Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

[GigTu]

She had to know at some point that it wasn't normal or right to act and look a certain way in order to get goods and services. She should have known that by moms coaching alone. Surely she knew at some point that not everyone acted the way she and her mom did.
She could see that by watching television,using her computer,and even the limited contact she had with others. IMO

When she posted on FB "That b*tch is dead!" I think she probably thought she was doing the world a favor. She clearly knew DeeDee was no good. But after several unsuccessful attempts to get away, she saw only one way to end the farce and that's how she stopped it. Most likely she lived in a very very miniscule world and was not capable of seeing global - wide big pictures of how others handle problems, or the consequences of certain types of mistakes. She obviously thought she was going to have a future after DeeDee died and paid little to no attention to the consequences of her actions. If she isn't diagnosed with severe mental issues I will be shocked.

 

[pepelepolecat]

I've noticed that Gypsy is usually paired along with her mother when fraud is mentioned. Seems telling to me. To put it into perspective....those early vids of Gypsy talking of rainbows and puppy dogs (sarcasm) she probably would have been 16 or 17 versus the 12 or 13 age.
She was really laying it on thick too.
I think that would be a pretty decent age for anyone to know right from wrong. IMO

I think there's a difference between knowing right and wrong and having the power to break free when someone you love and trust is encouraging or demanding the wrongdoing.

 

[kimlynn]

I think there's a difference between knowing right and wrong and having the power to break free when someone you love and trust is encouraging or demanding the wrongdoing.

Good point but I wonder if she is capable of love. We know she was raised to get what she needs at any cost...or so it seems. I wonder if she took into consideration the feelings of others.

 

[kimlynn]

When she posted on FB "That b*tch is dead!" I think she probably thought she was doing the world a favor. She clearly knew DeeDee was no good. But after several unsuccessful attempts to get away, she saw only one way to end the farce and that's how she stopped it. Most likely she lived in a very very miniscule world and was not capable of seeing global - wide big pictures of how others handle problems, or the consequences of certain types of mistakes. She obviously thought she was going to have a future after DeeDee died and paid little to no attention to the consequences of her actions. If she isn't diagnosed with severe mental issues I will be shocked.

So you think Gypsy thought she was doing good ( a heroic action almost) killing off the evil in the world? Hmmm well that is an interesting thought.
I do agree that there was an almost childlike thought process after the murder. I do think they thought they would get away with it and live happily ever after.
I'm not sure what will be found as far as mental health but I'm anxious to find out her status. IMO

 

[Lilibet]

These two two quotes help to illustrate what is so difficult about this case.

I think there's a difference between knowing right and wrong and having the power to break free when someone you love and trust is encouraging or demanding the wrongdoing.

^^^^ Is Gypsy a victim?

Good point but I wonder if she is capable of love. We know she was raised to get what she needs at any cost...or so it seems. I wonder if she took into consideration the feelings of others.

^^^^ Or is she a sociopath/psychopath (which is often hereditary)? Or both?

One could make a strong case for all three options, but we don't know at this point. And we may never know. I don't think I've ever seen a more complex case.

 

[jjenny]

Gypsy is tiny. Five feet tall, 99 lb.
Age listed as 23.

 

[Eileen730]

Good point but I wonder if she is capable of love. We know she was raised to get what she needs at any cost...or so it seems. I wonder if she took into consideration the feelings of others.

Feelings?
Raised to get what she needs?
what did she need that she got?
As I see it she was robbed of her childhood by her own mother. As for feelings I think she was dead inside.

she lived the way her mother raised her! Alone!


Another thing maybe she tried to get her mother to stop and mom wouldn't.

 

[klily444]

News over on the AJ Hadsell thread

 

[jjenny]

Feelings?
Raised to get what she needs?
what did she need that she got?
As I see it she was robbed of her childhood by her own mother. As for feelings I think she was dead inside.

she lived the way her mother raised her! Alone!


Another thing maybe she tried to get her mother to stop and mom wouldn't.

I don't have any doubt she would prefer if her mother worked and she herself had a normal childhood, including having friends and going to school.

 

[Lulu14]

At some point she has to take some responsibility for her part in the scams and the murder of her mother. At least for her part in the scams after the age of 18. The only way I can see her being absolved is if she is found to have diminished capacity. I'm not sure how that will play out because she seemed pretty vocal and intelligent in the few clips that I've seen.
As to why no one acted on her behalf or figured it out....No idea but I wish they had. IMO

You are blaming the victim now. She is no different than children raised in a cult. All of her attempts at escaping were dealt with swiftly by DD, whom I don't see shying away from smacking Gypsy around. The one investigation into their household came out empty.

And then, even if she were strong enough to tell the world it was a scam, it still would have been hard for her. She is an adult with no skills or education, with a mother in jail and no place to go. Add to that becoming a pariah in her city. Nowhere to go, no other solution but the one she found ...

