Found Deceased MO - Clauddinnea 'Dee Dee' Blancharde, 48, Springfield, 10 June 2015 - #2 *Arrests*

[loveisthemovement]

jjenny this person had her mother murdered ok.

and where have I Blamed a child for being abused?

We don't know if she was abused. Mom devised a scam and its very possible her daughter went along with it... without abusing her!

Hey Gypsy honey this is what were gonna do now! I have this plan just do as I say and we will be set for life I promise ya!

Ok Momma!

Its very possible she conned her own daughter but as for abuse Im not so sure.

don't attack me cause I don't buy the abuse angle as of yet.
she seemed perfectly competent if you ask me!

Seriously? She was a child. This was definitely abuse. I am not condoning what Gypsy did but come on....

 

[human]

So at age 8 Gypsy is in a wheelchair. Her head is shaved because she has fake leukemia.

An 8 year old child can be held accountable? The other kids are jumping on a trampoline. Gypsy gets out of her wheelchair and jumps.

I am so sure any child would rather be in a wheelchair than running, jumping and having fun with other kids.

Adults get Stockholm syndrome. It is thought a little child can have the understanding of what is happening to her?

Deedee did what abusers do. She moved Gypsy away from family and isolated her. Grown women succumb to abusers but Gypsy should have known better?

 

[human]

From the posting it sounds like Gypsy didn't know he was a pedo until he started getting "handy" Handy was the term used by Gypsy.
I think in those few instances DB was looking out for the welfare of Gypsy.
I don't think this is an all black or white situation.
I agree that DB made use of GB and it was abusive,but I don't think what she did merited a brutal death sentence meted out by Gypsy. IMO

I think Deedee was looking out for the welfare of Deedee. I hardly believe someone who could do what Deedee did to Gypsy cares one bit about her child.

Just like pimps. They take care of their money makers

 

[kimlynn]

I think Deedee was looking out for the welfare of Deedee. I hardly believe someone who could do what Deedee did to Gypsy cares one bit about her child.

Just like pimps. They take care of their money makers

You could be right. Maybe I just want to think there was some caring involved on the part of DB. I would like to think we might know but all we are going to hear is what comes from GB and I'm not sure we can trust that either.
So I'm just going to hold on to my thought that maybe there was some affection/love until we know more. I think it's possible. IMO

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I've popped in and out of this thread and I'm shocked every time to see how much bitterness there is towards Gypsy.

How about thinking of this in a different perspective. What if the scam had been discovered when Gypsy was, say, 15? EVERYONE here would be advocating for the harshest punishment for Dee Dee for the years of abuse heaped on the child, and there would be nothing but compassion for Gypsy.

Or, what if Gypsy had committed suicide and then all this came out? Again, people would be holding Dee Dee accountable and urging strong punishment for justice.

Instead, this poor girl's warped and damaged mind, after other unsuccessful attempts at escape, decided murder was her only option. But we're supposed to have sympathy for Dee Dee now? No, she didn't deserve to die in such a way, but she did deserve punishment for what she's done all these years. If she was so good she fooled many, many doctors and other people, you better believe she had Gypsy convinced that she better not cross her. I'd be willing to bet the phrase "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it" probably crossed her lips more than once. And once Gypsy reached a certain age. I bet Dee Dee told her if she reported Dee Dee that Dee Dee would say it was all Gypsy's idea and she'd be the one in trouble, and Gypsy believed her because she'd seen her mother convince hundreds of people of her lies. Not to mention Gypsy had to have had an unbelievably warped sense of reality. Gypsy's brain was likely exposed to a lot of chemicals from the meds her mom fraudulently got her on, and think of how badly damaged her brain probably is from the toxic effects of that. Medications are chosen in most cases because the risks outweigh the benefits, but in this case there was NO benefit to Gypsy - only to her crazy mother who could keep perpetuating this insane hoax.

 

[kimlynn]

I've popped in and out of this thread and I'm shocked every time to see how much bitterness there is towards Gypsy.

How about thinking of this in a different perspective. What if the scam had been discovered when Gypsy was, say, 15? EVERYONE here would be advocating for the harshest punishment for Dee Dee for the years of abuse heaped on the child, and there would be nothing but compassion for Gypsy.

