MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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  • #2,621
Maybe, but it is not public.

Administrative leave after an apparently justified shooting or any horrific LE experience makes sense. It must be extremely horrific to a normal, empathic human being to take a life under any circumstances.

While I think this shooting appears to be unjustified, I'd support the shooter going on administrative leave if the facts were very different and it looked like self-defense. I can't imagine the trauma.

MOO
I agree that the trauma for a law enforcement officer must be extremely horrific. In Mr. Ross' case, the trauma also includes the horrific threats that he and his family are getting. My prayers go out to Ms. Good's family and to Mr. Ross and his family. It's a tragic situation all around.
 
  • #2,622
"Protesters" in quotes?

I need a little clarification as to what that is.

I know what a protester is. Someone who exercises free speech in a free country (or a country like ours, sliding away from free.)

But what exactly is a "protester?" Is it a woman? A gay person? Why did you put it in quotes?

MOO
I’m a protester as well, I’d love to know

A taxpayer also
 
  • #2,623
She and her wife escalated a situation unnecessarily and then acted violently in trying to flee an order to surrender.
RBSM.
Surrender?? What were the charges? Where was the warrant?

He's an immigration officer and she was an American citizen exercising her right to protest.

Surrender?
 
  • #2,624
I could see an argument in a court of law that the drive baby drive comment in and of itself was incitement.

As Renee was back in her vehicle and had been told to leave, I interpret the "drive baby drive" to mean things are ramping up "get the heck out of here", not "driver over him baby ..."

JMO
 
  • #2,625
The impression I got (from the article I posted) is that it starts in Minnesota courts, then the accused requests the shift to federal court, and that is allowed by law.

It wasn't clear which federal court. Just that it "wouldn't be in the area".

imo
Thanks!
 
  • #2,626
As Renee was back in her vehicle and had been told to leave, I interpret the "drive baby drive" to mean things are ramping up "get the heck out of here", not "driver over him baby ..."

JMO
Exactly. IMO
 
  • #2,627
As Renee was back in her vehicle and had been told to leave, I interpret the "drive baby drive" to mean things are ramping up "get the heck out of here", not "driver over him baby ..."

JMO
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  • #2,628
Protestors can be moved away from where the jury can hear. The courthouse that I used to work at was huge, and you could not hear anything from outside, in both the State and Superior buildings. We've seen it happen over and over here. I'm fairly certain that there would be "mobs" from both sides wanting to be heard.
As far as immigrants go, they are still entitled to due process in this country. If they committed a crime here, they are entitled to a trial by jury or a bench trial. That is what I meant, but I'm sure folks understood that.
IMO.
Right. They can also keep a noisy crowd a block away so the noise doesn't reach a courtroom.

The court wouldn't be taken by surprise by any controversy if this case makes it to trial, imo. It would be prepared.

We don't give up on charging someone or going to trial just because there might be a noisy crowd that needs to be kept away from the jury's sight/earshot.

jmopinion
 
  • #2,629
Constantly. For years. Why are people even protesting the enforcement of laws? Nobody is trying to change the laws that I know of. They're just out with their whistles parking in the middle of the road.

I'm talking in general everything on both sides is so polarized with rhetoric. But mainly like.......if you don't like a law, try and change it. Don't interfere with Law Enforcement. IMO.
Okay. You might be trying to bait me, and I'm falling for it.

What law was being enforced? ICE only enforces immigration laws. Apparently there was a suspect blocks away. What was ICE doing on the street? Why was ICE trying to enter a civilian car?

ICE was not there to enforce the law. They had no purpose at all.

So, nobody is against law enforcement. Nobody is arguing with immigration laws on this thread because it's off topic. This is an apparent murder thread.

It does appear an ICE agent murdered someone. But there is absolutely no iota of information that there was any law enforcement going on.

MOO
 
  • #2,630
except the orders to leave were minutes earlier. Agent Ross was quite calm despite the goading. He is actually walking away when Ms Good is taunting "are you coming at us? are you coming at us? go get lunch big boy." Then when the last group of agents arrived he moves back to the front of the vehicle and the OTHER agents instruct Good to get out several times. It is then that Good decides to leave in a hurry, with an agent in front of her car and another attempting to open her door. She is NOT calmly "trying to leave as instructed". She and her wife escalated a situation unnecessarily and then acted violently in trying to flee an order to surrender.
Calm enough to switch his phone to his non-gun hand, pull and fire his weapon into her face three times, call her a f***ing b**ch, and then walk away, motioning to others to "wrap it up", get in a truck, and drive away from the scene.
I agree, he was very calm throughout the entire 45-ish seconds.
Cold, even.
And that is frightening.
IMO.
 
