MN - One dead after Minneapolis shooting involving immigration agents, US media report, January 24, 2026

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Your consideration notwithstanding, they are illegal immigrants. They have entered our country illegally, i.e. they have broken the law.
Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…



“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.


ETA another example of two children being deported that were U.S Citizens:


“NBC News reports that, according to a lawyer with the National Immigration Project, the two children, ages 4 and 7, were put on their mother’s deportation flight the day after they were all detained on April 24.”

Another article to help inform you: Migrants in U.S. legally and with no criminal history caught up in Trump crackdown
 

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Your consideration notwithstanding, they are illegal immigrants. They have entered our country illegally, i.e. they have broken the law.
Given alot of these people they are detaining and deporting have been in the US for a very long time, have established lives and many are upstanding people contributing to the US economy and community, why would the government not be conducting a more stringent approach such as considering each person's situation, criminal status and time in the country?

Resources cannot be an excuse for not doing this as the government certainly pulled resources very quickly for the current ICE operations.

IMO its very dangerous to slap a label on ALL illegal immigrants, and certainly a human rights concern. Someone who has been living most of their life in the US being dragged into a vehicle by a mass of masked men (some women), often involving children and families being physically ripped apart, dumped in a country unfamiliar to them with no support and possible risk to their safety? Where is the humanity in this? And before someone says 'but they broke the law', maybe consider that life isn't black and white. Where is the compassion in saying, well you fled to the US illegally, we owe you nothing. I actually don't believe this is what the US was built on, but correct me if this assumption is wrong?

Trump seems to IMO want world domination, well what a contradiction to then consider people who are not US citizens irrelevant and undeserving of simple empathy and compassion.

I can't understand how hard some people are fighting tooth and nail to justify Alex' death and/or the behaviours of ICE and the overall government's behaviour and choices right now. Is it uncomfortable for you to change your way of thinking, is it that you have ridden the horse too far now and pride won't let you back down? When humans start accepting this type of callous behaviour against others, I can only shake my head and think IMO there is so much hope lost for the future. Let's hope the same people positioning themselves as more righteous or deserving than those being targeted (not the so called violent criminals of course), that you are never in a situation where you need to flee the US and every country shuts the doors to you.
 
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Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…



“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.

NOT at all. I don't think some want to have to pay attention to the reality going on. Suits them. These are the ones, the assaulting of people, detaining and causing physical harm to them that don't make national news. There are SO many more, there has to be going by the mentality and go ahead of the admin. as we've seen. It was OK to kill and condoned. IMO
 
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Except not all immigrants being detained and deported were illegal…



“In the past 11 months, the Trump administration has stripped more than 1.6 million people of legal status”

One example is the now viral ‘Little Liam’, the 5 year old who was taken with his father by ICE at their home. His father has committed no crimes and was following all protocols for legally seeking asylum in the US. Thankfully, a judge has just blocked Liam’s deportation.


ETA another example of two children being deported that were U.S Citizens:


“NBC News reports that, according to a lawyer with the National Immigration Project, the two children, ages 4 and 7, were put on their mother’s deportation flight the day after they were all detained on April 24.”
There’s also stories like this, a Maryland woman who was born in the US was detained for 25 days, despite her lawyers presenting her US birth certificate. She was finally released in early January. Where exactly were they going to deport her to?

 
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There’s also stories like this, a Maryland woman who was born in the US was detained for 25 days, despite her lawyers presenting her US birth certificate. She was finally released in early January. Where exactly were they going to deport her to?

Betcha anything ICE will count people like this when they brag how many people they have found. imo

jmopinion
 
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I haven't been on in a long time, however I hoped my fellow sleuths might be finding details to help explain what looks like from the video stills to be the second public assasination of a law abiding citizen. Has anyone identified the woman Pretti was trying to help and where she is now?
  • Identification and Account: The woman, who has not been widely named in all reports but is identified in some legal contexts as a legal observer, recently filed a sworn affidavit. She stated she had been shoved to the ground by federal agents and that Alex Pretti moved toward her to shield and help her up.
  • Legal Status: She and another woman were reportedly detained at the scene, held for approximately an hour, and then released with a citation for impeding federal officers.
  • Current Involvement: She is now a central witness in legal filings demanding an independent investigation into the shooting. In her statement, she described locking eyes with Pretti moments before the gunfire and emphasized that his focus was entirely on her safety.
Source Court Affidavits
 
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A list of grievances against the British Crown by the signatories of the Declaration of Independence

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

The similarities of what is occurring in the US today is looking pretty uncanny to me.
 