Or, what if Gypsy had committed suicide and then all this came out? Again, people would be holding Dee Dee accountable and urging strong punishment for justice.

Instead, this poor girl's warped and damaged mind, after other unsuccessful attempts at escape, decided murder was her only option. But we're supposed to have sympathy for Dee Dee now? No, she didn't deserve to die in such a way, but she did deserve punishment for what she's done all these years. If she was so good she fooled many, many doctors and other people, you better believe she had Gypsy convinced that she better not cross her. I'd be willing to bet the phrase "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it" probably crossed her lips more than once. And once Gypsy reached a certain age. I bet Dee Dee told her if she reported Dee Dee that Dee Dee would say it was all Gypsy's idea and she'd be the one in trouble, and Gypsy believed her because she'd seen her mother convince hundreds of people of her lies. Not to mention Gypsy had to have had an unbelievably warped sense of reality. Gypsy's brain was likely exposed to a lot of chemicals from the meds her mom fraudulently got her on, and think of how badly damaged her brain probably is from the toxic effects of that. Medications are chosen in most cases because the risks outweigh the benefits, but in this case there was NO benefit to Gypsy - only to her crazy mother who could keep perpetuating this insane hoax.

I'm not so sure that it's bitterness against GB,but just wanting her held accountable for the murder she planned and had NG commit. And IMO that would only be if she is found to have had no diminished mental capacity at the time.
For sure DB should have been charged for her fraudulent actions and the use of her child to commit those actions.But no one knew or acted on their belief that there was scamming.
Regarding the medications....I'm not sure if it was ever confirmed that meds given (seizure meds) were not needed by Gypsy. At this time all we know via LE is that she can walk but that doesn't mean she is well otherwise.
I guess my question would be would you rather go to jail or be on probation for fraud (Gypsy) or go to prison for murder. I think I would fear prison if I were Gypsy in that situation.

 

[bluesneakers]

I'm not so sure that it's bitterness against GB,but just wanting her held accountable for the murder she planned and had NG commit. And IMO that would only be if she is found to have had no diminished mental capacity at the time.
For sure DB should have been charged for her fraudulent actions and the use of her child to commit those actions.But no one knew or acted on their belief that there was scamming.
Regarding the medications....I'm not sure if it was ever confirmed that meds given (seizure meds) were not needed by Gypsy. At this time all we know via LE is that she can walk but that doesn't mean she is well otherwise.
I guess my question would be would you rather go to jail or be on probation for fraud (Gypsy) or go to prison for murder. I think I would fear prison if I were Gypsy in that situation.

Imo this shows how desperate Gypsy was. If she understood what she was doing she had to know she could end up in prison, and still that was a better option than staying with her mother. What if Gypsy figured out her mother might kill her? I would rather do whatever it took to get away from her.

I agree we can't be sure about what meds she might have taken, but I'm assuming doctors oversaw it or tested her at times. What upsets me the most is I suspect DD was inflicting some of Gypsy's injuries and illness. I read a few articles about mothers who were found guilty of murder in Munchausen's/malingering cases, and 10% of victims of this kind of abuse die. To me that statistic shocking and frightening.

 

[GigTu]

Imo this shows how desperate Gypsy was. If she understood what she was doing she had to know she could end up in prison, and still that was a better option than staying with her mother. What if Gypsy figured out her mother might kill her? I would rather do whatever it took to get away from her.

I agree we can't be sure about what meds she might have taken, but I'm assuming doctors oversaw it or tested her at times. What upsets me the most is I suspect DD was inflicting some of Gypsy's injuries and illness. I read a few articles about mothers who were found guilty of murder in Munchausen's/malingering cases, and 10% of victims of this kind of abuse die. To me that statistic shocking and frightening.

This. 100%

 

[jjenny]

You could be right. Maybe I just want to think there was some caring involved on the part of DB. I would like to think we might know but all we are going to hear is what comes from GB and I'm not sure we can trust that either.
So I'm just going to hold on to my thought that maybe there was some affection/love until we know more. I think it's possible. IMO

In 2011, (when Gypsy run away with an older guy), Gypsy was already a legal adult. So, really, her mother had no right to dictate that Gypsy couldn't be on her own with some guy. And this guy wouldn't qualify as a pedophile, because Gypsy was legally an adult.

