MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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I disagree with the thought ICE doesn’t have authority here. They are federal LE and have authority to control a scene , issue safety related commands and prevent interference with a federal operation regardless of protest status. Being a protester does not give you immunity from laws or lawful orders. Authority stops mattering the moment a vehicle accelerated towards the agent. IMO

Control what scene? They were protesting and she was observing. Three minutes she was sitting there. She was not obstructing. If she was, they wouldn't have been able to move around her. They have no authority to order her out of the car. They can tell her to leave, sure. But they have no authority to arrest her or detain her unless she's part of their operation or actively interfering, which she was not. They can issue a command, and they did -- contradictory commands. But to then shoot her?!? And people are defending this with the line "you should do what LE tells you to?" That makes no sense to me.

MOO.
 
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There are bad officers out there who create the situations leading to injuries

Yes, and one of them is Jonathan Ross.

MOO.
 
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I’m thankful for LE for putting themselves in harm’s way to keep us safe. Maybe look into that man he was trying to arrest. imo
None of us are safe with these untrained hate filled brown shirt fools with weapons
 
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Case dropped against TikTok streamer who was shot by US immigration agents

Carlitos Ricardo Parias, who livestreams LA breaking news, was accused of ramming car into federal officers’ vehicles


The government had charged Parias with assault, saying that he used his car as a “weapon” to ram two law enforcement vehicles. But in video footage leading up to Parias’s shooting, reviewed by the LA Times, Parias’s car did not appear to be moving. The footage shows him asking officers why he is being detained, and an officer threatening to shoot Parias if he doesn’t get out.
 
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Maybe you can watch it in slo-mo. You can hear the engine rev before the shot is fired. imo

Don't we expect her engine to rev if she's backing up in snow and ice?
 
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Joe Public doesn’t know their operational plan, intelligence, needed manpower, or risk assessment. Ms. Goode did not either and obstructed a roadway, did not listen to prior commands to leave. The timeline leading up to this event also matters. IMO

She was leaving.
 
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Either way, as well as not assisting Renee after she was shot, ICE reportedly would not let a nearby doctor help her.

(linked further back)

Also, a reference is linked on this Wiki page ... Killing of Ren

They didn't allow EMS to approach her. There was a doctor on-scene and they refused to let him see her to even check for a pulse.

I'd like to hear what the defense is for not allowing medical care?

I have one. Some unidentified random guy claiming to be a doctor does get to enter an active crime scene and come in contact with the victim. LE will request, as they did, EMS. iMO
 
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Is the jump from: Videos indicate she would never say something like that- so- its nonsensical to think she would?

I would not be surprised if a wide variety of Homo Sapiens (white, back, men and women etc) in a wide variety of different police confrontations have given alot of impulsive and badly thought out commands to partners.

Such an impulsive and badly thought out command could well include "Drive baby drive" made by a person who had already challenged officers to come at her.

I was referring to the assertion that she weaponized her vehicle. She did not. The video shows it very clearly. She was trying to leave the scene, not weaponize her video.

IMO
 
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US immigration officers made false and misleading statements in their reports about several Los Angeles protesters they arrested during the massive demonstrations that rocked the city in June, according to federal law enforcement files obtained by the Guardian.

The officers’ testimony was cited in at least five cases filed by the US Department of Justice amid the unrest. The justice department has charged at least 26 people with “assaulting” and “impeding” federal officers and other crimes during the protests over immigration raids. Prosecutors, however, have since been forced to dismiss at least eight of those felonies, many of them which relied on officers’ inaccurate reports, court records show.

 
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I have one. Some unidentified random guy claiming to be a doctor does get to enter an active crime scene and come in contact with the victim. LE will request, as they did, EMS. iMO
Actual LE, not ICE obviously as we now know, does know how to do CPR and are required to do so - and also call for assistance but do CPR until EMS arrive on scene. No one rendered aid to the victim and ICE refused assistance from anyone else.
 
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I’m thankful to LE for putting themselves in harm’s way to keep us safe. Maybe look into that man he was trying to arrest. imo

It does not justify murdering someone. It just does not.
 
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I’ve watched several videos and frame by frames. Stayed away from online commentary. Letting her leave was not a safe option. She was not complying with commands and once she used her vehicle in a way that created an immediate threat, the situation changed. LE are not required to step aside and hope no one gets hurt. The agent had seconds to act to protect himself and others (not just LE, bystanders on the road too) and the risk did not disappear because she was trying to leave. The impacts were from the drivers side front windshield. This was justified based on what I have seen so far. All my opinion.
"Letting her leave was not a safe option."
I've watched several videos frame by frame as well.
Actually, if they let her leave it would have been the safest option. No one would have been hurt or killed. IMO.
The interaction between ICE and the victim was very, very short, and then she decided to move on. It seems they got their shorts in a knot and decided that that was worth killing her over. Law enforcement officers are normally better trained than that. Police officers don't shoot someone who is 'moving on'. They are thrilled when someone moves on. Again, JMO.
 
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I have one. Some unidentified random guy claiming to be a doctor does get to enter an active crime scene and come in contact with the victim. LE will request, as they did, EMS. iMO
A crime scene where the shooter didn't bother to render care and left the scene That crime scene you mean?

Is that illegal?
 
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The person murdered is a victim and some WSers (of all people!) are blaming the victim for getting a bullet to her face.

jmo
 
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I believe it's been widely reported that agents carried Good to EMTs when they arrived.

The reports I saw said EMT arrived on foot. The agents couldn't have cared less as was shown in the video when he called her a "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" and walked away care free.

MOO
 
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Then maybe there shouldn’t have been 5 agents with conflicting commands? They should be working together? So the first one says to get out of here which she was clearly doing, that means the others should follow suit on the first agents command and let her continue to leave.
I struggle to see the purpose of any ICE at that location.The victim was a citizen. Local LE didn't ask for ICE at that location. These are public funds being spent to take unnecessary and dangerous actions on the street.

I'm sure there are legitimate purposes for ICE somewhere, but the agents need to be trained and in control of their emotions. They need to be deployed where they are needed, and they need to learn how to do their jobs, even if there are people around filming them and exercising their constitutional right to express that this is not what they want to see done with their tax dollars.

Three children lost their mother-one of whom had already lost his father. And I did not see one law broken by non-ICE agents.

Nothing was gained; Renee Good was lost.

MOO
 
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Actual LE, not ICE obviously as we now know, does know how to do CPR and are required to do so - and also call for assistance but do CPR until EMS arrive on scene. No one rendered aid to the victim and ICE refused assistance from anyone else.
I disagree. LE is not required to start CPR immediately after a shooting if the scene is not secure. IMO
 
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I disagree. LE is not required to start CPR immediately after a shooting if the scene is not secure. IMO
OK, I can understand that but how was it not secure? People were shouting but that was it, right? A civilian Physician was willing to help!
 
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I disagree. LE is not required to start CPR immediately after a shooting if the scene is not secure. IMO
How was the scene not secure? Were there other 'shooters' running about? Oh, yeah, there weren't ANY shooters and none of the protesters seemed physically aggressive. People weren't bearing weapons; they weren't throwing things. If this is how ICE (who don't wear any distinguishing badges and aren't clearly identified as official) acts during mild protests, what could happen in the future?
They 'took out' a woman who wasn't doing anything extreme. MOO. And then they wouldn't let anyone give her aid.
Where did humanity go?
 
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