MO - Grief and protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown

[SStarr33]

that is a very interesting position to hold, so just to be clear you have no problem with police pointing loaded assault weapons and sniper rifles at peaceful citizens that are peaecfully protesting? committing no crimes and suspected of no crimes?

ok.

Oh Lawd.

After what has happened there, it would be irresponsible for the police not to do what they are doing. Give it a rest.

 

[JeannaT]

Murderous mob? Who did the mob murder?

Nobody yet. I didn't say "murdering". I said murderous. Capable of or intending to murder.

And yes, I do think there are those tonight who intend to murder. Like the 4 guys who were out with shotguns last night and thankfully cops got there in time.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

So I'm daydreaming & thinking forward to a Mad Max-esque scenario:

I can imagine that one day in the near future, there will be certain areas throughout our country that police will no longer patrol or cover (for a variety of reasons).

And then what will life be like in those areas? Will they be walled off or gated? Will signs at the entrance state "Police-free zone, no 911 response, enter at your own risk"?

'Just simply analyzing here & perplexed at how things will evolve.

Seems peace is not in the crystal ball.

moo

 

[JeannaT]

So I'm daydreaming & thinking forward to a Mad Max-esque scenario:

I can imagine that one day in the near future, there will be certain areas throughout our country that police will no longer patrol or cover (for a variety of reasons).

And then what will life be like in those areas? Will they be walled off or gated? Will signs at the entrance state "Police-free zone, no 911 response, enter at your own risk"?

'Just simply analyzing here & perplexed at how things will evolve.

Seems peace is not in the crystal ball.

moo

There already are those places LE doesn't go in to. And there are some they temporarily don't go into, like with the LE riots when they pulled back when the bedlam broke out. During the Laci Peterson missing investigation somebody called in a tip to a crackhouse and police refused to go investigate it, saying something along the lines of we don't go into that neighborhood, and truthfully they didn't believe the tip anyway.

 

[liljim]

i dont even know what to say, honestly. people keep mentioning that there were riots, looting, angry mobs, etc

none of that is happening now, nothing like that at all. why keep repeating it? the whole point of why this situation is so foul is that it is not an angry mob or anyone susspected of engaging in any crime, it is citizens out in the middle of the day, chanting for peace and justice, young girls doing cheerleader style cheers, old people, people with signs... how many times can that be repeated? it is broad daylight, nobody is being threatening, approaching police, or any other thing.

now the other main point - i am not saying the police should not be there, im not saying they shouldnt be proactive, im not saying they should be armed and prepared and alert and even armored.

IM SAYING they should not be pointing loaded assault rifles and sniper rifles at citizens that are not accused or suspected of doing anything unlawful - how is this not getting through? im going to end up getting a time out im sure because i seem to be pretty well despised by the mods here but honestly let the chips fall where they may.

for the last time then i will just ignore it - in a war zone, in a hostile foreign land, you would not walk around aiming your loaded weapon at civilians. you would have it pointed at the ground, how anyone is defending this is beyond me.

 

[wendiesan]

So it's de facto martial law in Fergosun.

 

[Beaglemania]

It seems to me that the Police are the ones trying to incite a riot. Just unbelievable. It is going to get worse, once the sun goes down.

 

[JeannaT]

i dont even know what to say, honestly. people keep mentioning that there were riots, looting, angry mobs, etc

none of that is happening now, nothing like that at all. why keep repeating it? the whole point of why this situation is so foul is that it is not an angry mob or anyone susspected of engaging in any crime, it is citizens out in the middle of the day, chanting for peace and justice, young girls doing cheerleader style cheers, old people, people with signs... how many times can that be repeated? it is broad daylight, nobody is being threatening, approaching police, or any other thing.

now the other main point - i am not saying the police should not be there, im not saying they shouldnt be proactive, im not saying they should be armed and prepared and alert and even armored.

IM SAYING they should not be pointing loaded assault rifles and sniper rifles at citizens that are not accused or suspected of doing anything unlawful - how is this not getting through? im going to end up getting a time out im sure because i seem to be pretty well despised by the mods here but honestly let the chips fall where they may.

for the last time then i will just ignore it - in a war zone, in a hostile foreign land, you would not walk around aiming your loaded weapon at civilians. you would have it pointed at the ground, how anyone is defending this is beyond me.

I think you may not realize what goes on in situations like this. As far as I know, when the President speaks before a crowd of VERY VERY passive people, there are guns aimed at the crowd. Guns aimed is a precaution against sudden outbursts of violence.

 

[liljim]

Ut oh. I think I'll just follow on twitter and tv. I am a big chicken.

jsut watch the fox 2 stream i linked - msm site

 

[JeannaT]

So it's de facto martial law in Fergosun.

If you owned a business in Ferguson, how would you feel about that? I'd be thinking Thank you Jesus.

