Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

[MandaRose]

So do you expect the friend to teach Gypsy right from wrong? When her own mother is telling her otherwise?

No, I'm trying to say that Dee Dee wasn't the only influence on Gypsy's life. Had she been raised off the grid in a cabin in the woods and had never read a book, or seen tv/movies, etc., then I'd buy that Dee Dee could make Gypsy think whatever she wanted about right and wrong. But Gypsy did have all those views into the world, so she had at least some view into normal social right/wrong.

 

[jjenny]

She did say she was Catholic so I wonder if she went to Sunday School or church.

Even if she did, if her mother was telling her otherwise and using her to scam people, that's gotta result in one confused individual.

 

[jjenny]

No, I'm trying to say that Dee Dee wasn't the only influence on Gypsy's life. Had she been raised off the grid in a cabin in the woods and had never read a book, or seen tv/movies, etc., then I'd buy that Dee Dee could make Gypsy think whatever she wanted about right and wrong. But Gypsy did have all those views into the world, so she had at least some view into normal social right/wrong.

World that viewed Gypsy as disabled and mentally retarded.

 

[human]

At some point, Dede had to tell Gypsy to play the part.

According to relatives, she was in a wheelchair, but got up to jump on a trampoline. She scampered back when mother came..

How did Dede get Gypsy to cooperate?

Gypsy knows kids can run, jump and play. She does not get to. There is no way that Gypsy did not question this.

Obviously, Gypsy was walking around or her muscles would be atrophied.

What did Mommie Dearest tell her to get her to comply?

And her escape to the "pedofile". Did she walk? How did she get to him?

 

[jjenny]

At some point, Dede had to tell Gypsy to play the part.

According to relatives, she was in a wheelchair, but got up to jump on a trampoline. She scampered back when mother came..

How did Dede get Gypsy to cooperate?

Gypsy knows kids can run, jump and play. She does not get to. There is no way that Gypsy did not question this.

Obviously, Gypsy was walking around or her muscles would be atrophied.

What did Mommie Dearest tell her to get her to comply?

And her escape to the "pedofile". Did she walk? How did she get to him?

How do people get their children to do what they want them to do? If mother tells her she has to be in wheelchair from the time she was young, what should we expect her to do? Aren't children expected to listen to their parents, at least if they are considered well behaved?

 

[gitana1]

She didn't just walk way. Obviously she had no palce to go, no skills, no education. She did the only thing she could to get away, she found a man to "rescue her." Sounds like she has been looking for years.
I am also not sure how she was supposed to become old enough to know better, when mother has been allegedly training her for years, from very erly age, to scam people. Does she just magially realize it's wrong when she turns 18?
Who was supposed to teach her right from wrong?
Society clearly failed her.

Right. And I think that psychologically, she may have been unable to understand what her mother had done to her, that she wasn't ill at all, or that a fraud was being perpetrated.

This young woman was made to be sick by a very disturbed person and was brainwashed to believe she was ill. Her mother fooled various communities and apparently medical professionals. Yet the child she isolated, raised to be sick and raised in a suffocatingly enmeshed relationship, is supposed to magically grow to an adult who understands the world, totally understands what happened to her, knows right from wrong and makes a conscious decision to scam people? IMO, impossible.

To to me this is like the case of the young woman recently who had been molested, abused and locked away for years and who shot her brother dead to escape. I think Gyspy has a great defense- insanity and/or incredible mitigators. But it will take experienced experts to unravel this and make a jury understand.

 

[Lulu14]

No, I'm trying to say that Dee Dee wasn't the only influence on Gypsy's life. Had she been raised off the grid in a cabin in the woods and had never read a book, or seen tv/movies, etc., then I'd buy that Dee Dee could make Gypsy think whatever she wanted about right and wrong. But Gypsy did have all those views into the world, so she had at least some view into normal social right/wrong.

No, she was the dominating influence. Mom was doing whatever she wanted to Gypsy and was tricking the entire world. So, how could the world teach the daughter right from wrong, when it didn't know that itself (being conned by DD, that is).

 

[MandaRose]

I'm not saying Gypsy is a normal person with normal social values. I just reject the idea that she only had Dee Dee's word to go on for what is right and what is wrong. I've agreed that her perception of right and wrong is definitely skewed and that Dee Dee was abusive.

At the absolute minimum, Gypsy knew that she wasn't confined to a wheelchair. The story about the trampoline and her lack of muscle atrophy alone prove that she knew she could walk and that she knew Dee Dee was lying about that part of it. She also knew that Dee Dee was shaving her head (unless Dee Dee knocked her unconscious in order to do it, which I wouldn't put past her). The rest could have very well all been pulled over Gypsy's eyes.

