MO - Grand Jury Proceedings in the shooting case of teen Michael Brown

[Minette]

OT: I was at Kroger today (it's chain grocery store for those in other parts of the country) and the EVIL store managers had set out little sample cups of some organic jalapeño flavored popcorn. OF COURSE I wouldn't think of paying $3 for a bag of popped pop corn, until I tasted it and then I did.

Useful thought: 'carp' can be anagrammed!

:floorlaugh:

 

[SStarr33]

Do we know if the tweeter is a resident in that area?

 

[krimekat]

Nasheed's? Her tweets are usually protected/hidden??

I see them & I don't even sign into Twitter

 

[reedus23]

Saw it all over twitter. First, the young lady may be stating familiarity to lend credence to her position and not really know anyone on the GJ. The post also does not say that the juror said there is not enough. Finally, the GJ is still reviewing evidence and is expected to for weeks. It wasn't a smart thing to tweet, and hopefully a juror has not breached confidentiality. The protestors would not deal well with a whole new GJ starting over.

As for King, he seems quite narcissistic on twitter and not aware of many facts or statutes, but protestors like to retweet his errors. I'd put him in the category of instigator to profit personally. He makes sure to self promote amid the rants.

I had heard rumblings of this I think it was this morning. I had hoped it would just go away and there was nothing to it. This just isn't good no matter how one looks at it. You may be right that she was just trying to be an internet big shot and really doesn't know anyone on the GJ, but its still going to understandably cast doubt over this entire GJ no matter what. A no-bill comes back and it's just the system covering up a cover up. A true-bill comes back and it's not because the evidence warranted it but rather to simply avoid the shadow of impropriety. Saying the post doesn't say the juror said it is nitpicking. The intent of the post is clear.

If by King you mean that Shawn King guy, yes, he's much like CJ. I'd be better off if I never heard of either.

 

[Lovejac]

Grand jury considering the Ferguson shooting is being investigated for misconduct


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...hooting-is-being-investigated-for-misconduct/

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I saw this go down, right before my eyes, on twitter this morning. She deleted her post in less than 2 minutes after she posted it. Within the hour, her whole profile was gone.

I personally think it's bogus, but I'm glad it's being investigated. The trouble is, is that even if it's found to be bogus, it won't matter a bit to the MB supporters. In their minds, someone on the GJ leaked info and the proceedings cannot be trusted.

As far as I'm concerned this is just another, 'set MB's memorial on fire' tactic to incite even more rage, which isn't hard to do

 

[Klood-N]

#Livestream is coming up soon in #Ferguson
3 min ago
@bassem_masri

 

[lonetraveler]

At this point in time I do not believe that the protesters will accept anything less than a "True Bill" for indictment. I do hope that the Grand Jury is not feeling intimidated into finding a "True Bill" due to fear of riots, looting and violence. I will not be surprised if the Grand Jury starts to "drag their feet" in coming to a final vote. This would not be the first time that a "jury" might feel pressured. I fail to see how a couple of minutes could result in months of investigation by a Grand Jury; there just isn't that much evidence to consider.

 

[krimekat]

Do we know if the tweeter is a resident in that area?

when trying to access the page, it says "Sorry, that pages does not exist" or whatever Twitter's message is -- either the FBI or StL County PD cut the account off after investigating (since they have been since after noon) or the Twitter acct was a fake :laugh:

honestly, when all the facts are out, it will be very telling IMHO

 

[krimekat]

There's no walking this back in the eyes of some protesters, I'm afraid. Unless OW is indicted for murder, some people will forever believe this grand jury was corrupt. IMO

I will always believe the Gentle Giant assaulted the owner of the Ferguson Market

 

[reedus23]

There's no walking this back in the eyes of some protesters, I'm afraid. Unless OW is indicted for murder, some people will forever believe this grand jury was corrupt. IMO

I don't know how you can walk this back. Unless this Nicholls lady is from Alaska and has no ties to Missouri, I don't see how it can be walked back. If Nicholls was making this crap up, frankly, she needs to get on TV and say so, IMMEDIATELY and it better be truthful and heartfelt. Otherwise I think people would have reason to question it.

 

[Klood-N]

(Twitter war. Shaun King did NOT find this information and those who did are not happy he's taking credit.)

 

[krimekat]

I think you're probably right. But, I think your logic on this goes beyond grand jury. Within minutes of the incident, this situation today was Get Ready and Go!

but why?! There is no logic in that way of thinking . . . probable cause/due process is afforded to everyone, not just criminals :laugh:

no way mobsters will believe DNA/fingerprints of MB/DJ on the weapon &/or LE SUV -- it'll be a conspiracy

why is WaPo reporting this?

