MN -- woman shot in face and killed by ICE, Minneapolis, 7 Jan 2026

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The police training is to hit the larger target.

It’s incredibly hard to STOP someone by shooting them in the knee, for example.

It’s a split second decision and they aim for either the chest or the head.

Usually the chest.
The larger target here would have been the car. Shoot the tires to stop the car? Maybe that would have worked?? I know nothing about shooting, tbh.
 
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Setting emotions aside....with the lightning fast rise of AI, who can truly say what is going on? Look at the underlying motivations and FOLLOW THE MONEY. Logic needs to rule in these overblown times. Facts matter.
 
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Officers are trained to deal with hecklers. I have watched many live protests throughout the US in the past few years. Officers take a lot of abuse and never respond emotionally. I doubt he was upset by a 'bold woman'.

When officer training kicks in, it's shoot to kill.

After the shooting, he would have self-reported and followed orders.

I agree. This was not about being heckled or offended. You do not shoot to scare, disable or strike fear. You shoot to stop a lethal threat. They are trained to aim center mass. This is what the agent did. His actions won’t be judged on hindsight but what was reasonable to him in those moments. IMO
 
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JR, the person who shot RG, was a career military person. From this source, quoting his Dec. deposition in the case where he was drug by a vehicle in 2025:


Source: ICE officer who shot woman in Minneapolis served in Indiana National Guard

So he spent much of his adult life in military/law enforcement positions, where he has been exposed to extensive training and also lots of trauma. He is not one of the newly hired ICE officers. He is experienced.

When I see these videos from across the nation of ICE officers confronting protestors by use of force ad massive violence, I just don't understand. How has it come to where citizens using their constitutionally given rights to speak up have become the enemy and the target? So some people have shown up with vehicles to make it difficult for ICE officers to "do their jobs" because the citizens vehemently disagree with how ICE is acting. They are not actually threatening, there are no weapons, no bear spray or knives or spears. Just words and cell phones and whistles. It would have been EASY for the officers to leave and come back another day.

If they had sat in their vehicles, used their loudspeakers, and told everyone to disperse, different outcome. If they had sat and waited without doing anything, different outcome. If they had passed RG's vehicle and moved on, different outcome. There is no skin off of their nose for their work to be disrupted. That IS part of the work right now. The moment they see the protestors as the enemy, that is the problem. I know officers who say, "I protect your right to speech. Doesn't matter if I agree with you."

I can't imagine there were many ICE targets (i.e. dangerous criminals) in that sleepy street with a school. The people who live on this street or walk there or the children who attend that school are the very people the ICE agents are supposed to be protecting by getting dangerous criminals who are undocumented immigrants out of the country, right? But they become dangerous enemies when they express their dislike of how ICE is doing this job? This is the real problem. Because in the US, people are free to speak their minds and protest. Seems like some of these ICE agents have lost that thread.
It is against the law in the U.S. to interfere with the work of law enforcement. The immigration enforcement officers were there to uphold U.S. law regarding illegal immigration.
 
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Officers are trained to deal with hecklers. I have watched many live protests throughout the US in the past few years. Officers take a lot of abuse and never respond emotionally. I doubt he was upset by a 'bold woman'.

When officer training kicks in, it's shoot to kill.

After the shooting, he would have self-reported and followed orders.
Officers are trained to kill in all situations??? That's what an officer's training is?? I find that hard to believe. And I hope that all professionally trained LE officers find that hard to believe as well. They are taught to first try to diffuse the situation, aren't they? They aren't taught to shoot-to-kill after a fleeing 'felon' (and this woman wasn't even a 'felon' or a major risk).

I don't believe that a normal police department would have handled this situation in the same way.
They are taught to find non-lethal methods to deal with a situation, where possible.
In this case the guy shot the victim (and yes, I definitely believe she is the victim! ) in the face through the front windshield and then twice through side window. (Clearly she was driving very slowly.) She was likely dead after the first shot. Why the overkill for someone trying to leave the scene? Someone who hadn't hurt anyone and who wasn't brandishing a weapon? Someone who wasn't even totally blocking traffic? Just a woman who was concerned that her neighbors might be arrested without due process, and more likely picked up because ICE agents have a quota. <sigh>

Where did humanity go??
this isn't political. This is human.
Local LE would never have handled this situation this way.
 
