Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

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  • #81
Just thinking to myself......If GB & NG had to take all the "donation money" out of the safe in order to pay for their return trip back to WI, how did NG have the money to get to MO? He didn't have a job or did he? Did Gypsy stage the break in that supposedly occurred prior to this circus in order to get NG to MO? And had he previously been to their house? I guess she could've given him directions, but not on a 3rd grade level, hell my 7th graders can't give someone directions to our house!! Just say'n.....
 
  • #82
someone had shown a photo of Gypsy with shading on her neck, possibly bruises.
Now do we know if anyone ever saw bruising on her?
I am wondering if DD was getting more abusive with G?
Mental, verbal and physical?
Was there a huge fight the night before? with or about the boyfriend?
Going to expose DD???

When the bruises were first mentioned my first thought was the bruises might be a result of GB & NG's sexual encounters because that would fit with the domination thing they claimed to be into, but who knows? It could be from DD, might explain why NG came to the rescue in the middle of the week vs coming for a visit on a weekend or something. Just speculation of course.
 
  • #83
Just thinking to myself......If GB & NG had to take all the "donation money" out of the safe in order to pay for their return trip back to WI, how did NG have the money to get to MO? He didn't have a job or did he? Did Gypsy stage the break in that supposedly occurred prior to this circus in order to get NG to MO? And had he previously been to their house? I guess she could've given him directions, but not on a 3rd grade level, hell my 7th graders can't give someone directions to our house!! Just say'n.....

Did he take a cab. Or bus then cab or what. At first i thought he had a car.

Btw moms wanting her daughter to look and act like a invalid all her life was no match when Gypsy started watching shows like Keeping Up with The Kardashians
or Love and Hip Hop.

Lol. Tv is very influential these days.
 
  • #84
Just because he somehow came up with the money to get there, it doesn't mean he had the money for the both of them to return. As for how he got there, all she had to give him was the address, google maps would have done the rest. We know he was internet savvy b/c they met on the internet.

ETA We also don't know that he came there with murder in mind. Perhaps he just came for a visit and due to Mommie Dreadful's response to him, they came up with the plan to murder.
 
  • #85
BBM

You've expressed perfectly the moral and legal dilemma this case presents. I think most of us have been struggling with this. Right now, with the limited amount we know, I believe that society needs to be protected from both of them and they both need help. I also believe that they need to (learn to) take responsibility for their actions in the process. They took a life, and IMO, even if society understands and sympathizes with the reasons, they can't just go free. Dee was apparently awful, but Gypsy had no legal or moral right right to impose a death sentence, even though I understand she may have felt it was her only escape. Of course, Gypsy probably has not been taught society's moral standards, but she has to be held to them nonetheless and hopefully rehabilitated IMO. What a mess!!

You read my mind as I was just going to post about rights and a court of law after reading many 'she got what she deserved' comments.
No matter how awful DeeDee was, Gypsy didn't have the right to have her killed. This is why we have laws and courts to handle these types of abuses.
No one can tell me that Gypsy didn't know people would help her. Most of her life she has seen the kindnesses that people can and will give.
At this point we don't even know for a fact why she felt the need to have her mother killed. It very well could be that greed or profit was the motive.
Didn't I read that a gold ring was found at the home of the BF?
We know they took money and my guess (since the ring was mentioned) is that it belonged to Dee Dee.
It really is sad to see people still being taken/played by the other half of the team. IMO
 
  • #86
Not buying the 3rd grade education statement. Some of her speaking videos show here as being pretty articulate. I wonder if that info that was in the newspapers earlier, that her mom probably passed on, about her speaking at universities in New Orleans was for real? I'd be very interested to know the answer to this and many other questions about Gypsy's learning opportunities and IQ.
 
  • #87
Do you all think that Gypsy's defense attorneys will do the Nurmi thing of throwing DD under the bus? For some reason, I think DD will be on trial more than Gypsy.

And would throwing DD under the bus be warranted? It wasn't in the Arias trial and I just wondered what you all thought.

My guess would be yes for throwing DD under the bus.
 
  • #88
Great post CD82. Glad to see you coming around a bit. :)

Now take your point 2, "Gypsy being slowly brainwashed/manipulated to where she didn't even realize it was wrong" one step further. Think of it like a child being raised by wolves. Living most of their lives totally isolated from society. The only morals and values she knows were those taught to her by her mother. Yes that is stretching it, I know she had some interactions within society, but she does not have the same moral code that the rest of us have.

I agree, Gypsy is playing a charade and will lie about pretty much anything. That is how she was raised. She was taught it is OK to lie. It is her "norm". No, DeeDee did not deserve to be stabbed to death, but Gypsy might have seen it as her only way out.

