol officers shot and killed Alex Pretti.

“What’s the plan, Donald Trump?” Walz asked at a news conference on Sunday. “What do we need to do to get these federal agents out of our state?

“President Trump, you can end this today. Pull these folks back; do humane, focused, effective immigration control – you’ve got the support of all of us to do that,” Walz said. “Please show some decency. Pull these folks out”.

Walz offered an impassioned plea to the US public, many of whom have been caught between supporting immigration control and opposing actions of its enforcement under the Trump administration in the interior.

Walz said that even if the public once sided with ICE operations, the time had come to oppose them. “Which side do you want to be on?” he asked.

The full report is here:
Tim Walz urges Trump to remove agents from Minnesota: ‘You can end this’

 
  • #545
I'm just listening to this (haven't finished) but Bovino starts by talking about 'choices'. He says that it's a 'choice' to use terms like kidnapping. He says that it's a choice to listen to other government officials, journalists and community leaders. And there are consequences and implications for listening to those people. (What??)

Really? Aren't we free to listen to all people speaking so we can come up with an informed decision? His comments come across to me (my opinion) as a threat and that we are only to listen to the federal government.

He also lumps all law enforcement in the same bucket saying that people who speak out against ICE/CBP are against all law enforcement. Clearly that's not true. MPD doesn't even support ICE/CBP. The locals don't have a problem with the police. They have a problem with some of the feds. (Even FBI are being stunted in what they can do.)

All my interpretation only.
 
  • #546

Minnesota prisons say that federal agents are giving 'inaccurate information' about man they were seeking​

BREAKING

The Minnesota Department of Corrections (DOC) has rebutted some of the claims made by Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino and other federal officials when Alex Pretti was shot.

Bovino has said that immigration enforcement agents were seeking Jose Huerta Chuma during their "targeted" operation, and that Chuma's criminal history includes domestic assault, intentional infliction of bodily harm and disorderly conduct.

The DOC in a statement says federal statements "have repeatedly included inaccurate information about Minnesota custody and criminal records", prompting them to review available records to determine whether Chuma had any connection to Minnesota state prison custody.

Per the statement, the Minnesota DOC says:

  • The individual identified by federal officials has never been in Minnesota DOC custody
  • DOC and court records show no felony commitments associated with this
  • Public Minnesota court records reflect only misdemeanor-level traffic offenses from more than a decade ago
  • The individual is not currently under DOC supervision.
The DOC adds that their records also indicate the Huerta was previously held in federal immigration custody in a local Minnesota jail in 2018, noting that this was during President Trump’s first administration.

"Any decisions regarding release from federal custody at that time would have been made by federal authorities. DOC has no information explaining why this individual was released," the statement says.

The DOC also pushed back on allegations that it does not cooperate with ICE to facilitate custody transfers for individuals subject to federal detainers.

"The inaccurate assertions of these high-level ICE officials are untrue, reckless, and contrary to longstanding practice," the DOC says.

Somebody is lying.

jmo
 
  • #547
Why doesn't he know how many shots his agents fired? Or does he just not want to admit that 10 or 11 shots were fired into a defenseless man laying on the ground?


Bovino added that they still don’t know how many shots were fired ....

I'm pretty sure the MPD would have had that figured out long ago. Perhaps they could assist? No? Why not?
My opinion is that the feds don't want a real investigation and they want to be free to do what they want even if it doesn't fit the law.
 
  • #548

Watch: Analysing the Minneapolis shooting frame by frame​


Bystander video footage has captured the moments before 37-year-old Minneapolis man Alex Pretti was killed by federal immigration officers.

BBC Verify has analysed footage of the shooting from several angles, piecing together a detailed picture of what happened.

Ros Atkins reports below.

Video at link.

 
  • #549
Indeed. There are what appears to be confrontations between Pretti and and more than one ICE agent, and more than one ICE agent interacts with Pretti. Pretti appears to place himself close to ICE agents on at least two separate occasions. There is physical contact on two occasions. He is described as an "observer" with a camera.

What were the ICE agents doing there? ICE agents were not operating independently. Someone hired them to go there and do that job. That is where the problem lies, not with the individual agents. The protests should be with the person making the decisions, not the person carrying them out ... in my opinion.
Respectfully, I don’t believe there is any means at this point to indicate with any certainty: “That is where the problem lies, not with the individual agents.’

Emphasis added by me.

IMO no one is above being considered as having been a factor that contributed to this individual’s death. And I hope that both MN officials and federal officials fully investigate any and all. And completely and without pre-judgement or bias. MOO
 
  • #550
Please note: analyzing the events that led up to the shooting does not equate with believing that the shooting was justified.

It appears that Pretti had a conversation with the ICE officers earlier, and then he was in the middle of an ICE officer shoving the woman in the white coat.
That is kinda weird, otto...imo
 
  • #551
3m ago
A growing number of Republicans are pressing for a deeper investigation into federal immigration tactics in Minnesota after the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti – a sign that the Trump administration’s accounting of events may face bipartisan scrutiny.

The Republican chairman of the House homeland security committee, Andrew Garbarino, has sought testimony from leaders at ICE, Customs and Border Protection and US Citizenship and Immigration Services, saying “my top priority remains keeping Americans safe”, the Associated Press is reporting.

 
  • #552
  • #553
Indeed. There are what appears to be confrontations between Pretti and and more than one ICE agent, and more than one ICE agent interacts with Pretti. Pretti appears to place himself close to ICE agents on at least two separate occasions. There is physical contact on two occasions. He is described as an "observer" with a camera.