  • #2,631
As Renee was back in her vehicle and had been told to leave, I interpret the "drive baby drive" to mean things are ramping up "get the heck out of here", not "driver over him baby ..."

JMO
That's my interpretation too, taking the scene into context for those words.

jmopinion
 
  • #2,632
I don't think it is a measure of my tolerance of oppression. What was he "oppressing" by killing her? This is why I ask because the way this is being framed by some people sounds a lot like first degree murder to me.

Did he shoot her to shut her up? I am just trying to understand what you think the motivation was here. Oppression makes it sound like these agents are just going around killing everybody that gets in their way.
I mean, getting shot dead is pretty much the ultimate oppression.
IMO.
 
  • #2,633
<modsnip: Quoted post was removed>

Being that there was no legitimate law enforcement activity going on on on the street where Renee Good was shot, it seems there was only oppression against constitutionally protected activities.

That is oppressive. It seems to me ICE was not there to enforce immigration law, but was there to oppress citizens. The purpose is to chill protest activity, which is oppression.

Sorry <modsnip> ... the USA is becoming a country where protesting is becoming illegal.

MOO
 
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Protestors can be moved away from where the jury can hear. The courthouse that I used to work at was huge, and you could not hear anything from outside, in both the State and Superior buildings. We've seen it happen over and over here. I'm fairly certain that there would be "mobs" from both sides wanting to be heard.
As far as immigrants go, they are still entitled to due process in this country. If they committed a crime here, they are entitled to a trial by jury or a bench trial. That is what I meant, but I'm sure folks understood that.
IMO.
The crime they committed is that they illegally entered the country. There is no trial for that. They are detained when arrested, then they appear before an administrative judge which is their due process and the judge removes them from the country if they are here illegally.
 
  • #2,635
"Protesters" in quotes?

I need a little clarification as to what that is.

I know what a protester is. Someone who exercises free speech in a free country (or a country like ours, sliding away from free.)

But what exactly is a "protester?" Is it a woman? A gay person? Why did you put it in quotes?

MOO

I put it in quotes because when I think of protesters I don't think of what we have seen from some recent protests as protesting. Actively interfering in law enforcement operations, violence against LE isn't protesting IMO it is agitating. I mean. Parking your car in the middle of the road? Why. To obstruct the road. They weren't marching. They didn't have signs. They were just parked in the road. I read that they were blowing whistles. Apparently her wife got out of the car at some point to antagonize the agents.

What do you think would have happened if these ladies had actually parked on the curb normally, then gotten out of their car and stood on the sidewalk blowing their whistles and insulting the agents?

I don't think any of this would have happened if they were just protesting as I think of protesting. They didn't have enough people to do a sit in or a march or anything that actually could possibly shut something down.
 
  • #2,636
It's not baffling really, the reason is known why. He said his reason with &&&ing &&&&ich. IMO
Misogyny and ego ruled his emotions
 
  • #2,637
It does appear an ICE agent murdered someone.

MOO
Snipped for focus

An ICE agent fatally shot someone, there has been no adjudication of murder in this case.
 
  • #2,638
RBSM.
Surrender?? What were the charges? Where was the warrant?

He's an immigration officer and she was an American citizen exercising her right to protest.

Surrender?
Exactly. Ross had no business interacting with Renee. His coworkers had no business trying to get into her car.

Of course, he had not business shooting her once, let alone 3 times.

It could have been any of us.

MOO
 
  • #2,639
My understanding is that when law enforcement are involved in a fatal shooting then there is an internal review. I suspect that is what is happening now. The Department of Homeland Security would be conducting an internal review, IMO.
That would be a yuuuge problem, imo
 
  • #2,640
I’m going to close this thread for now — we seem to be going in circles, feelings are running high, and it’s just getting exhausting for everyone.


We’ll reopen the discussion when there’s real, verifiable news, such as a formal announcement from the state on whether charges will be brought against the ICE officer involved. At this point, no charges have been filed or confirmed.

A “Media Only” thread to track verified reporting (news outlets, official statements, and such), is linked in the opening post of this discussion.

In the meantime, if you’re looking for something meaningful to do here in the community, I encourage you to visit our Missing but Not Forgotten forum. Click on a decade, choose a case that interests you, and do a quick search for any new information on that missing person. If you find something newsworthy, post it in the appropriate thread. Families of the missing often check those threads regularly, and even small updates can truly brighten their day.
Thank you
Tricia
 
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