MO - Grief and protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown

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Michael Calderone ‏@mlcalderone
Full Al Jazeera America statement on “egregious assault on freedom of the press” in Ferguson: pic.twitter.com/cF77iYhzf5


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Al Jazeera America ‏@ajam
Photos: Police fire teargas at @ajam reporters in #Ferguson alj.am/1pPxEFa pic.twitter.com/4ZfU3XuObr


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...chilling to say the least...

 

[octobermoon]

It was for their own safety, a tear gas can rolled right at their feet. They showed that on the news last night. Do you think the police want reporters getting tear-gassed? Even if the reporters want to be tear-gassed? How do they know it's not a Molotov Cockatail next?

The have no right to tell reporters where or what they can film. It is illegal. Reporters are embedded with our troops all the time in war zones.

The FPD are trampling on the freedom of the press. imo

Slippery slope.

 

[zwiebel]

Is it just me, but does the picture at this link saying rocks and molotovs thrown, actually show a cloud of tear gas?

And the one that says tear gas fired, actually shows someone throwing a molotov?

I'd be interested to hear what others think.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...rom_ferguson_missouri_on_wednesday_night.html

 

[popsicle]

I admittedly haven't tried to look and not even sure I would know how and I don't even know that it matters at the end of the day, but what I've been told and would really like to know for whatever reason:

A molatov cocktail was thrown. No question. In the ustream from earlier that evening (I think after the protesters were pushed back and coralled) a guy got on the mic or was interviewed or whatever you want to call it because I have a hard time calling that guy a reporter. Anyways, I've been told that this guy that says he came down from Chicago looks a lot like the guy seen holding the Molatov cocktail. Any way of going back and I don't know...do screenshots or determine if this is in fact the same guy? The person that said they thought it might be the same guy was going off of memory of what they were wearing but we all know how memories can be. TIA on any advice or if you can do it.

I posted tweets up thread with pics of a group of males lighting it.

 

[popsicle]

bumping

David Carson @PDPJ · 10h Saw guy with small silver semi automatic handgun with protesters #Ferguson


David Carson @PDPJ · 10h #Ferguson crowd threw rocks, bottles, Molotov cocktails, saw a gun, right before this stepped off
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David Carson @PDPJ· 9h #Ferguson protesters attempting to light Molotov cocktail
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These are from last night.

 

[liljim]

If this is true and I do believe it is they have just taken down Anonymous a peg or two. LOLOL!

"anonymous" is not a single entity, im curious - did you have an opinion of the anonymous group that stood up for the girl raped in steubenville?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I get it, I do..but the ones they targeted were not the ones rioting..go get those who are. Not pick on a peaceful protest. As I said never knew there was a curfew instilled that no one can peacefully protest after dusk...SMH

Lovie, I really do understand why this upsets you.

But in all honesty it is like a power keg up there right now. Tensions are running high. They aren't going to come in to the crowd and remove the wrongdoers. That would just be too dangerous for police and risky that other protestors would become inflamed and beat the officers trying to take down the bad ones. It is no different to me than if there had been a gunman or arsonist on the loose in the area and they required all citizens to go home even those who were doing nothing wrong.

I know you have seen how riots can quickly get out of hand and become a firestorm. Could they have policed it better? Sure, they are up against a crowd of protestors and they had no clue which protestor would stay peaceful and which ones would all of a sudden become violent.

I just wish things would calm down where level heads are used and the media needs to quit inciting the passions of the protestors. Mob mentality is all too real. One can do something violent and before we know it many are participating in the violence. We sadly and tragically have seen it spin out of control quickly in the past with horrific results.

And yes, it is sort of like a hurricane striking a city. Everyone is told they had to leave the area. There is also looting and serious vandalism done even in times such as this or in hurricanes where all people should pull together and support each other instead. But some don't and ruin it for everyone. And they don't go around wearing a sign on their forehead either that tells the police they are going to be the ones to start looting, damaging property and rioting.

 

[popsicle]

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[Sonya610]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...rom_ferguson_missouri_on_wednesday_night.html

This comment struck me as well....lol...

Jamelle Bouie ✔ @jbouie
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All of this repression, because the police killed a kid and the community wants answers.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

"anonymous" is not a single entity, im curious - did you have an opinion of the anonymous group that stood up for the girl raped in steubenville?

Did you miss the rest of my post perhaps?

I said I use to like Anonymous but I do not agree on how they have handle THIS case and I stand by that opinion. It has made me lose respect for them. They have now put out the wrong name of the police officer. They have acted dangerously and recklessly in THIS case imo. And the Stubenville rape case protestors were burning buildings down, nor destroying property including 20 cops cars and beating up innocent victims were they?

 

[JeannaT]

I wonder, if you asked the people looting and lobbing bricks to name the boy who was killed, could they do it?

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Lovie, I really do understand why this upsets you.

But in all honesty it is like a power keg up there right now. Tensions are running high. They aren't going to come in to the crowd and remove the wrongdoers. That would just be too dangerous for police and risky that other protestors would become inflamed and beat the officers trying to take down the bad ones. It is no different to me than if there had been a gunman or arsonist on the loose in the area and they required all citizens to go home even those who were doing nothing wrong.

I know you have seen how riots can quickly get out of hand and become a firestorm. Could they have policed it better? Sure, they are up against a crowd of protestors and they had no clue which protestor would stay peaceful and which ones would all of a sudden become violent.

I just wish things would calm down where level heads are used and the media needs to quit inciting the passions of the protestors. Mob mentality is all too real. One can do something violent and before we know it many are participating in the violence. We sadly and tragically have seen it spin out of control quickly in the past with horrific results.

