GUILTY MO - Breeann Rodriguez, 3, Senath, 6 August 2011 - #3

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  • #261
If he confessed (confession a rumor) to strangling her and that was what brought about the murder charge then where does a weapon come into this? He certainly wouldn't need a weapon to abduct a 3 yr old.

I don't know why I'm so boggled by this, sorry you all.

What if it has to do with the third item of interest found that was "negative"? Suffocation isn't necessarily strangling (plastic bag?). I'm not sure what the dangerous item or weapon would be to have brought about the charge of armed criminal action though.
 
  • #262
What if it has to do with the third item of interest found that was "negative"? Suffocation isn't necessarily strangling (plastic bag?). I'm not sure what the dangerous item or weapon would be to have brought about the charge of armed criminal action though.

maybe it has to do with the bike :(
 
  • #263
Of course, he could be lying about suffocation...thinking that is the least violent manner of death, one that he could admit to more easily...who knows what really happened to this poor child.
 
  • #264
Growing up, my parents were very protective. But, I can remember playing outside with my older sister and other neighborhood children without constant supervision, even when I was as young as two. My mother would look out the door from time to time to check on us. I don't remember exactly when a particular family moved in across the street from us, but for many years the grandmother would sit on the front porch every day. She knew everything that was going on in the neighborhood. When we were older, my sister didn't like the woman because she thought she was a busy-body. Our neighborhood had deteriorated in later years, though, so I felt much safer knowing that someone was watching over it. My mother and another neighbor were also ones to spend a couple of hours daily sitting on the front porch. Nowadays, it's rare to see people sitting outside on their front porches surveying the neighborhood. I think in this age of technology, we tend to spend more time inside at our computers, like we are now, or in front of a television set. IMO, we tend to be more connected to people hundreds of miles away than we are to people living on our own street.
 
  • #265
But he wasn't a stranger. He was a neighbor, a father from the same street. And I am not sure that he came and nabbed her. From what I have read so far, she may have ridden up the street to his house. He may have taken her from his own front yard. The point is a 3 yr old child should not be out riding her bike all alone. Even with a 5 yr old it is too dangerous. imoo

In that no one saw her being taken from her yard, it appears she may have ridden right up to his front door. It would be interesting to know where his family was that day, as well as others who live near him, who obviously didn't see anything. However, looking at the Google maps of the neighborhood, it doesn't appear that anyone has much of a yard to maintain, etc. for them to be outside on a Saturday afternoon.

MOO
 
  • #266
OK so this 🤬🤬🤬 was obviously spreading the evidence around IMO. The training wheels (maybe dropped off at two different times) and Breeann's location is likely in water since searchers are dragging waterways. JMO
 
  • #267
I am not saying stranger danger would have helped in this particular case. I don't feel the parents were at fault and they are being blamed by some here. I am saying we can't always be with them every second of every day. That he could have come in her window and took her. That we cannot smother our children. We need to protect them in every way we can as much as we can but things still happen. Everything is not black and white in this world. If it was children would never be taken.
Yes I saw that she may have ridden up the street to his house and that he has been there for ten years and the parents may have let her go to his house before. She may have played with his kids many times and he is not an RSO and some parents might have felt they knew him enough not to worry about letting him keep an eye on her while they ran in to answer the phone or use the bathroom.

I don't blame these parents. Didn't when she went missing, don't now. That's all I am saying.

Sure, a stranger could have climbed in her window, but then we would have wondered if the window was locked. I think it is partly a scared response on our parts, thinking if we don't do anything 'unsafe' that our kids won't become victims. Of course that is wrong. We can not totally prevent something bad from happening. This guy was a neighborhood father for 10 years, with a lovely church going wife and a lot of local friends. I am sure that I would have let my kids play over there with that family history. Who would have known how sick he really was?

My heart goes out to Breeann's family. I do not want to blame them at all. However I stick to my assertion that 3 yr olds should not be out and about on their own. They are too young. We obviously cannot be with our children at all times. But when it is possible to keep them from being out all alone then we should do so. imoo
 
  • #268
Yikes, when I think back to some of the creepy male adults I was around as a child...but back then, no one really thought about it. My best friend's dad AND brother were super creepy...and one distantly related uncle...and my sixth- grade teacher. I never told my mom about my sixth-grade teacher and some of the things he used to say to me until a few years ago and she broke down crying and then I wished I never told her. :(
 
  • #269
If he confessed (confession a rumor) to strangling her and that was what brought about the murder charge then where does a weapon come into this? He certainly wouldn't need a weapon to abduct a 3 yr old.

I don't know why I'm so boggled by this, sorry you all.

