MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

[Amonet]

In all caps no less. A president of the United States said this and there was barely a reaction to it. That's where we are as a country.

Yes, I was wondering about reaction as I've never heard of a US president using that kind of language. Trump isn't a president like any who have gone before him in my lifetime.

 

[waldojabba]

That is indeed what should happen. But we all know it won't.

It really does appear that these people just cannot get out of their own way imo.
They are trying to back pedal to change the optics bc of the bad polling - not bc thy have any shame how they have handled things.
Boy do we have a long way to go to get honesty and decency back in play - IMO

 

[Ruminations]

One of the things that unsettles me the most is how often people fall back on legality as if it settles the question. “Agents are just enforcing the law,” and “They shouldn’t have intervened.” Those phrases scare me.

Slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal. Japanese internment was legal. The Nuremberg Laws were legal. Law does not protect morality. It reflects power.

What history judges is not whether something was legal, but whether people were willing to treat other human beings as expendable because the system told them it was acceptable.

You are 100% correct that legal does not always make something right.

But- in these two killings it is not clear to me that the wrong actions the federal agents took were indeed taken legally.

MOO

 

[Charlot123]

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"DHS added that the suspect had two magazines on him, no identification, " You have to carry ID and the permit under MRS 624.714

This is clutching at straws.

The ICE searched him after they killed him.

If we look at the videos, he gave the ICE no reason to kill him whatsoever.

 

[keek]

Yes, I was wondering about reaction as I've never heard of a US president using that kind of language. Trump isn't a president like any who have gone before him in my lifetime.

You sure said it!! NEVER.

 

[Yellowbelly]

What J6 protesters had firearms?

Depending on how you want to define it, up to 13 of them.

A Running List of Gun Arrests Tied to the U.S. Capitol Attack

Civilians didn't open fire on January 6, but that doesn’t mean the Trump supporters who congregated at the Capitol weren’t armed.

www.thetrace.org

 

[Charlot123]

Question to everyone;

I read about Bovino - apparently, he held no official position of the head of border patrol.

He was “”commander at large" of the Border Patrol, a rank with no statutory basis”, so not officially heading anything, mostly doing a dirty job.

How can a person without an official position be deployed to Minnesota? In what capacity did he give orders?

So unless we know that the agents in Minneapolis were indeed, “border patrol”, removed from their positions to protect the border and brought to Minneapolis to deal with US citizens, I pause at calling them “border patrol”. We don’t know who they are. We don’t know where they worked before, so, ICE.

As long as their former boss had no statutory basis and yet was commanding the operation in Minnesota, where does it legally put the ICE/Border patrol group operating in Minnesota?

They took orders from a guy without official position, who inflated his personality by movies and all, but whose job had no name.

Did we have any such precedents?

 

[LibraStarr]

You are 100% correct that legal does not always make something right.

But- in these two killings it is not clear to me that the wrong actions the federal agents took were indeed taken legally.

I also believe they were both unjustified homicides and that arrests should've already happened.

I was responding to the many comments asserting that what happened was both legal and therefore justified. Even if someone believes these actions were lawful, legality alone has never been a reliable measure of what is right. History shows that over and over again.

 

[waldojabba]

Whatever it is they should have been doing when the person they were chasing got away, I am 100% sure it wasnt passing the time by assaulting and executing citizens!

I read somewhere on here that the fugitive they were pursuing went in to the donut shop across from where Alex was murdered.
The donut shop would not let ICE in. Why didn't they just stake out the entrance and exit to the donut shop and wait for the dangerous dude?
Too logical ?
JMO

 

[Emerald1328]

I see federal agents so determined to harass citizens that they did so while letting the person of interest to their so-called targeted enforcement get away.

Incompetence. Lethal incompetence.

MOO

I would love to know if they ever did end up finding their target.