And yes, it is sort of like a hurricane striking a city. Everyone is told they had to leave the area. There is also looting and serious vandalism done even in times such as this or in hurricanes where all people should pull together and support each other instead. But some don't and ruin it for everyone. And they don't go around wearing a sign on their forehead either that tells the police they are going to be the ones to start looting, damaging property and rioting.

I don't like what's going on...America is not a war torn country, tho' Ferguson is resembling that..

I think had the Chief of Police addressed the concerns of Mike Browns mother no one would be violent. It's the situation they've created by not giving out the name of the officer who allegedly shot down their child in cold blood or at least if not the name, details on why their boy was stopped in the first place. It appears to me they are covering up a murder..

So happy the DOJ/FBI are there investigating but at the same time, Ferguson PD know the FBI/DOJ are there and they still are violating the rights of citizens. The Ferguson PD should have sat down the Mike Browns mother instead of ignoring her pleas..that makes it appear as if a cover up is in the works...

I don't like that someone's child, who got shot in the back, turns with his hands up, going on his knees is executed...no it has a funky smell to it...

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Did you miss the rest of my post perhaps?

I said I use to like Anonymous but I do not agree on how they have handle THIS case and I stand by that opinion. It has made me lose respect for them. They have now put out the wrong name of the police officer. They have acted dangerously and recklessly in THIS case imo. And the Stubenville rape case protestors were burning buildings down, nor destroying property including 20 cops cars and beating up innocent victims were they?

I have a feeling, they have the right name..they wouldn't do that unless they knew for sure..I thank anon for bringing out injustices like they did with Steubenville. Those who covered up that rape, were exposed, arrested and tried..they do more good than they do bad..just my take on them.

 

[liljim]

Well they have now made another victim in this case. Mr. Willman will have to flee for his life because many don't even read the police site. They will hear his name through gossip mongering and that will be all that is necessary to hound this man. This has happened before in other cases just because someone else had the same name. Ugh.

What a hot mess this has become.

I pray they are giving Mr. Willman and his family full protection anyway.

If this is true and I do believe it is they have just taken down Anonymous a peg or two. LOLOL!

sorry ocean, i dont see anything in this post about what you used to think of anonymous or the steubenville case, is it some other post you are referring to?

i will look for some other post, if that is your opinion then it is noted.

 

[liljim]

I wonder, if you asked the people looting and lobbing bricks to name the boy who was killed, could they do it?

i have no idea, nor do i care. if they are looting and throwing bricks etc at police they should be arrested.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

But to some security experts, this much is certain: the actions of police made things worse.

"You're in trouble when your SWAT team is on the front line of dealing with a civil disturbance," Gen. Russell Honoré said Thursday.

In 2005, Honoré was dispatched to New Orleans to lead recovery efforts after Hurricane Katrina, when the federal government said it was facing "urban warfare." Honoré famously told authorities to lower their weapons, and defused the tense situation.

"I've seen this done successfully in the past where you have your front line policemen on the front until people start throwing things. Then you have your riot control squads in the back," Honoré told "CNN Newsroom" Thursday. "The tactics they are using, I don't know where they learned them from. It appears they may be making them up on the way. But this is escalating the situation."




You're in trouble when your SWAT team is on the front line of dealing with a civil disturbance.

Gen. Russell Honoré

"Any time we have policemen pointing weapons at American citizens, they need to go through retraining," Honoré added. "And I think we are about 24 hours too late."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/missouri-ferguson-police-tactics/index.html?sr=sharebar_twitter

 

[liljim]

I have a feeling, they have the right name..they wouldn't do that unless they knew for sure..I thank anon for bringing out injustices like they did with Steubenville. Those who covered up that rape, were exposed, arrested and tried..they do more good than they do bad..just my take on them.

anonymous, all its various factions and splinter groups, its members who are not really members - none of them are infallible and many of them are not particularly well intentioned, or in fact their intent is specifically malicious.

they have already released wrong information previously in this case, released information on the children of someone in LE (adult children)...

 

[Elley Mae]

I respectfully disagree. What they have done by releasing the officer's name is to now put his life and safety in danger. If he is married and has a wife and children they have also put their lives in danger as well. It will be another issue police will have to deal with upon all the other unrest in the city.

In most states there are laws to protect police officers' names from being released if it can be shown by releasing it .......it can endanger the life of the police officer or his family. I think it has certainly been proven that some up there are very violent. They are going to release his address too.

This officer has not been charged or arrested. We don't even know his side of the story completely. It is a dangerous game that Anonymous is playing with someone's life.

I use to like Anonymous but I have since learned it is several in the group and most are liberals and only picks certain cases based on their own agendas. They have lost all of my respect in this case. They are doing nothing helpful. They, right along with the media are inciting instead of trying to calm the city down where they can be patient for the FBI and DOJ investigation to be done.

Even putting out the PC......SS# shows how reckless and dangerous they are and how they want to hurt those who didn't even shoot Michael. I now found them disgusting.

bbm I saw it. :fence:

 

[K_Z]

Let's stop beating around the bush about the motivations for wanting this officer's name released (or hacked) at THIS particular point in time-- during the serious and unstable riots going on.

The groups that are advocating violence (Anonymous and New Black Panthers), are telling their "faithful supporters" (rioters) to hunt down and seriously hurt, or kill, if possible, this officer. IMO, and the opinions of a whole lotta others, lol! There is NO other reason to "hack" the name of this officer. They want mob justice. IMO, of course!

 

[liljim]

thanx for finding that elley mae, good work say hi to jed and granny for me