 

[GigTu]

In 2011, (when Gypsy run away with an older guy), Gypsy was already a legal adult. So, really, her mother had no right to dictate that Gypsy couldn't be on her own with some guy. And they guy wouldn't qualify as a pedophile, because Gypsy was legally an adult.

DeeDee owned Gypsy. Gypsy was nothing more than property and a means to income.

Think about what happens when a dog runs away from an abusive owner who's yelling for it to come back. When they finally catch it, the dog gets beat. I will bet that metaphor describes Gypsys's repercussions for running away pretty well.

 

[human]

I'm not so sure that it's bitterness against GB,but just wanting her held accountable for the murder she planned and had NG commit. And IMO that would only be if she is found to have had no diminished mental capacity at the time.
For sure DB should have been charged for her fraudulent actions and the use of her child to commit those actions.But no one knew or acted on their belief that there was scamming.
Regarding the medications....I'm not sure if it was ever confirmed that meds given (seizure meds) were not needed by Gypsy. At this time all we know via LE is that she can walk but that doesn't mean she is well otherwise.
I guess my question would be would you rather go to jail or be on probation for fraud (Gypsy) or go to prison for murder. I think I would fear prison if I were Gypsy in that situation.

And Gypsy would understand the nuances of laws because?

 

[jjenny]

From the posting it sounds like Gypsy didn't know he was a pedo until he started getting "handy" Handy was the term used by Gypsy.
I think in those few instances DB was looking out for the welfare of Gypsy.
I don't think this is an all black or white situation.
I agree that DB made use of GB and it was abusive,but I don't think what she did merited a brutal death sentence meted out by Gypsy. IMO

Gypsy was already an adult in 2011. The guy therefore wouldn't qualify as a "pedo." I am not sure how DB was looking out for welfare of her adult daughter, except DB wanted people to treat Gypsy as if she was 7 years old. But Gypsy was already an adult, considering it has been confirmed Gypsy was born in 1991.

 

[jjenny]

I'm not so sure that it's bitterness against GB,but just wanting her held accountable for the murder she planned and had NG commit. And IMO that would only be if she is found to have had no diminished mental capacity at the time.
For sure DB should have been charged for her fraudulent actions and the use of her child to commit those actions.But no one knew or acted on their belief that there was scamming.
Regarding the medications....I'm not sure if it was ever confirmed that meds given (seizure meds) were not needed by Gypsy. At this time all we know via LE is that she can walk but that doesn't mean she is well otherwise.
I guess my question would be would you rather go to jail or be on probation for fraud (Gypsy) or go to prison for murder. I think I would fear prison if I were Gypsy in that situation.

We know that Gypsy can walk, talk, doesn't seen to need glasses ( one would think if she needed glasses, jail would allow her to keep them on) and can look with a normal expression (very different from the one she had in photos of her with Dee Dee). And her hair is growing back normally.

 

[kimlynn]

In 2011, (when Gypsy run away with an older guy), Gypsy was already a legal adult. So, really, her mother had no right to dictate that Gypsy couldn't be on her own with some guy. And this guy wouldn't qualify as a pedophile, because Gypsy was legally an adult.

True there was no legal right. Gypsy could do whatever she pleased as a legal adult. If you read the posting from Gypsy to her friend in 2011,you would see that Gypsy called the guy a pedo and said she got scared when he got "handy"
So Gypsy was pretending in a posting to friend to to be a minor in (2011) by calling this guy a pedo (think of this later if Gypsy testifies)
Now assuming Gypsy has any issues with mental development can you see why DB may have acted?
Who do you think GB called when she became scared?
Can you at least admit DB had a point in her feelings regarding Godejohn as a bf for her daughter? IMO

 

[pepelepolecat]

IMO it's pretty evil to stab a person multiple times while she is on her stomach sleeping and unable to mount a defense due to sleeping position. All they had to do was walk away. IMO

Disclaimer: I am NOT saying DB deserved to be murdered. She did not. No one deserves that. And I agree that murder is evil.