I was talking to my sister about this earlier and she had an interesting take. Perhaps [probably not likely] SM hit Breean with his car, suffocated her out of fear of prosecution, and disposed of her body. (I felt horrible just typing that:() IF- and a big IF- that's the case, a vehicle can also be considered a 'dangerous instrument' under the MO statute. Not sure what to think at this point.

ETA: While her scenerio is disturbing, I hope I'm wrong & she's right. The things that are going through my head right now are a lot more scary/sinister.
 
  • #270
I don't even know how to express how awful this is....another beautiful child gone, and another family left in grief and despair.

I'm heartbroken for Breeann, for her family, and a little bit for myself. I love children and appreciate them so much.I just can't comprehend such emptiness of a soul, such hard coldness of heart and spirit that would allow a person to end the life of a child. Where does such sickness and such evil begin?

I wish we could make it stop.
 
  • #271
Off topic but I have a child that is now a teen. She is beautiful. She's not pretty she's not cute---she is beautiful (don't ask me where that came from!) and we had grown men take inappropriate amounts of interest in her since she was a toddler.

One time, she was standing next to me at walmart as I was shopping and I had my back to her, she reached over and grabbed the inside of my elbow and nuzzled up. I said what's wrong? She said that man is creepy. I looked over and there was a middle aged man staring at her so focused he didn't notice me charging after him until I was almost up on him.

Now she's 16 and she takes her brother with her wherever she goes (or her 6ft tall 16 yr old boyfriend).

Breeann didn't stand a chance. These people are everywhere. It's sickening. It's not just men either. Sorry for the rant but these freakin perverts just really peeve me to no end.
 
  • #272
I was talking to my sister about this earlier and she had an interesting take. Perhaps [probably not likely] SM hit Breean with his car, suffocated her out of fear of prosecution, and disposed of her body. (I felt horrible just typing that:() IF- and a big IF- that's the case, a vehicle can also be considered a 'dangerous instrument' under the MO statute. Not sure what to think at this point.

ETA: While her scenerio is disturbing, I hope I'm wrong & she's right. The things that are going through my head right now are a lot more scary/sinister.

But he was charged with first degree murder.
 
  • #273
I was talking to my sister about this earlier and she had an interesting take. Perhaps [probably not likely] SM hit Breean with his car, suffocated her out of fear of prosecution, and disposed of her body. (I felt horrible just typing that:() IF- and a big IF- that's the case, a vehicle can also be considered a 'dangerous instrument' under the MO statute. Not sure what to think at this point.

ETA: While her scenerio is disturbing, I hope I'm wrong & she's right. The things that are going through my head right now are a lot more scary/sinister.

The charge is first-degree murder...I don't think this was any accident...
 
  • #274
I hope your sister is right too Jetaime. At least Breeann would have been spared that horrific indignity if so. It would be murder if he did back over her she was alive and then he decided to end her life in order to avoid detection. JMHO
 
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I couldn't simply just thank you for this post. I am feeling somewhat attacked by all those who want to blame the parents. I was just about to leave this thread. ITA with everything you said.

I'm sure the parents are beating themselves up enough as it is. However, I don't think it hurts any of us to be reminded that we need to protect our children. <modsnip>
 
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Sorry to be graphic here, but many have been asking questions. I just asked my husband, law enforcement for over 40 years, to explain this to me. He said in 99 percent of these cases, rapists strangle their victims with their hands, hence the term power rapist. He also advised this would not be the first offense for the suspect. He said they always start out with exposing themselves and then slowly build up to molestation and then the final high...murder in combination with the rape. IMO I'm sure his victims were too young to tell anyone.
It's a sad world we live in. May God hold you close at this time, our sweet little girl.
 
  • #279
Off topic but I have a child that is now a teen. She is beautiful. She's not pretty she's not cute---she is beautiful (don't ask me where that came from!) and we had grown men take inappropriate amounts of interest in her since she was a toddler.

One time, she was standing next to me at walmart as I was shopping and I had my back to her, she reached over and grabbed the inside of my elbow and nuzzled up. I said what's wrong? She said that man is creepy. I looked over and there was a middle aged man staring at her so focused he didn't notice me charging after him until I was almost up on him.

Now she's 16 and she takes her brother with her wherever she goes (or her 6ft tall 16 yr old boyfriend).

Breeann didn't stand a chance. These people are everywhere. It's sickening. It's not just men either. Sorry for the rant but these freakin perverts just really peeve me to no end.

I can relate. My daughter is now 19, but she still hates to go anywhere alone.
When she was 13 she was 5 ft 7 and looked like a beautiful 16 yr old. She is a gorgeous girl and people tend to stare at her. Even when my husband is there! She also got very strange comments from some of her male teachers, especially in middle school. I think middle school teachers can be pretty creepy. Sorry.
 
  • #280
Matou isn't it a crying shame that now we can actually have duct tape pop into our heads as a murder weapon? Sheesh.
 
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