 

[DexterMorgan]

You are blaming the victim now. She is no different than children raised in a cult. All of her attempts at escaping were dealt with swiftly by DD, whom I don't see shying away from smacking Gypsy around. The one investigation into their household came out empty.

And then, even if she were strong enough to tell the world it was a scam, it still would have been hard for her. She is an adult with no skills or education, with a mother in jail and no place to go. Add to that becoming a pariah in her city. Nowhere to go, no other solution but the one she found ...

 

[kimlynn]

Feelings?
Raised to get what she needs?
what did she need that she got?
As I see it she was robbed of her childhood by her own mother. As for feelings I think she was dead inside.

she lived the way her mother raised her! Alone!


Another thing maybe she tried to get her mother to stop and mom wouldn't.

Need wasn't the best word usage on my part. A better choice would have been she was raised to benefit or gain profit from others. This is why I wondered if she was capable of true emotions or feeling for others because her contacts with others were an act.
Nothing was ever genuine.
I wouldn't doubt that she and Dee Dee may have went inside their home and laughed with glee about what they had pulled off and how gullible people were.
People that think others are there for their use aren't usually people that have caring for their fellow human beings.
There were money donations and trips which I'm sure benefited both Gypsy and Dee Dee. IMO

 

[bluesneakers]

You are blaming the victim now. She is no different than children raised in a cult. All of her attempts at escaping were dealt with swiftly by DD, whom I don't see shying away from smacking Gypsy around. The one investigation into their household came out empty.

And then, even if she were strong enough to tell the world it was a scam, it still would have been hard for her. She is an adult with no skills or education, with a mother in jail and no place to go. Add to that becoming a pariah in her city. Nowhere to go, no other solution but the one she found ...

That's how I see it too. This whole time I've been viewing Gypsy as a victim of abuse. If she'd been physically and emotionally abused this entire time, and killed her abuser in an attempt to break free would we see it differently? Is making her sick any different from beating her? I don't think what she did was right, but we don't know what was going on in that house.

 

[wfgodot]

It takes Auden's lines (from 'September 1, 1939') a bit out of their original context, but nevertheless the lines

I and the public know
What all schoolchildren learn,
Those to whom evil is done
Do evil in return.

do provide a rather clear view of what we think perhaps took place here.

 

[kimlynn]

You are blaming the victim now. She is no different than children raised in a cult. All of her attempts at escaping were dealt with swiftly by DD, whom I don't see shying away from smacking Gypsy around. The one investigation into their household came out empty.

And then, even if she were strong enough to tell the world it was a scam, it still would have been hard for her. She is an adult with no skills or education, with a mother in jail and no place to go. Add to that becoming a pariah in her city. Nowhere to go, no other solution but the one she found ...

*shaking head* The victim right now is DB. The irony is that this thread seems to have mostly missed the fact that it's unjust to stab another because you have issues with them.
If we all took matters into our own hands we would have no need for the court of law.
I'm not blaming "the victim" I'm asking that she be held accountable. IMO

 

[Eileen730]

I don't have any doubt she would prefer if her mother worked and she herself had a normal childhood, including having friends and going to school.

I cant imagine her life!

 

[kimlynn]

That's how I see it too. This whole time I've been viewing Gypsy as a victim of abuse. If she'd been physically and emotionally abused this entire time, and killed her abuser in an attempt to break free would we see it differently? Is making her sick any different from beating her? I don't think what she did was right, but we don't know what was going on in that house.

That's just it. We don't know. I think some are close to making Gypsy this heroic figure...a slayer of dragons! Maybe that's where the swords come in.

 

[Lulu14]

*shaking head* The victim right now is DB. The irony is that this thread seems to have mostly missed the fact that it's unjust to stab another because you have issues with them.
If we all took matters into our own hands we would have no need for the court of law.
I'm not blaming "the victim" I'm asking that she be held accountable. IMO

I am a bit closer to the Old Testament God than to Jesus. For me, DD was a monster that was rightfully put down. Karma caught up to her in this life time.

 

[Eileen730]

don't u all think Mom Told Gypsy that they cant get off this Merry Go Round because they had gone to far with the scam. That Dee Dee would most certainly go to jail and Gypsy along with her if she told.

All Dee Dee had to do was move! Go to another state and start over.
IMO she was the one comfortable with the situation. her daughter needed to get out.

I just cant imagine having to keep up that charade. Never just walking out the door!

She Confessed to her crime and im sure she will serve time.
But which jail was worse?
The one with DeeDee or this one?

 

[musicaljoke]

That's just it. We don't know. I think some are close to making Gypsy this heroic figure...a slayer of dragons! Maybe that's where the swords come in.

Dee-Dee's mother might have been a controlling, narcissistic abuser too (or maybe not). Some believe that the personality disorder is hereditary - a genetic link.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/9741.php