But "all they had to do was walk away" is simplistic, imo. Yes, that's "all" she had to do, but how difficult was that for her? Who did she have to turn to? Did she know for a fact that her father and stepmother would be there for her? Did she know any of her extended family well enough to turn to them? Did she know that she could turn to a battered women's shelter? She couldn't provide for herself. Her education, imo, was poor in quality, and she may not have had a high school degree (home school laws vary from state to state). Did she have the skills and knowledge to get an apartment? Did she even have any ID? Look how hard Alecia Pennington has had to fight just to prove she even exists because her parents withheld all her documents. Maybe ID documents were part of what was in that safe of DBs.

As someone who had to leave an unhealthy family and move into a world I knew nothing of at a younger age than Gypsy, I can say that "just leaving" can be one of the hardest things one will ever do. I had a job, which was one huge step ahead of GB, but I had to squirrel away money and eventually find an apartment and move out ... all without my parents knowing. And I had to leave my parents, my friends, my church, everyone and thing I'd ever known behind. Do you have any idea how hard that can be? I might have had people I could have turned to (looking back two decades later, I can say I definitely did), but I didn't know who or how to reach out for help at that time. I had no safety net. When most kids leave home, they know they have that soft place to land if anything goes wrong. GB may have known (or believed) she had no soft place and may have even had a world of hurt waiting her return.

I am unable to look at this through a lens of normal family, close extended family, typical upbringing, happy childhood. I think if GB had had the benefit of any of those things, she could easily have "just walked away." If she had the isolated, possibly abusive upbringing that I strongly suspect she did, then no, "walking away" is nowhere near easy. She did not have to turn to murder and should not have turned to murder -- that's something you can never take back, never undo. But I *can understand how she may have gotten to that point of thinking it was her only escape.

I'm sorry for writing a book. I just keep seeing "why couldn't they leave," and having btdt, I can say it's almost never that easy. (Abused adult women have far more resources than an older teen/young adult, and they are just as likely to have a hard time leaving their abusers).

 

[Tealgrove]

I've popped in and out of this thread and I'm shocked every time to see how much bitterness there is towards Gypsy.

How about thinking of this in a different perspective. What if the scam had been discovered when Gypsy was, say, 15? EVERYONE here would be advocating for the harshest punishment for Dee Dee for the years of abuse heaped on the child, and there would be nothing but compassion for Gypsy.

Or, what if Gypsy had committed suicide and then all this came out? Again, people would be holding Dee Dee accountable and urging strong punishment for justice.

Instead, this poor girl's warped and damaged mind, after other unsuccessful attempts at escape, decided murder was her only option. But we're supposed to have sympathy for Dee Dee now? No, she didn't deserve to die in such a way, but she did deserve punishment for what she's done all these years. If she was so good she fooled many, many doctors and other people, you better believe she had Gypsy convinced that she better not cross her. I'd be willing to bet the phrase "I brought you into this world and I can take you out of it" probably crossed her lips more than once. And once Gypsy reached a certain age. I bet Dee Dee told her if she reported Dee Dee that Dee Dee would say it was all Gypsy's idea and she'd be the one in trouble, and Gypsy believed her because she'd seen her mother convince hundreds of people of her lies. Not to mention Gypsy had to have had an unbelievably warped sense of reality. Gypsy's brain was likely exposed to a lot of chemicals from the meds her mom fraudulently got her on, and think of how badly damaged her brain probably is from the toxic effects of that. Medications are chosen in most cases because the risks outweigh the benefits, but in this case there was NO benefit to Gypsy - only to her crazy mother who could keep perpetuating this insane hoax.

BINGO!!!!!!! ^^^^^THIS!!!! Thank you!

I have been watching this thread and was just getting ready to jump in because although I agree that what Gypsy did was wrong and IT WAS WRONG but I understand why she did it. There are some extraordinary circumstances at play here folks and it is NOT BLACK AND WHITE and to pretend it's an "open and shut" case is irresponsible.

There is so much more that has gone on behind closed doors that we have no knowledge of that to sit here and pontificate about what is right and what is wrong is ludicrous.