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It won’t change anything.

Remember all the campaign against George Floyd? It didn’t reach the goal because regardless of who Floyd was, and his prior history, a policeman, Chauvin, had no legal right to treat him like it.

And later, it led to lots of protests that shook the country, and good cops also took the blame, and were defunded, and I doubt that any of them supports Chauvin.

This situation is very different, politically, but I doubt that any of the group who killed Pretti is going to be promoted for it.

All those involved in killing of Alex Pretti need to be known, the contents of Pretti’s phone have to be given to his family, it was his intellectual property, and if the DSHS extends immunity to his executioners, then Minnesota will decide what to do.

I hope every single one of those ICE agents are identified. They cannot hide behind immunity and anonymity. If Tyre Nichols' killers can be identified so can they. Whether they are charged or convicted is irrelevant. Their character flaws should be exposed so they never work in LE ever again.
 
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Yep your reply is to Exhibit A of 'alternative facts' and false equivalences trotted out by the folks who like I said 'jumped the shark' long ago
False information with actual video proof even, over and over. Scary. IMO
 
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A list of grievances against the British Crown by the signatories of the Declaration of Independence



















The similarities of what is occurring in the US today is looking pretty uncanny to me.
Me too.

The patriots in the 1770s were angry, among other things, about British military entering homes to search and seize without warrant.

Sound familiar?

That grievance eventually was remedied with our 4th amendment.

Some people right now seem okay for ICE to work without warrants. I wish people would review history before cheering while our Bill of Rights are violated.

That's not even counting the other, more well-known, amendments. Don't forget the 4th!

Just My Patriotic Opinion

 
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I predict two shooters will be charged.

Furthermore, I predict based on opinion and based on what's missing in the details, that conspiracy-related crimes will be charged. After the shooting, DHS Bovino stated a name. My opinion is they scrambled to completely fabricate the notion that there was a target -- Jose Huerta-Chuma. I predict there will be no DHS document nor communication that can be produced from before Saturday to support ANY planning/targeting him. Bovino likely in my opinion told somebody quick pull some name off a list somewhere. All solely my opinion.
Minnesota Attorney General discusses lack of DHS transparency that to me is additional grounds for conspiracy charges...
 
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Brave, brave immigrant young men and women. Some families carrying babies, taking a huge leap of hope and faith. Little money at all, just believing. Could 'you' of done what your ancestors did? The long and not pleasant AT ALL boat ride across the oceans. Not a cruise. Leaving their parents, sisters, brothers and childhood friends. Fortunate are we that do know at least some of our recent immigrant family members, and I mean past 100 years, while we could in younger days, such as grandparents. The sorrows of leaving their families because THEY HAD to for money to save themselves and their families back home. Just like today. Just like today. Immigration changed, huge money is needed. The 'hated ones' are coming from dirt. No money to be made. How VERY fortunate 'you' are if your ancestors braved all to come here and where 'you' enjoy all the comforts they provided for you. 'You' need to know why they came here even if from a country that is just fine now. It obviously wasn't for them at the time. IMO
Yes, that's the story of many legal immigrants to the U.S. Both our ancestors and our present day legal immigrants. And the people of the U.S. support those of us who have made this journey legally.
 
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Yes, that's the story of many legal immigrants to the U.S. Both our ancestors and our present day legal immigrants d. And the people of the U.S. support those of us who have made this journey legally.
Moo..I understand, the want and need to deport illegal peoples. But my understanding is there has always been ice and deportations. Watching this from out side of USA it reminds me of a first person video game...which is kinda creepy. The masks you cannot see a person's emotions and it allows person to feel anonymous. No reason they should be wearing masks to hide their identity. Local LE does not hide their identity. And local LE do not like ice....local LE feel protective of the people they ...serve and protect
 
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Hey folks,

Websleuths does not normally allow discussion of immigration.

As immigration is the reason ICE is in Minnesota, we are making an exception that members may discuss immigration but ONLY as it relates to Minnesota and this case.
 

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