***I didn't quote properly, but this response was in reference to the video someone posted of NG & GB in court***
I agree! NG does not sound particularly upset, but he can't seem to articulate his complete address properly without being prompted, and even then he seems a bit unsure. It's a bit funny/ironic since he mailed the knife back to his own house...Good thing he got the right address for that! :/
GB's sobbing makes me think of a scared little girl. It seems to indicate the possibility of stunted emotional/intellectual maturity (or perhaps wanting to give that impression in hopes of gaining sympathy). But I suppose being arrested, sitting in jail, and being charged with murder might make me sob too.
There is zero chance this girl has anything close to a normal psychology.
Frankly, this case is a defense attorney's dream. There will be so much to work with here and it is an interesting case. I predict that several private attorneys have offered or will offer to take her case pro bono.
This case is haunting but I will be following it closely. It is a cautionary tale about the grim effects of serious emotional abuse, IMO.
Yes he did. I had missed that story until today when I saw the link from human (thanks) post #540. In the blog (Gypsy Blancharde Thought Catalog) posting he didn't mention that Gypsy had been fed small amounts of poison. He did insinuate strongly that DB had been putting something in her stepmothers food.
It is very scary...if true.
The thing that puts me off about the cousin is how fast he came out with these stories. I doubt if LE had even had a chance to interview or speak with the family before he started posting to blogs and talking to media.
In the blog the only thing he said regarding Gypsy and food was that certain foods made Gypsy sick and DB wouldn't allow her to eat them.
He also mentioned that DB had certain ideas about food and would only eat potatoes. IMO
I think he's really feeling bad and perhaps a bit defensive for his family and for Gypsy. I believe this family. This is a huge deal for them and quite horrible. They know this child and some of what she was subjected to.
I think she was trying to find out a way to make a living without actually working.
Sure sounds like Dee Dee was a very dishonest person with no concerns for others. She opened up credit cards in her relatives names, and lived off that, according to her nephew.
I don't believe she was actually concerned about Gypsy's well being. I think it's was just a way for her to make a living without having to work, after her credit card scam was discovered.
Yeah, concerned mothers do not turn into psychopathic criminals who destroy their children for profit. She totally destroyed Gypsy's life.
Gruesome thoughts in my mind. She wasn't skinny, and she may have been a hoarder. She was probably covered up in a sunken bed.
A person who knew the family fairly well stated their house was always immaculate.
On another note, I read some posts on the last thread suggesting it could've been Gypsy who orchestrated all of this with her mother as the unwitting foil. 5 and 6 and 7 and 8 year olds do not have the capacity to perpetrate such a complex fraud and manipulate their parents and doctors.
I really urge all who are just learning about Munchausen's and malingering to do a bit of research. The complex psychological relationship the mother created with her daughter is unfathomable and intense. She isolated her, praised her for following along and abused her (clearly, based on her actions when mother stepped outside and saw her walking or playing), when Gypsy did not act the part.
Kids abused in this way develop a complex relationship with their abusive parent. The parent typically showers them with attention and "love" and keeps them very close and very dependent. Enmeshed is the word used to describe the parent-child relationship. However, while smiling with "love" at the child and acting distraught about what the child is going through, these parents cannot totally hide their excitement over the attention and money and their sadistic pleasure in subjecting their children to pain.
So they will do things like hug them tightly and stroke them and then fling them away or slap them the next moment, typically when they think no one is looking.
The child sees a "loving" and totally devoted parent who often showers them with gifts, and praise and attention, but who also gets a scary gleam in their eyes, and heightened adrenaline with a frightening face, right before they put something in their child's IV line or feeding tube or right before they grab a pillow or use their hand to smother the child until they are blue or barely breathing.
Make no mistake, these parents get off on this stuff. They feel he same kind of tension building and addictive need to release that tension through physical abuse and medical torture, as domestic abusers and serial killers do.
Yet their victims have been rendered totally dependent on the evil parent. Completely isolated psychologically from others or from the real world.
And since the abusing parent also "saves" the child by "discovering" the child in distress, breathing the life back into the child's body that they just took, frantically calling 911 or bringing the child to the hospital and acting horrified that the child is in distress, the child feels an impossible conflict.
This is their parent and usually, the only adult that takes care of them besides random medical personnel.
So they feel an insane dichotomy - dependent and intense love and gratitude to the parent who seems so devoted, loves them so much and fights so hard to save them..."I mean, she practically killed herself caring for Gypsy...She would get red in the face carrying all the medical equipment Gypsy needed when they went anywhere"...and also fear. Fear that the one who gave them life and cares so much and rescues them every day, will again get that look and again make the bad things happen.
These children innately know something is wrong and that the parent is a danger to them. But nature - the instinct about the parent-child relationship- and isolation from all others except those repeatedly confirming that the parent is the child's savior - prevents the child from truly understanding and being able to articulate that danger, beyond the random, "Please don't leave tonight. Promise you'll stay with me today?" to a nurse or friend visiting, on the day they sense the adrenaline building and see that look in their parent's eye.
This form of abuse - medical abuse - are so complex and bizarre. It is very understandable that the children subjected to this abuse who survive past toddler hood, often begin becoming complicit in the hoax and often become victims of Munchausen's themselves, carrying on the deception about their health status and developing the condition themselves as adults. To me, it would be a miracle for that not to happen to them.
It bothers me when I hear the media discussing this case as if it were some scummy, criminal family who were together in on a scam to defraud the public. I think that's a reductivist understanding of this case.
To me, Gypsy is not a typical con artist. She is instead, a tragically abused person who was twisted into doing the only thing she knew how.
I do not hold her culpable as I would most others who defraud and murder. She is not, or example, like these people-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lion-convincing-son-named-Giorgio-Armani.html. This case is nothing like that one.
Gypsy was created by her mother. DeeDee created a monster and then lost control of the monster who turned on her and destroyed her creator.