MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

[Marysmith]

The life of Ross's coworkers and the lives of other bystanders were at stake. Renee Good was murdered. There was danger that began when Ross moved his phone to his left hand so he could pull out a gun and shoot at a bystander on a crowded street. So there was danger created by the murderer.

But until then, I agree. There was never danger.

MOO

Right. Sorry, I meant before he shot. There was no need to escalate to that point at all at all IMO.

 

[Snoopster]

Facts matter, not emotional baiting. Research is crucial.

What is the average length of training for ICE agents? Is it as long as city police officers?

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/09/nx-s...ut-ices-truncated-training-after-hiring-blitz

training to get all of those bodies into ICE, all of the right law enforcement folks into ICE, training has been reduced from about 16 weeks to about six, six and a half weeks.

ICE Academy Shortened Its Training to Just 47 Days Under Trump in Nod to the 47th President, Report Claims

The training period for new ICE recruits was trimmed 'roughly in half' to just 47 days last year, according to a report by 'The Atlantic,' because Donald Trump is the 47th president. ICE training protocols have become a focal point since the Jan. 7 shooting death of U.S. citizen Renee Nicole...

people.com

a senior DHS official replied, "False. Training to become an Enforcement and Removal Operations officer is 8 weeks long."

How long does an American local police officer train for?

In the United States, police officer training varies significantly by state and agency, but the average basic academy training lasts about 21-22 weeks (around five months), followed by a mandatory field training program. The entire process, including field training and a probationary period, typically lasts about a year.

I'm guessing that the extra time isn't about how to shoot a weapon, but more about how to investigate and manage situations effectively.

 

[Sundog]

Sounds like an out of the loop of a decade or so of reality here,
ICE is a made up group sent to terrorize communities, throw their big guns and verrrry scary outfits that were designed to invoke fear, oh they LOVE IT. Look and act like they do with the big killer guns to look for the desperate to live decently 'illigal' aliens, who designed all that? Who are they, we know. Where did they each come from, we know. Don't think they are the standard, vetted, trained in all aspects of being a 'peace officer'. They came about in these massive numbers under this non white people hating admin. Justify your reasons to feel 'comfortable' with yourselves, not wanting ILLIGAL ALIENS around you, horrors. 'Your' excuse for being a fearful and intellectually limited, clearly, person of people not 'white' who's ancestors came here for the same reasons enabling 'YOU' to spew about today. IMO

It's more than sad, it's tragic, that the borders were wide open for illegal immigrants to enter the U.S. during such a long period of time. The number one issue for voters in the last election was for the government to deal with this problem of illegal immigration of an estimated 15-20 million people who shouldn't be here. There are millions of people who are waiting to get here legally and they are vetted and admitted if appropriate. So, no, the ICE officers are not a "made up group," they are doing their legal job which is to arrest illegal immigrants in the U.S. The due process is provided by an immigration law judge following the arrests and likely detention. Also, the illegal immigrants have the option of self-deporting voluntarily and then applying to come legally to the U.S. To blame the current administration for addressing this is to put the blame in the wrong place, IMO.

U.S. voters prioritized this issue when they voted in the last election based on the impact in their communities on hospitals, schools, and other public services throughout the country.

 

[Ruminations]

So you heard the thud of the Honda Pilot hitting his body then?

No, I saw the videos, and listened to the witnesses on the scene, and have concluded with my reasonable senses that nobody was hit with a vehicle.

The only danger on the scene was from the shooter who did not only murder a mother of three, he endangered everybody else on the street including his own coworkers.



MOO

 

[Tutter]

Are you suggesting there are similarities in Renee Good's actions to Ashlee Babbit? Or that the gunmen who killed them were facing similar circumstances? I'm sad that they are dead. But I am not seeing an analogy. How are the cases similar?

MOO

Well no. Ashli was not in any way to be even perceived as threatening the officer who shot and killed her. I don’t she did anything worth being killed over just like Renee. The officers overreacted in the moment. Both white women, both unarmed. Both should still be alive.

 

[Sillybilly]

Okay folks ... thread is closed for the night.

Check back tomorrow and we'll see how it all goes.

G'night