(I haven't read all the posts in this thread yet, so my apologies if someone has already said this.) Your post helped me recall what's been at the edge of my memory since I first heard of this situation - the movie Nell, where Jodie Foster plays a woman raised out in the woods by her mother. Her mother had had a stroke, so she spoke with a slur, so Nell spoke with a slur because that's all she knew. Liam Neesan (I'm spelling that wrong, I'm sure) was also in it. It was a really good movie and I suspect parallels this situation in many ways, except for the complete isolation. Gyspy wasn't completely isolated, but she might as well have been considering that she couldn't have any authentic interactions with anyone to avoid revealing the truth.
 
  • #89
With all due respect, we don't know what the family did or didn't do. Nor do we know the lengths DeeDee went to in hiding from them and from the law. She fooled a lot of people who probably wouldn't have believed her family, so don't think it's fair to lump them in with DeeDee in terms of guilt. JMO
I respectfully disagree. They were constantly in the pubic eye and traceable. And the reason I hold family accountable is because they themselves said they saw this happening before she disconnected from them. One relative even said she knew eventually Gypsy wold snap based on all the scams DeeDee was implementing. Do you think they would make statements similar to that if they didn't realize Gypsy was being used and brainwashed, possibly since birth? I guess our opinions only matter if we are on the jury at her trial. Just some food for thought.
 
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Not buying the 3rd grade education statement. Some of her speaking videos show here as being pretty articulate. I wonder if that info that was in the newspapers earlier, that her mom probably passed on, about her speaking at universities in New Orleans was for real? I'd be very interested to know the answer to this and many other questions about Gypsy's learning opportunities and IQ.

Education and IQ are different. That's why there are plenty of people in poor countries that can barely write or read, and yet can perform easily everything related to their everyday life.
 
  • #92
I respectfully disagree. They were constantly in the pubic eye and traceable. And the reason I hold family accountable is because they themselves said they saw this happening before she disconnected from them. One relative even said she knew eventually Gypsy wold snap based on all the scams DeeDee was implementing. Do you think they would make statements similar to that if they didn't realize Gypsy was being used and brainwashed, possibly since birth? I guess our opinions only matter if we are on the jury at her trial. Just some food for thought.

I understand what you are saying, but I was responding to your statement that the family "did absolutely nothing to stop it or remove her from the situation." My point was that at this point we have no way of knowing what they did or didn't do to rescue Gypsy. Yes, they say they saw what was happening at the beginning, but they haven't revealed what they did or didn't do. So because we don't know anything yet, I still do not believe that it is fair to say that they are "as guilty as the dead witch." Let's hear their story before we pile on. This is a very complex case, and from what I know about these types of mothers, it's not as easy as you seem to think to extricate a child from these situations. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. :)
 
  • #93
"During warm weather, Dee Dee and Gypsy Blancharde would have fundraising parties in which they projected movies onto the side of their house in Springfield. People would donate $1 or $5.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article25032529.html#storylink=cpy"





So the friendly movie nights that the whole neighborhood gathered for were yet another money grubbing scheme by Mommie Dreadful. It's getting harder and harder for me to have much sympathy for this woman.
 
  • #94
Hell I'd love to have one of those projector things, maybe I should have a fundraising party, it has nice & warm here in West Texas!!
 
  • #95
I have not seen this anywhere. How long was Gypsy's father in her life? The reason I ask this is on the previous page it stated this craziness with DD started when Gypsy was 5. So did the father have any influence in the early years of her life?
 
  • #96
There was a free trip to Disney World. Gypsy was honorary queen of a Mardi Gras parade. Everywhere, people poured sympathy and money on the brave little girl and her suffering mother — until this week.

“This is a tragic, tragic event surrounded by mystery and public deception,” Sheriff Jim Arnott of Greene County said at a news briefing. “We have unearthed the appearance of a long-term financial fraud scheme.”

To the outside world, Gypsy appeared frail.

“I always saw her in a wheelchair,” said Condren. “There were times when we saw her on a daily basis, when she was supposedly feeling good. She would come out and check the mail in her wheelchair. She never talked much. She had a feeding tube and everything.”

She also, apparently, had an online boyfriend in Big Bend, Wis.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article25032529.html#storylink=cpy
 
  • #97
this reads like a plot straight out of hollyweird i'm sure someone is putting pen to paper as we speak.
 
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I understand what you are saying, but I was responding to your statement that the family "did absolutely nothing to stop it or remove her from the situation." My point was that at this point we have no way of knowing what they did or didn't do to rescue Gypsy. Yes, they say they saw what was happening at the beginning, but they haven't revealed what they did or didn't do. So because we don't know anything yet, I still do not believe that it is fair to say that they are "as guilty as the dead witch." Let's hear their story before we pile on. This is a very complex case, and from what I know about these types of mothers, it's not as easy as you seem to think to extricate a child from these situations. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one. :)
:) Sounds fair.
 
  • #100

I have not seen this anywhere. How long was Gypsy's father in her life? The reason I ask this is on the previous page it stated this craziness with DD started when Gypsy was 5. So did the father have any influence in the early years of her life?
They are Facebook friends...
 
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