MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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One of the things that unsettles me the most is how often people fall back on legality as if it settles the question. “Agents are just enforcing the law,” and “They shouldn’t have intervened.” Those phrases scare me.

Slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal. Japanese internment was legal. The Nuremberg Laws were legal. Law does not protect morality. It reflects power.

What history judges is not whether something was legal, but whether people were willing to treat other human beings as expendable because the system told them it was acceptable.
 
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Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey said he told Trump’s border czar, that the city “does not and will not” enforce federal immigration law and urged an end to Operation Metro Surge “as quickly as possible”.

In a statement, Frey said he was joined by police chief Brian O’Hara for a “productive” meeting with Homan.

“I reiterated that my main ask is for Operation Metro Surge to come to an end as quickly as possible,” Frey said.

He continued: “I shared with Mr. Homan the serious negative impacts this operation has had on Minneapolis and surrounding communities, as well as the strain it has placed on our local police officers.

“I also made it clear that Minneapolis does not and will not enforce federal immigration laws, and that we will remain focused on keeping our neighbors and streets safe.”

Trump administration officials have repeatedly blamed so-called “sanctuary” laws for exacerbating tensions on the ground. Minneapolis, along with Hennepin County, restricts coordination between local law enforcement and federal immigration agents.

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed on Monday, the state’s governor, Tim Walz forcefully rebutted the administration’s claim that state prisons simply release the “worst of the worst” onto the streets.

“In reality, the Minnesota Department of Corrections honors all federal and local detainers by notifying Immigration and Customs Enforcement when a person committed to its custody isn’t a US citizen,” Walz wrote. “There is not a single documented case of the department’s releasing someone from state prison without offering to ensure a smooth transfer of custody.”

The Minnesota Department of Corrections has issued a statement, based on facts, that Minnesota turns over convicted criminals to Homeland Security/ICE...and Homeland Security claims those people as their own "arrests" while lying that MN is not cooperating.

Link to source: News Releases / Department of Corrections
 
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I get what you are saying, but I just can't see anything in the videos available that shows Alex getting in the way of ICE. Does anyone have footage that shows this? He was present when they went to the donut shop, but at what point did he step between them and their job? And when he went to help the woman pushed down, he still wasn't getting in the way of their operation. ICE pushed her to the ground, unless I'm mistaken there wouldn't have been any further need for ICE to interact with her therefore how was Alex interfering?

What I do see is ICE overreaching time and time again to interact with protesters and citizens that they have no business doing. IMO these interactions are because the ICE agents want to push their weight around, try to command authority and create fear. Their frustrations IMO clearly stem more from just their job title.
I see federal agents so determined to harass citizens that they did so while letting the person of interest to their so-called targeted enforcement get away.

Incompetence. Lethal incompetence.

MOO
 
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In all caps no less. A president of the United States said this and there was barely a reaction to it. That's where we are as a country.
Yes, I was wondering about reaction as I've never heard of a US president using that kind of language. Trump isn't a president like any who have gone before him in my lifetime.
 
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That is indeed what should happen. But we all know it won't.
It really does appear that these people just cannot get out of their own way imo.
They are trying to back pedal to change the optics bc of the bad polling - not bc thy have any shame how they have handled things.
Boy do we have a long way to go to get honesty and decency back in play - IMO
 
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One of the things that unsettles me the most is how often people fall back on legality as if it settles the question. “Agents are just enforcing the law,” and “They shouldn’t have intervened.” Those phrases scare me.

Slavery was legal. Jim Crow was legal. Japanese internment was legal. The Nuremberg Laws were legal. Law does not protect morality. It reflects power.

What history judges is not whether something was legal, but whether people were willing to treat other human beings as expendable because the system told them it was acceptable.

You are 100% correct that legal does not always make something right.

But- in these two killings it is not clear to me that the wrong actions the federal agents took were indeed taken legally.

MOO
 
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"DHS added that the suspect had two magazines on him, no identification, " You have to carry ID and the permit under MRS 624.714

This is clutching at straws.

The ICE searched him after they killed him.

If we look at the videos, he gave the ICE no reason to kill him whatsoever.
 
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Yes, I was wondering about reaction as I've never heard of a US president using that kind of language. Trump isn't a president like any who have gone before him in my lifetime.
You sure said it!! NEVER.
 
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Question to everyone;

I read about Bovino - apparently, he held no official position of the head of border patrol.

He was “”commander at large" of the Border Patrol, a rank with no statutory basis”, so not officially heading anything, mostly doing a dirty job.

How can a person without an official position be deployed to Minnesota? In what capacity did he give orders?

So unless we know that the agents in Minneapolis were indeed, “border patrol”, removed from their positions to protect the border and brought to Minneapolis to deal with US citizens, I pause at calling them “border patrol”. We don’t know who they are. We don’t know where they worked before, so, ICE.

As long as their former boss had no statutory basis and yet was commanding the operation in Minnesota, where does it legally put the ICE/Border patrol group operating in Minnesota?

They took orders from a guy without official position, who inflated his personality by movies and all, but whose job had no name.

Did we have any such precedents?
 
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You are 100% correct that legal does not always make something right.

But- in these two killings it is not clear to me that the wrong actions the federal agents took were indeed taken legally.
I also believe they were both unjustified homicides and that arrests should've already happened.

I was responding to the many comments asserting that what happened was both legal and therefore justified. Even if someone believes these actions were lawful, legality alone has never been a reliable measure of what is right. History shows that over and over again.
 