 

[Moonstrawbs]

Minneapolis latest: Trump says he'll do 'whatever is appropriate' in city after intense backlash

Donald Trump is speaking at a rally tonight as he tries to shift focus from his deadly immigration crackdown. A judge in Minnesota, where agents have killed two citizens in the past three weeks, has ordered the ICE chief to court over the administration's handling of detained immigrants.

news.sky.com

Trump repeats claim Alex Pretti should not have been carrying a gun​

Even though Trump came to Iowa to try and shift focus away from the fallout in Minneapolis, he's asked several times about it.

Facing questions on a stop off before the rally in Des Moines, the US president repeated his claim that Alex Pretti should not have carried a gun.

He added:

"Certainly, he shouldn't have been carrying a gun. But all of us-hey, look, bottom line, everybody in this room, we view that as a very unfortunate incident. Everyone, unless you're a stupid person."

I'm sorry, what now? Alex was legally permitted to carry a handgun under Minnesota Law, so Trump saying he shouldn't have been carrying a gun but also insisting on Second Amendment rights is LUDICROUS. So everyone has the right to carry, but you shouldn't carry when law enforcement show up, how confusing and contradicting and an absolute grasp in trying to justify incompetence by the officers involved. jmo.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I read somewhere on here that the fugitive they were pursuing went in to the donut shop across from where Alex was murdered.
The donut shop would not let ICE in. Why didn't they just stake out the entrance and exit to the donut shop and wait for the dangerous dude?
Too logical ?
JMO

Childish rage informs a lot of ICE actions such as pushing folks, threatening them, pepper spraying them, etc. JMO

 

[LibraStarr]

I would love to know if they ever did end up finding their target.

I am not sure if they found him but here is what the MN DOC had to say about it:

"DOC then shifted its attention to the press conference held by Bovino Saturday afternoon. According to DOC, Bovino asserted the operation was targeting an individual named Jose Huerta-Chuma, characterizing him as having a “significant criminal history.”

Records were reportedly reviewed by DOC to determine whether Huerta-Chuma had any connection to Minnesota state prison custody.

The following is said to have been based on DOC records and Minnesota court data:

• The individual identified by federal officials has never been in Minnesota DOC custody.
• DOC and court records show no felony commitments associated with this
• Public Minnesota court records reflect only misdemeanor-level traffic offenses from more than a decade ago.
• The individual is not currently under DOC supervision.

DOC then said its records indicated that an individual with that name was previously held in federal immigration custody in a local Minnesota jail in 2018, notably during President Donald Trump’s first term in office. Decisions regarding release from federal custody at that time, DOC notes, would have been made by federal authorities."

Minnesota Department of Corrections releases statement on Minneapolis shooting, federal claims

The Minnesota Department of Corrections (DOC) has released its statement regarding the fatal Minneapolis shooting on Saturday, and the claims made by U.S. Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino.

www.kttc.com

 

[JennieM]

If the administration had been appalled by Good’s killing and called ICE to account back on 7 January, instead of Trump hailing them as “great patriots” who can apparently do as they like, Pretti would be alive today.

As Trump starts shifting and changing his rhetoric because of the last few days’ backlash, maybe some (who now don’t) will eventually allow themselves to start viewing Pretti’s murder as unjustifiable and unacceptable.

 

[waldojabba]

ICE are also emboldened by being able to cover their faces. Nothing to see here gentleman, move along.

The confusing thing to me is about the face covers. ICE is not new profession/dept - around for a long while - but wearing the face covers is new. What gives?

Some say its for their own protection - so they don't get "doxxed" - I don't get that either.
All Law enforcement has a job -I don't know any other division that wears the neck gaiters over their faces.

I've yet to hear an explanation that makes sense to me.

I think all LE should wear ID and have no face coverings. They are supposed to the ones to keep us safe - we should know who they are. Unless of course undercover.

JMO

 

[Charlot123]

but @Sundog do you really see good officers, just following the law here? do you think people are protesting and documenting violence, just to “interfere” for fun? do you know that not everyone who ICE has targeted is an illegal immigrant or a criminal? do you not see anything worrying about their methods? do you not see the cruelty? i find it hard to understand your point of view, and why you are finding ways to shift the blame to the innocent victim and others like him

God! Yesterday on “Minneapolis” on *a very big site with tons of echochambers*
they posted a video of allegedly an ICE agent in Minnesota

Mooning the protesters in the evening, from the hotel upper window.