 

[octobermoon]

Nobody yet. I didn't say "murdering". I said murderous. Capable of or intending to murder.

And yes, I do think there are those tonight who intend to murder. Like the 4 guys who were out with shotguns last night and thankfully cops got there in time.

These people right now are the ones with guns pointed at them. They are peaceful. Being ready is one thing, pointing sniper rifles at american citizens exercising their rights....

 

[octobermoon]

jsut watch the fox 2 stream i linked - msm site

Thank you

 

[JeannaT]

These people right now are the ones with guns pointed at them. They are peaceful. Being ready is one thing, pointing sniper rifles at american citizens exercising their rights....

Crowds can be crazy, octobermoon. Crowds are MUCH less predictable than individuals. A crowd feeds on it self and can become a wall of violence very very quickly. Like a tsunami, and there is no way to stop it. You have to get out in front of it and prevent it. Crowd behavior/dynamics is a fascinating science, but also a terrifying one. You can get people in a crowd to do things they would never even consider doing by themselves.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

i dont even know what to say, honestly. people keep mentioning that there were riots, looting, angry mobs, etc

none of that is happening now, nothing like that at all. why keep repeating it? the whole point of why this situation is so foul is that it is not an angry mob or anyone susspected of engaging in any crime, it is citizens out in the middle of the day, chanting for peace and justice, young girls doing cheerleader style cheers, old people, people with signs... how many times can that be repeated? it is broad daylight, nobody is being threatening, approaching police, or any other thing.

now the other main point - i am not saying the police should not be there, im not saying they shouldnt be proactive, im not saying they should be armed and prepared and alert and even armored.

IM SAYING they should not be pointing loaded assault rifles and sniper rifles at citizens that are not accused or suspected of doing anything unlawful - how is this not getting through? im going to end up getting a time out im sure because i seem to be pretty well despised by the mods here but honestly let the chips fall where they may.

for the last time then i will just ignore it - in a war zone, in a hostile foreign land, you would not walk around aiming your loaded weapon at civilians. you would have it pointed at the ground, how anyone is defending this is beyond me.

Welcome to the new America. I've witnessed the change through the last couple of decades.
There's lots of descent, lots of violence. It's a societal shift overall, I feel.
LE are just as much a part of that as we all are.

Sad but true. And it is quite alarming the first time you realize exactly the type of society we're living in versus the "supposed to be".

Yes sir.

 

[SStarr33]

i dont even know what to say, honestly. people keep mentioning that there were riots, looting, angry mobs, etc

none of that is happening now, nothing like that at all. why keep repeating it? the whole point of why this situation is so foul is that it is not an angry mob or anyone susspected of engaging in any crime, it is citizens out in the middle of the day, chanting for peace and justice, young girls doing cheerleader style cheers, old people, people with signs... how many times can that be repeated? it is broad daylight, nobody is being threatening, approaching police, or any other thing.

now the other main point - i am not saying the police should not be there, im not saying they shouldnt be proactive, im not saying they should be armed and prepared and alert and even armored.

IM SAYING they should not be pointing loaded assault rifles and sniper rifles at citizens that are not accused or suspected of doing anything unlawful - how is this not getting through? im going to end up getting a time out im sure because i seem to be pretty well despised by the mods here but honestly let the chips fall where they may.

for the last time then i will just ignore it - in a war zone, in a hostile foreign land, you would not walk around aiming your loaded weapon at civilians. you would have it pointed at the ground, how anyone is defending this is beyond me.

Interesting. Why do you think it is not happening now? I bet I know

 

[octobermoon]

Crowds can be crazy, octobermoon. Crowds are MUCH less predictable than individuals. A crowd feeds on it self and can become a wall of violence very very quickly. Like a tsunami, and there is no way to stop it. You have to get out in front of it and prevent it. Crowd behavior/dynamics is a fascinating science, but also a terrifying one. You can get people in a crowd to do things they would never even consider doing by themselves.

Sad day in America imo

 

[liljim]

These people right now are the ones with guns pointed at them. They are peaceful. Being ready is one thing, pointing sniper rifles at american citizens exercising their rights....

all those people are potential criminals and apparently assassins, this situation according to some is deserving of the same level of security as a presidential appearance...

 

[SStarr33]

Sad day in America imo

It is a sad day when that happens and there has been no prior violence.

 

[popsicle]

What exactly are they doing right now? Why?

 

[JeannaT]

Sad day in America imo

I think it's a really hopeful, business as usual the system works day in America. There was a shooting that is questionable, and a death of a young man, and the community is outraged and they are protesting as they should. And there is some middle ground here and LE is there in full force to keep the protesting peaceful, and to require that the protestors disperse at nightfall. This is America. In other countries the mobs would riot completely unchecked, or they would be too afraid of LE to peep out of their homes. I think this is actually a positive for the US. The system still works, IMHO.