What were the ICE agents doing there? ICE agents were not operating independently. Someone hired them to go there and do that job. That is where the problem lies, not with the individual agents. The protests should be with the person making the decisions, not the person carrying them out ... in my opinion.
Just want to point out that these weren't ICE agents. They were Border Control agents. Not that it matters that much as now they are all following the same 'agenda' ..... i.e. all potential immigrants (largely based on skin color) are likely criminals and therefore should be detained (grabbed) without any warrant or evidence. Same playbook in my measly opinion.

There have been many documented cases where people were detained and then let go as there was no evidence they broke the law. (One recent example is the elderly Hmong gentleman who was taken out of his home in the dead of winter in his underwear and just a blanket over his shoulders. He was later released. Why did they treat him like that??)
 
  • #554
I'm just listening to this (haven't finished) but Bovino starts by talking about 'choices'. He says that it's a 'choice' to use terms like kidnapping. He says that it's a choice to listen to other government officials, journalists and community leaders. And there are consequences and implications for listening to those people. (What??)

Really? Aren't we free to listen to all people speaking so we can come up with an informed decision? His comments come across to me (my opinion) as a threat and that we are only to listen to the federal government.

He also lumps all law enforcement in the same bucket saying that people who speak out against ICE/CBP are against all law enforcement. Clearly that's not true. MPD doesn't even support ICE/CBP. The locals don't have a problem with the police. They have a problem with some of the feds. (Even FBI are being stunted in what they can do.)

All my interpretation only.
Wow, that is disturbing.

But he is perversely half right.

It is a choice to use the words we feel describe what we see.

And, he is wrong when he implies that exercising that right is interfering with LE.

Nobody interfered with his agents. They took their eye off their suspect.

The man they were trying to arrest, that Bovino is soooo distressed is still at large, was trapped in a locked donut shop. All agents had to do was watch the exits of the place while going to court to get a warrant.

How did he get away? It was the behavior of Bovino's incompetent agents that caused him to get away. They got distracted by a few cameras.


MOO
 
  • #555
There have been many documented cases where people were detained and then let go as there was no evidence they broke the law. (One recent example is the elderly Hmong gentleman who was taken out of his home in the dead of winter in his underwear and just a blanket over his shoulders. He was later released. Why did they treat him like that??)

The brutality is supposed to be intimidating. But, instead, courageous people (like Alex) are standing up for the rights of the brutalised.

imo
 
  • #556
“President Trump, you can end this today. Pull these folks back; do humane, focused, effective immigration control – you’ve got the support of all of us to do that,” Walz said.
<SBM>

Pretty disingenuous, to say the least.

IMO.

BBM
 
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  • #557
Well, following the same logic, if the problem doesn’t lie with the individual agents, as you stated, then why are these individual agents executing American citizens? And they’re not even newer agents. Jonathan Ross and the most recent agent had ten and seven years experience, IIRC. MOO
And then appearing to "count the bullet holes" according to the physician!
 
  • #558

What we know​


Federal officials and Minnesota state and city officials continue to clash over what happened in the scuffle that led to the fatal shooting of intensive care nurse Alex Pretti on Saturday. Here's what we learned today:

  • On Sunday, officials again offered duelling narratives about Pretti's actions and handgun during simultaneous media conferences
  • Lawmakers continue to be divided over the shooting, as well as Pretti's 2nd Amendment right to bear arms. US Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Pretti was shot because he was "brandishing" a gun. Local authorities say the gun was legally registered, he was not brandishing it, and he was shot after the gun was removed.
  • The federal agents involved in the shooting are still working but have been moved out of Minneapolis for their safety, according Border Patrol Commander Greg Bovino. He declines to directly comment on what transpired in videos of the shooting
  • Minnesota Governor Tim Walz repeated his call to US President Donald Trump to pull "3,000 untrained agents" from the state. He called it "an inflection point" and scolded federal leadership for "smearing" Pretti
  • Trump again accused Minnesota officials of being involved in "a criminal cover up" stemming from a financial fraud investigation in the state, without presenting evidence. White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt has said "Walz wants chaos"
  • Tributes for Pretti, along with demonstrations and protests, have resumed in Minneapolis. Our reporters there say the protests have been peaceful despite earlier clashes
  • More than 60 Minnesota-based companies, including Target, Best Buy and 3M, have called for "de-escalation"
 
  • #559
Pretty disingenuous, to say the least.

IMO.

BBM

The American people wanted tighter immigration control. They did not want brutality.

The opinion polls have gone from supporting immigration control, to not supporting the tactics of ICE. It is a tactical issue.

imo

(opinion poll link already provided)
 
  • #560
I can't imagine a scenario where I would think it wise to holster my Glock 19, strap an extra magazine or 2 on my belt, have foreknowledge of the time and location of Federal agent activity for a given day, arrive on scene, and insert myself into the situation such that I find myself face to face with armed Federal agents.
I think there is so much fear in US citizens now that this honestly doesn't surprise me. He was legally allowed to carry it. Doesn't mean he had an intention to use it but maybe he was feeling unsafe? I don't think that is surprising giving what we are seeing on the streets.

I also think we are seeing a clash of belief systems/ideology for some people - the right to carry and the right to be armed, freedoms as US citizens, etc. Yet these very rights are being used by the government/ICE to justify shooting a protester and other IMO heavy handed tactics from clearly ill-trained groups of masked and armed individuals in US communities.

This must be really hard for those who have been supporting Trump to reconcile. 2 possibly strongly held beliefs are in contradiction. This is the time when you may see more people start to question and reflect on what is most important to them.

This isn't a war happening against another country, this is US citizens right in the middle of it. Similar to what we see in other countries who are at war. Civilians caught up in what the government is implementing, regardless of whether you support ICE or not.
 

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