I mean, this is total moral decay. We are not talking about them poorly trained. We are talking about the state of their morale.

Keep safe, Minnesotans, and talk quietly with them, because untrained group with former (as we found out) commander of no official status and in such a bad moral state is very unpredictable. Surely they are not Nazi, Nazi Germany was very organized and disciplined, for one, but schoolkids pretending to be Nazi might be more dangerous.

ETA: here is the description of the episode.

Man Moons Anti-ICE Protesters From Hotel Window, on Video

Anti-ICE protesters in Minnesota became unwilling astronomers Monday night ... taking in the full moon when a man dropped his pants and slapped his butt cheeks up against a hotel window.

www.tmz.com

It was the same hotel where Bovino with his entourage was staying. Maybe they pulled the video off the site as it is definitely “not safe for work”.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I am not sure if they found him but here is what the MN DOC had to say about it:

"DOC then shifted its attention to the press conference held by Bovino Saturday afternoon. According to DOC, Bovino asserted the operation was targeting an individual named Jose Huerta-Chuma, characterizing him as having a “significant criminal history.”

Records were reportedly reviewed by DOC to determine whether Huerta-Chuma had any connection to Minnesota state prison custody.

The following is said to have been based on DOC records and Minnesota court data:

• The individual identified by federal officials has never been in Minnesota DOC custody.
• DOC and court records show no felony commitments associated with this
• Public Minnesota court records reflect only misdemeanor-level traffic offenses from more than a decade ago.
• The individual is not currently under DOC supervision.

DOC then said its records indicated that an individual with that name was previously held in federal immigration custody in a local Minnesota jail in 2018, notably during President Donald Trump’s first term in office. Decisions regarding release from federal custody at that time, DOC notes, would have been made by federal authorities."

Minnesota Department of Corrections releases statement on Minneapolis shooting, federal claims

The Minnesota Department of Corrections (DOC) has released its statement regarding the fatal Minneapolis shooting on Saturday, and the claims made by U.S. Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino.

www.kttc.com

Wow. They just can't help themselves.

 

[waldojabba]

As a real flesh and blood protestor, I can assure you we are not being paid. We are taking time out of our day and away from our family to stand up for the rights of all, including those who wish us harm.

Thank you from New England

 

[CrimeDawg123]

God! Yesterday on “Minnesota” on *a very big site with tons of echochambers*
they posted a video of ICE agent in Minnesota

Mooning the protesters in the evening, from the hotel upper window.

I mean, this is total moral decay. We are not talking about them poorly trained. We are talking about the state of their morale.

Keep safe, Minnesotans, and talk quietly with them, because untrained group with former (as we found out) commander of no official status and in with such a moral state is unpredictable,

They've exhibited nothing but juvenile behavior - like school yard punks.

 

[Amonet]

Yes. Shooting unarmed civilians, though, is not their job.




Maybe not bad, but willing to ignore evil.

MOO

They might be in shock too and just trying to rationalise it all the best they can. I don't think they're all seeing "evil" I think seeing a very disturbing event. Trying to rationalise it without seeing it as indicative of "evil" does not make them bad people.

What happened to Mr Pretti is not a rational thing. But people need clarity in their world, so they try to rationalise and explain things.

I am struggling with it. I don't know how to categorise it in my mind.

It could either be an event that leads to more divisions and hatred among regular people, or people can choose to see it as an isolated incident and try to heal. I am horrified by it, but I want people to eventually find healing in their hearts and communities. I am trying to be cognizant of that as I type. I think my horror over the shooting is clear, but I wouldn't want that to be interpreted by anyone as hating them for being on "the other side". I want them to know I am not putting them on the other side of anything greater than the different viewing of this one incident. It is a good thing to have different perspectives and views brought to the table.