 

[jjenny]

She knew she didn't need a wheelchair but she was told she had to stay in it. If she, from a very early age, was made to behave a certain way, why do we except that she magically will figure out it's wrong once she turns an adult.
As far as my opinion goes, authorities failed her. Where were they when Gypsy was a child? They had an opportunity to investigate medical fraud back in 2009, when it was reported to them, but obviously did nothing. And now they want to blame Gypsy for it?

 

[shana]

Gypsy Blancharde makes 1st appearance in Greene County court

Also on Monday morning, Godejohn appeared in a Waukesha County courtroom and waived his right to extradition... During the hearing, he told a judge that he is diagnosed with Asperger syndrome and is not taking medication.

 

[Kadoober]

I find myself thinking about the Stephen King novel Carrie when I read about Gypsy and DeeDee.
Carrie was a capable, intelligent girl, who was crippled by her mothers obsessions. Emotionally crippled. She was allowed out into the world, but wasn't ever allowed to really be a part of it. She was shackled by her mothers madness. No boys. No sleepovers. No red clothing. None of the knowledge imparted by her mother that should have been given to her so she had the means to make it in the world. Carrie towed the line because a) she loved her mother, in spite of it all, and she was all she had in the world, and b) a fear of hell.

I can imagine DeeDee making very, very sure that Gypsy knew from an early age that it was Gypsy and DeeDee against the world, that everyone else was an outsider, no matter how friendly they were, or how giving they were. And Gypsy bought it, for years and years, because why wouldn't she? This was all she knew! Until she met this guy online, that let her know there WAS more, that what she had been raised to believe was NOT all there was...

And that was the beginning of the end of it.

 

[shana]

Warrant: Gypsy, Godejohn planned killing on dating website

Authorities seized 26 files of communication last week between Gypsy and Godejohn on the website ChristianDatingForFree.com.

 

[human]

How do people get their children to do what they want them to do? If mother tells her she has to be in wheelchair from the time she was young, what should we expect her to do? Aren't children expected to listen to their parents, at least if they are considered well behaved?

Ha ha. Children do not listen to their parents. Some parents think that their children listen, but they would be wrong.

Just look how Gyosy listened when she jumped on the trampoline.

 

[jjenny]

Ha ha. Children do not listen to their parents. Some parents think that their children listen, but they would be wrong.

Just look how Gyosy listened when she jumped on the trampoline.

She only jumped when mother wasn't around. When mother showed up, she collapsed and crawled to her chair.

 

[Kadoober]

Ha ha. Children do not listen to their parents. Some parents think that their children listen, but they would be wrong.

Just look how Gyosy listened when she jumped on the trampoline.

I can't help but wonder what the consequences were for those few minutes of carefree childhood. And if they were severe enough that Gypsy became compliant.
I'll bet it put a stop to Gypsy being left alone with able bodied kids.

 

[atmosphere]

http://www.news-leader.com/story/ne...ncharde-pleads-guilty-mothers-death/29457705/
So.... Gypsy's father attended Monday's court appearance but declined to comment.

 

[kimlynn]

Why? Are they going to say it was all him?

Not sure how that would be granted since they are both charged with murder for the same crime. IMO

 

[kimlynn]

Warrant: Gypsy, Godejohn planned killing on dating website

Authorities seized 26 files of communication last week between Gypsy and Godejohn on the website ChristianDatingForFree.com.

Lovely. Can't wait to read those communications. IMO

 

[GigTu]

People talk about Gypsy like she was raised in a cave in the woods with zero contact with the human race. She watched hours upon hours of tv and movies and listened to the radio and saw the news and was all over the internet and had at least one friend that we know of.

I'm specifically asking about the bolded sentence. How do you know this? Maybe she was only ever allowed to watch Disney movies, her entire life. Maybe too, she started sneaking on the internet and was attracted to items that represented the exact opposite of Disney. Maybe she stumbled upon things that stimulated her mind and arroused her loins, and those are the only directions she pursued. You, me, none of us has ANY idea what went on behind those closed doors and dark windows.

If we are going to speculate in such a way to only damm her, then those speculations carry no credibility. One must be open minded, versatile, and in this case 'creative' when pursuing what we fantasize to be the truth.

 

[human]

She only jumped when mother wasn't around. When mother showed up, she collapsed and crawled to her chair.

Yup. How often I heard, "My child would never.......".

It is hard to totally control another person.

They will simply sneak and be more clever in what they want to do.