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It is against the law in the U.S. to interfere with the work of law enforcement. The immigration enforcement officers were there to uphold U.S. law regarding illegal immigration.
Even if she was "interfering with the work of LE" that is not a capital offense subject to immediate execution.
 
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I do believe that the only reason the officer pulled his weapon and aimed at the driver was to stop her, but she didn't stop.

I do not believe that the officer shot the driver because he has PTSD, anger against women, felt taunted, was emotional, or for any reason other than reasons associated with his job. That is, the only reason he would pull a weapon and shoot is because he felt threatened when a vehicle was heading towards him.
But if he felt threatened that the vehicle was heading towards him, how is shooting her going to stop the vehicle from coming towards him? His only option would be to get out of the way.

He acted completely irrationally and contrary to any training he would have received. There has to be another reason.
 
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Interesting how the "domestic terrorists" wife was able to run straight to her dead/dying loved one and into the car without being stopped by any of the ICE agents.
There could have been weapons in there, right? I mean, these "terrorists" were so dangerous that killing one of them was necessary.
Were the agents still in fear for their lives at that point?
Makes zero sense. No protocol was followed. No professionalism.
What a clustermuck.
IMO.
Excellent point
 
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I just saw the ring doorbell video from right where the vehicle came to rest.

Ms Good's wife was first to reach the victim (running).
Then the shooter sauntered up slowly , looked in the vehicle and walked away leaving the two women alone at the vehicle.

It did not show his ICE vehicle driving by/leaving as the woman he shot lay dying in the front seat of car.
There's an extended video of him getting into his car and driving off, someone is filming the number plate etc I'll see if I can find the source
 
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Yes. There has been a very clear effort to dehumanize any opposition. From an historical perspective, that's terrifying.
Actually, the immigration enforcement officers have been dehumanized while they are doing their job which is to arrest and then deport illegal immigrants.
 
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Interesting how the "domestic terrorists" wife was able to run straight to her dead/dying loved one and into the car without being stopped by any of the ICE agents.
There could have been weapons in there, right? I mean, these "terrorists" were so dangerous that killing one of them was necessary.
Were the agents still in fear for their lives at that point?
Makes zero sense. No protocol was followed. No professionalism.
What a clustermuck.
IMO.
Yep couldn't render assistance because they needed to secure the scene but didn't bother to secure the scene
 
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No wonder the FBI cut out state investigators. We need justice for Renee and this <modsnip: name calling> needs to be a prison for the rest of his worthless life.

MOO.
rsbm

What happened to presumption of innocence?

I believe there is excessive anti–law enforcement rhetoric that encourages the public to interfere with police operations. imo
 
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rsbm

What happened to presumption of innocence?

I believe there is excessive anti–law enforcement rhetoric that encourages the public to interfere with police operations. imo
I recall a time when this site was very pro LE. What happened???? Been here 23 years. A sea change has occurred, not for the best. Let's see if this is taken down.......
 
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And when rhetoric like the above is posted, with literal lies and propaganda spread, that is when I’m removing myself from the conversation. I hope that Renee’s family gets justice and there is a speedy and fair trial for Officer Ross.
 
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I joined WS because of the Kohberger murders in Iowa, that was the first case I followed here. I cannot imagine if in one of the threads there, people were saying “well the girls left their sliding door unlocked, so it was easy for Bryan to get into the house and then look what happened” or “I wonder if any of the girls ever paid attention to him or if they communicated on social media and he may have gotten the wrong idea from them” That’s honestly what I feel like is happening in this thread. I’ve never seen a thread on here with so much victim blaming IMO.
This! I am very disappointed.
 
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I'm a foreigner who has heard all my life that the US is the greatest country in the world. Of course I assume that ICE agents are professionals.

Has the US changed so much in the past year that unprofessional officers patrolling the streets shoot people because they're emotionally upset by protesters?
Yes. <modsnip: Opinion not in article>

 
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And when rhetoric like the above is posted, with literal lies and propaganda spread, that is when I’m removing myself from the conversation. I hope that Renee’s family gets justice and there is a speedy and fair trial for Officer Ross.
If a trial is warranted following an internal investigation, I, too, hope that it is a fair trial.
 
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rsbm

What happened to presumption of innocence?

I believe there is excessive anti–law enforcement rhetoric that encourages the public to interfere with police operations. imo
I'm sure Renee's loved ones are asking the same question.
IMO.
 

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