 

[reedus23]

They've been claiming a conspiracy to cover for Darren for weeks, expecting no indictment. Nadal's rumors didn't help. They said Jackson's apology meant he wasn't going to be indicted. The fact no reports from the open investigation were released meant the same, the fact McCulloch and the LE agencies said the investigations and reports weren't completed meant the same, etc. It's not helpful, but even if this didn't occur if he's not indicted, the GJ process was tainted from Day 1, in the protestors' eyes.

It's a long shot, but Anonymous has been all over this case too. They could've set up a fake account or hacked, for that matter. That's why I didn't just bring the twitter rumor here. It'll be looked into. But some thought the fix was in the minute Darren wasn't arrested 8/9.

Supposedly the account was 5 years old. Now did they hack her? Who knows. I doubt it. And there was a local article on this and one of the ladies that was part of the conversation (I think from the east coast) actually called the court house and reported it. I don't doubt Shaun King reported it as well.

 

[Minette]

I saw this go down, right before my eyes, on twitter this morning. She deleted her post in less than 2 minutes after she posted it. Within the hour, her whole profile was gone.

I personally think it's bogus, but I'm glad it's being investigated. The trouble is, is that even if it's found to be bogus, it won't matter a bit to the MB supporters. In their minds, someone on the GJ leaked info and the proceedings cannot be trusted.

As far as I'm concerned this is just another, 'set MB's memorial on fire' tactic to incite even more rage, which isn't hard to do

Respectfully BBM: I honestly don't believe you can describe all (or even most?) of the current regular protestors as 'MB supporters' any more than you can describe all or most of those who are unhappy about the actions of the protestors as 'DW supporters.' I believe the whole question of what happened with Michael Brown that day has been subsumed into other 'causes' that involve distrust or resentment of authority or anger over flagrant disruption of the community/lawbreaking. The two actual human men involved have been largely been lost in the shuffle, and that is very sad.

IMO, of course.

 

[reedus23]

I saw this go down, right before my eyes, on twitter this morning. She deleted her post in less than 2 minutes after she posted it. Within the hour, her whole profile was gone.

I personally think it's bogus, but I'm glad it's being investigated. The trouble is, is that even if it's found to be bogus, it won't matter a bit to the MB supporters. In their minds, someone on the GJ leaked info and the proceedings cannot be trusted.

As far as I'm concerned this is just another, 'set MB's memorial on fire' tactic to incite even more rage, which isn't hard to do

So Nicholls is an MB supporter?

 

[cady]

I don't know how you can walk this back. Unless this Nicholls lady is from Alaska and has no ties to Missouri, I don't see how it can be walked back. If Nicholls was making this crap up, frankly, she needs to get on TV and say so, IMMEDIATELY and it better be truthful and heartfelt. Otherwise I think people would have reason to question it.

If this person really exists, they will know if she or he knows any of the grand jurors. Probably soon. Wait and see. But someone is in trouble, and not necessarily a member of the Grand Jury. JMO

 

[Lovejac]

when trying to access the page, it says "Sorry, that pages does not exist" or whatever Twitter's message is -- either the FBI or StL County PD cut the account off after investigating (since they have been since after noon) or the Twitter acct was a fake :laugh:

honestly, when all the facts are out, it will be very telling IMHO

I think it was fake. I saw her original post on twitter this morning. I read it and then poof it was gone. The profile was gone in less than an hour.

 

[dandy]

I don't know how you can walk this back. Unless this Nicholls lady is from Alaska and has no ties to Missouri, I don't see how it can be walked back. If Nicholls was making this crap up, frankly, she needs to get on TV and say so, IMMEDIATELY and it better be truthful and heartfelt. Otherwise I think people would have reason to question it.

again - wishful thinking = they could make it a 2 some = m/brown's buddy (crap, can't think of his name).

imo he's got a lot of responsibility/accountability for what's happening.

 

[reedus23]

At this point in time I do not believe that the protesters will accept anything less than a "True Bill" for indictment. I do hope that the Grand Jury is not feeling intimidated into finding a "True Bill" due to fear of riots, looting and violence. I will not be surprised if the Grand Jury starts to "drag their feet" in coming to a final vote. This would not be the first time that a "jury" might feel pressured. I fail to see how a couple of minutes could result in months of investigation by a Grand Jury; there just isn't that much evidence to consider.

Both sides setting up arguments on why a no true bill will not be a legitimate result and the other side setting up their arguments on why a true-bill will not be a legitimate result.

 

[krimekat]

Gotta love Mother Nature eace:

funnel clouds way west of the metro