MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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Vermont Governor Phil Scott joined a growing number of GOP lawmakers outraged by the shooting of Pretti.

'At best, these federal immigration operations are a complete failure of coordination of acceptable public safety and law enforcement practices, training, and leadership,' the Republican wrote on X.

'At worst, it's a deliberate federal intimidation and incitement of American citizens that's resulting in the murder of Americans. Again, enough is enough.'

Senator Pete Ricketts, a close ally of the President, called for a 'prioritized, transparent investigation.'

'My support for funding ICE remains the same,' the Nebraska Republican, who is up for reelection, said online. 'But we must also maintain our core values as a nation, including the right to protest and assemble.

IMO it seems the polling numbers/ protesting/mounting R backlash etc have convinced T to do an about face in Minnesota but of course claim victory. I think too little too late - the damage has been done on an domestic and international stage.
 
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One U.S. government official, who requested anonymity to speak candidly, said top DHS officials were mishandling the public messaging around the deadly incident, making statements that were not supported by concrete evidence, before any investigative findings came out.

"It's unclear who at DHS thought it would be a good idea to make such claims before any facts were established, but it was a terrible miscalculation," the U.S. official said.
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"When we gaslight and contradict what the public can plainly see with their own eyes, we lose all credibility and it's going to damage our reputation for generations," the DHS official said, also requesting anonymity because this official is not authorized to talk to the press.
"A terrible miscalculation": Officials' response to fatal Minneapolis shooting causes anger among some at DHS
 
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"Section 3056(d) of Title 18 prohibits knowingly and willfully obstructing, resisting, or interfering with a Federal law enforcement agent who is engaged in protective functions. It is a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 111 forcibly to assault, resist, oppose, impede, intimidate, or interfere with Federal law enforcement officers, including Secret Service agents, in the performance of their duties.

How did Alex exactly interfere with the agents performing their duties? By helping a woman who was not the subject of their investigation, get up? And even if he was interfering, impeding or whatever, in normal, democratic countries such petson gets arrested and tried, not executed on the street.

MOO 🐄
 
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The means of communication are irrelevant; what matters is that there was a coordinated effort to interfere with a law enforcement operation. imo
interfere, or document what happens and warn their community? both documenting and warning are not only allowed but also good things to do, when you see the cruelty of what happened and how the version that “they” tell is a clear lie when you see what’s been filmed.

if no one can document anymore, they can be as cruel as they want and make up as many lies as they want without any evidence.
 
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Leavitt is asked how many shots were fired, how many guns were discharged, and whether Alex Pretti’s gun went off or only the federal agents’ guns.

She says the investigation is ongoing and includes interviews with the agents involved.

 
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How did Alex exactly interfere with the agents performing their duties? By helping a woman who was not the subject of their investigation, get up? And even if he was interfering, impeding or whatever, in normal, democratic countries such petson gets arrested and tried, not executed on the street.

MOO 🐄
The agents surrounded the murder victim. They were in the position to back off but they impeded Alex Pretti's ability to leave. They restricted Alex' movements and rendered him helpless by pepper-spraying, pinning, and hitting him. How in the world was he impeding them while splayed on the ground covered by a pile of men?

Yet, the agents always had freedom of movement and if they had self-discipline (and/or training), they could've at any moment, backed off. They had the ability to walk away. But they didn't.

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if no one can document anymore, they can be as cruel as they want and make up as many lies as they want without any evidence.
And the First Amendmendment is worthless!
 
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Enforcing the law is a basic responsibility of government. Law enforcement should be able to do its job without outside interference, and protesters shouldn’t be allowed to dictate whether or not the law is enforced. imo

Is there a point at which protesters should reconsider their approach?

Protesters filming/recording, yelling, whistling, honking, chanting, holding signs that voice disapproval of or even mock or insult ICE agents/Trump/Republicans/whoever should not bother ICE agents to the point that they cannot do their job or allow it to "personally" infuriate them to the point of violence.

Their training must include ways to handle things like this, but even more so, imo, they must start considering potential ICE applicants' personalities and mental stability and emotional maturity in the hiring process, and weed out those with the propensity for violence as a reaction to such annoyances.

Because all this is lawful conduct and some are Constitutionally protected rights of Americans. It should not "annoy" them or interfere to the point that they stop doing their job and turn on the protesters.

Yes, it CAN go past the point of lawful conduct, but if it does, there are laws already in place to handle that. If a protester assaults or I believe even touches an agent, then they've broken a law and should be arrested. (Not shot.)

There are probably a lot of things a protester can do that WOULD keep agents from doing their job, but if that happens, they've already made laws against it and given agents legal ways of dealing with it, like arresting them, for example.

Then they take them to jail or write a citation, lay charges, take them to court, probably accept a plea but possibly go to trial, find them guilty and sentence them or acquit them... The person might be harmed because they might end up with a felony record, but they should never end up dead.

In no possible scenario, should a protester lose his or her life over any possible action they make as a protester. Unless of course, they kill an agent, but that's not happening. BUT if it did, there are proscribed ways to handle that too, and none of them include a street execution or allow the agents to be judge, jury and executioner on the spot.

My point is that they have to change their hiring practices to try to weed out those with violent tendencies or immature reactions (I know it'll never be 100%, but something more than what they do now at least!), and make a part of their training to be how to handle protesters without reacting in illegal, violent ways. And imo, eliminate any bonus system that rewards them per arrest or whatever it is I've heard they do now.