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Whatever it is they should have been doing when the person they were chasing got away, I am 100% sure it wasnt passing the time by assaulting and executing citizens!
I read somewhere on here that the fugitive they were pursuing went in to the donut shop across from where Alex was murdered.
The donut shop would not let ICE in. Why didn't they just stake out the entrance and exit to the donut shop and wait for the dangerous dude?
Too logical ?
JMO
 
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I see federal agents so determined to harass citizens that they did so while letting the person of interest to their so-called targeted enforcement get away.

Incompetence. Lethal incompetence.

MOO

I would love to know if they ever did end up finding their target.
 
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Trump repeats claim Alex Pretti should not have been carrying a gun​

Even though Trump came to Iowa to try and shift focus away from the fallout in Minneapolis, he's asked several times about it.

Facing questions on a stop off before the rally in Des Moines, the US president repeated his claim that Alex Pretti should not have carried a gun.

He added:
"Certainly, he shouldn't have been carrying a gun. But all of us-hey, look, bottom line, everybody in this room, we view that as a very unfortunate incident. Everyone, unless you're a stupid person."

I'm sorry, what now? Alex was legally permitted to carry a handgun under Minnesota Law, so Trump saying he shouldn't have been carrying a gun but also insisting on Second Amendment rights is LUDICROUS. So everyone has the right to carry, but you shouldn't carry when law enforcement show up, how confusing and contradicting and an absolute grasp in trying to justify incompetence by the officers involved. jmo.
 
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I read somewhere on here that the fugitive they were pursuing went in to the donut shop across from where Alex was murdered.
The donut shop would not let ICE in. Why didn't they just stake out the entrance and exit to the donut shop and wait for the dangerous dude?
Too logical ?
JMO
Childish rage informs a lot of ICE actions such as pushing folks, threatening them, pepper spraying them, etc. JMO
 
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I would love to know if they ever did end up finding their target.
I am not sure if they found him but here is what the MN DOC had to say about it:

"DOC then shifted its attention to the press conference held by Bovino Saturday afternoon. According to DOC, Bovino asserted the operation was targeting an individual named Jose Huerta-Chuma, characterizing him as having a “significant criminal history.”

Records were reportedly reviewed by DOC to determine whether Huerta-Chuma had any connection to Minnesota state prison custody.

The following is said to have been based on DOC records and Minnesota court data:
  • The individual identified by federal officials has never been in Minnesota DOC custody.
  • DOC and court records show no felony commitments associated with this
  • Public Minnesota court records reflect only misdemeanor-level traffic offenses from more than a decade ago.
  • The individual is not currently under DOC supervision.
DOC then said its records indicated that an individual with that name was previously held in federal immigration custody in a local Minnesota jail in 2018, notably during President Donald Trump’s first term in office. Decisions regarding release from federal custody at that time, DOC notes, would have been made by federal authorities."

 
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If the administration had been appalled by Good’s killing and called ICE to account back on 7 January, instead of Trump hailing them as “great patriots” who can apparently do as they like, Pretti would be alive today.

As Trump starts shifting and changing his rhetoric because of the last few days’ backlash, maybe some (who now don’t) will eventually allow themselves to start viewing Pretti’s murder as unjustifiable and unacceptable.
 
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ICE are also emboldened by being able to cover their faces. Nothing to see here gentleman, move along.
The confusing thing to me is about the face covers. ICE is not new profession/dept - around for a long while - but wearing the face covers is new. What gives?

Some say its for their own protection - so they don't get "doxxed" - I don't get that either.
All Law enforcement has a job -I don't know any other division that wears the neck gaiters over their faces.

I've yet to hear an explanation that makes sense to me.

I think all LE should wear ID and have no face coverings. They are supposed to the ones to keep us safe - we should know who they are. Unless of course undercover.

JMO
 
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but @Sundog do you really see good officers, just following the law here? :( do you think people are protesting and documenting violence, just to “interfere” for fun? do you know that not everyone who ICE has targeted is an illegal immigrant or a criminal? do you not see anything worrying about their methods? do you not see the cruelty? i find it hard to understand your point of view, and why you are finding ways to shift the blame to the innocent victim and others like him

God! Yesterday on “Minneapolis” on *a very big site with tons of echochambers*
they posted a video of allegedly an ICE agent in Minnesota

Mooning the protesters in the evening, from the hotel upper window.

I mean, this is total moral decay. We are not talking about them poorly trained. We are talking about the state of their morale.

Keep safe, Minnesotans, and talk quietly with them, because untrained group with former (as we found out) commander of no official status and in such a bad moral state is very unpredictable. Surely they are not Nazi, Nazi Germany was very organized and disciplined, for one, but schoolkids pretending to be Nazi might be more dangerous.

ETA: here is the description of the episode.


It was the same hotel where Bovino with his entourage was staying. Maybe they pulled the video off the site as it is definitely “not safe for work”.
 
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I am not sure if they found him but here is what the MN DOC had to say about it:

"DOC then shifted its attention to the press conference held by Bovino Saturday afternoon. According to DOC, Bovino asserted the operation was targeting an individual named Jose Huerta-Chuma, characterizing him as having a “significant criminal history.”

Records were reportedly reviewed by DOC to determine whether Huerta-Chuma had any connection to Minnesota state prison custody.

The following is said to have been based on DOC records and Minnesota court data:
  • The individual identified by federal officials has never been in Minnesota DOC custody.
  • DOC and court records show no felony commitments associated with this
  • Public Minnesota court records reflect only misdemeanor-level traffic offenses from more than a decade ago.
  • The individual is not currently under DOC supervision.
DOC then said its records indicated that an individual with that name was previously held in federal immigration custody in a local Minnesota jail in 2018, notably during President Donald Trump’s first term in office. Decisions regarding release from federal custody at that time, DOC notes, would have been made by federal authorities."

Wow. They just can't help themselves.
 

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