Gypsy will have her day in court and she will be judged and we will see what comes of it.

Sorry guys...I couldn't scroll and roll anymore.

 

[Eileen730]

I'm not so sure that it's bitterness against GB,but just wanting her held accountable for the murder she planned and had NG commit. And IMO that would only be if she is found to have had no diminished mental capacity at the time.
For sure DB should have been charged for her fraudulent actions and the use of her child to commit those actions.But no one knew or acted on their belief that there was scamming.
Regarding the medications....I'm not sure if it was ever confirmed that meds given (seizure meds) were not needed by Gypsy. At this time all we know via LE is that she can walk but that doesn't mean she is well otherwise.
I guess my question would be would you rather go to jail or be on probation for fraud (Gypsy) or go to prison for murder. I think I would fear prison if I were Gypsy in that situation.

Exactly!
Its not bitterness.
I for one want to hear more of this story.
She orchestrated the murder of her mother! She is just as guilty as NG.
I don't think she should just walk scott free and I have not heard her lawyer say she was abused or needs psychiatric help from professionals. Have not seen LE sy she needs evaluations... All I ever heard LE say was she walks fine and can even carry her own bags.

sorry If I don't agree with many of u but ......I need more info!

and its all JMO

 

[Stunned]

One of the many things I don't understand is the S&M looking picture of Gypsy. Who ordered the outfit, who and how did they pay for it, how did it get into the house and who took the picture? Was this the next scam?

 

[kimlynn]

Disclaimer: I am NOT saying DB deserved to be murdered. She did not. No one deserves that. And I agree that murder is evil.

But "all they had to do was walk away" is simplistic, imo. Yes, that's "all" she had to do, but how difficult was that for her? Who did she have to turn to? Did she know for a fact that her father and stepmother would be there for her? Did she know any of her extended family well enough to turn to them? Did she know that she could turn to a battered women's shelter? She couldn't provide for herself. Her education, imo, was poor in quality, and she may not have had a high school degree (home school laws vary from state to state). Did she have the skills and knowledge to get an apartment? Did she even have any ID? Look how hard Alecia Pennington has had to fight just to prove she even exists because her parents withheld all her documents. Maybe ID documents were part of what was in that safe of DBs.

As someone who had to leave an unhealthy family and move into a world I knew nothing of at a younger age than Gypsy, I can say that "just leaving" can be one of the hardest things one will ever do. I had a job, which was one huge step ahead of GB, but I had to squirrel away money and eventually find an apartment and move out ... all without my parents knowing. And I had to leave my parents, my friends, my church, everyone and thing I'd ever known behind. Do you have any idea how hard that can be? I might have had people I could have turned to (looking back two decades later, I can say I definitely did), but I didn't know who or how to reach out for help at that time. I had no safety net. When most kids leave home, they know they have that soft place to land if anything goes wrong. GB may have known (or believed) she had no soft place and may have even had a world of hurt waiting her return.

I am unable to look at this through a lens of normal family, close extended family, typical upbringing, happy childhood. I think if GB had had the benefit of any of those things, she could easily have "just walked away." If she had the isolated, possibly abusive upbringing that I strongly suspect she did, then no, "walking away" is nowhere near easy. She did not have to turn to murder and should not have turned to murder -- that's something you can never take back, never undo. But I *can understand how she may have gotten to that point of thinking it was her only escape.

I'm sorry for writing a book. I just keep seeing "why couldn't they leave," and having btdt, I can say it's almost never that easy. (Abused adult women have far more resources than an older teen/young adult, and they are just as likely to have a hard time leaving their abusers).

Not a book at all and I appreciate you sharing your experience. In my mind Gypsy wasn't thinking ahead as far as resources. Her plan seemed to be staying with her bf and his family.
No long term thinking for her probably due to her age and lack of understanding of the world.
Point is she DID walk.
I'm really not sure what her motive was for killing her mother but I don't think it was strictly for freedom.

 

[kimlynn]

And Gypsy would understand the nuances of laws because?

You don't give her much credit. She is 23. Surely she knows murder carries a harsher penalty than fraud. IMO