The lawful actions of a protester should not keep them from doing their job. If someone does something that understandably keeps them from doing their job, then I'm sure that something is NOT lawful, and I'd expect the agents to deal with that in a LAWFUL manner, according to the law! (And some humaneness, compassion, and morality thrown in would be nice too.)
 
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The means of communication are irrelevant; what matters is that there was a coordinated effort to interfere with a law enforcement operation. imo
Protesting a hostile takeover "is not interfering with a LE operation".
 
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And the First Amendmendment is worthless!
Plus, the agents had no idea if the man they killed was on Signal. It has no bearing on the killing of Alex Pretti other than to lamely attempt to smear the victim and others who care about what is happening and who feel called to witness and document.

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I can't imagine a scenario where I would think it wise to holster my Glock 19, strap an extra magazine or 2 on my belt, have foreknowledge of the time and location of Federal agent activity for a given day, arrive on scene, and insert myself into the situation such that I find myself face to face with armed Federal agents.
He had a concealed carry permit. It's very likely he holsters his gun every day as he gets dressed in the morning and carries it all the time on his person. I don't know enough about guns to know if carrying the mags are "normal" or not.

In any case, whether it's normal to you or not, it is legal for him. And also a right he has as an American by the Constitution (as long as he has the permit/training/whatever his state requires, and he did.) And as we know, the rights we have that are protected by the Constitution are "special", and Americans go to great lengths to ensure that those are not impeded.
 
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I can't imagine a scenario where I would think it wise to holster my Glock 19, strap an extra magazine or 2 on my belt, have foreknowledge of the time and location of Federal agent activity for a given day, arrive on scene, and insert myself into the situation such that I find myself face to face with armed Federal agents.
And if you did then ... execution
 
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I don't think it's enough to arrest the shooters. I think this has to go up the chain to hold accountable those who set the rules that allowed this to happen.

This isn't a one-off. This is a pattern. Federal officers are ill equipped to respond to protesters and have resorted to shooting civilians. They wouldn't do that unless they believed that there would be no consequences. Who gave them the understanding that they could shoot civilians and the federal government would immediately falsify facts? That's who needs to be arrested.
It seems like those committing these atrocious acts of sheer, unjustifiable violence view civilians as expendable and let's face it, if there are no consequences then what message is that sending? Accountability can’t stop at symbolic arrests of individual officers, if and when that happens, it has to include transparent investigations, policy review, and real consequences for the decision-makers whose choices put civilians at risk and were then justified after the fact. I still feel so sick over Trumps comments. I feel so deeply sad for Alex and his loved ones. It is despicable. jmo.
 
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interfere, or document what happens and warn their community? both documenting and warning are not only allowed but also good things to do, when you see the cruelty of what happened and how the version that “they” tell is a clear lie when you see what’s been filmed.

if no one can document anymore, they can be as cruel as they want and make up as many lies as they want without any evidence.
Exactly. I mean look at what has been going on recently and it's all been documented... filmed from different angles, and yet you have government officials claiming the complete opposite of what is in front of our very eyes. It's very scary. Jmo.
 
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He had a concealed carry permit. It's very likely he holsters his gun every day as he gets dressed in the morning and carries it all the time on his person. I don't know enough about guns to know if carrying the mags are "normal" or not.

In any case, whether it's normal to you or not, it is legal for him. And also a right he has as an American by the Constitution (as long as he has the permit/training/whatever his state requires, and he did.) And as we know, the rights we have that are protected by the Constitution are "special", and Americans go to great lengths to ensure that those are not impeded.
Indeed!

People who have carry permits tend to carry all of the time, apart from where it isn't legal such as bars, airports and suchlike.

Even if he doesn't carry every day, that changes nothing; he was constitutionally entitled to and did so on that day. A person has a constitutional right to free speech and that right is not called into question because they have never communicated a single thing in their life.

There is no "right" to question a person's motives for exercising their constitutionally protected rights.
 
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Body camera footage of Pretti shooting?​


Leavitt is asked if there is body camera footage of the shooting of Alex Pretti by a federal agent, and whether it will be made public.

She says she will not commit to that at this time because she has not heard the president's thoughts on that.

 
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"When we gaslight and contradict what the public can plainly see with their own eyes, we lose all credibility and it's going to damage our reputation for generations," the DHS official said, also requesting anonymity because this official is not authorized to talk to the press.

 
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Minnesota AG voices concern video evidence not being preserved in Pretti investigation​

Carl Nasman
Reporting from Minneapolis
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Media caption, Minnesota Attorney General tells the BBC he is concerned on shooting evidence preservation

I caught up with Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota, during a courtroom break in Minneapolis. He along other state and local officials are arguing two crucial legal cases today.

The first asks a federal judge to temporarily halt the surge of federal immigration officers in the city. The second hearing revolves around a previous ruling ordering the Trump Administration to preserve evidence related to the shooting of Alex Pretti.

Ellison told me he is concerned that footage from cameras worn by immigration agents involved in the shooting of Alex Pretti – or from Pretti’s smartphone - might not be preserved.

“I am so concerned that the video is not being preserved that I sought an order from a district court just a couple of nights ago. Look – this is the third shooting in the last two weeks and the second death. And in the two preceding ones, where we trusted the federal government to act responsibly, they didn’t. So we had to go to a court and get a court order. What other choice did I have? That’s how concerned I am. This is unprecedented.”

 

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