MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #10

[gngr~snap]

Dang ma'am! You are on a roll tonight!

What's next? Crime scene drawing with police vehicle, MB and MB's hat?

Pretty please? lease:

Just a couple things to ponder based on where marks are from Baden.

Fat Guy Running: http://youtu.be/8qul_HJHyDc
The wounds don't add up for running away or hands over his head surrendering.

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[JLSChook]

The VMA's just had a moment of silence for MB and for peace... :thinking:

I think I'll go donate to Officer Wilson again. Biased, much? :banghead:

 

[popsicle]

Well, that's nice. Don't we all want greater peace? I know I do.


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Yes, just skip over the re victimization of Officer Wilson in his statement.

 

[liloleme]

It's a whole different ballgame once a shot goes off, and you see that a police officer is coming after you with a gun pointed straight at you.

Isn't it?

Wouldn't "fight or flight" kick in at that point?

And MB had already chosen flight. He was already running away.

We will have to agree to disagree.

I believe that if we take the emotion out of this, there is no logic to MB turning around to "charge" OW.

Is there logic in robbing a store?
Is there logic in committing assault & battery after committing the robbery?
Is there logic in disobeying a direct order from a cop after committing the above crimes?
Is there logic to having a fight with a police officer in/at the car?

I'm a bit puzzled at why you're looking for logic in a person's behavior who has not done anything logical in an entire series of events? Why not just follow what they would in court... "state of mind"? Because, if you're looking for logic, it's right there.

 

[CHERIE.T]

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good, he should have been charged.

 

[gngr~snap]

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[Muffet]

To cite my above post, and for those still calling the assault on the officer, punch, gun thing just speculation, etc.

Below are the quotes.

Can anyone honestly believe this man (or any other attorney in his place) would have gone on TV for - two nights (aka not fired, LOL) - saying these things, if he could have instead said, "That's conjecture/not confirmed/no evidence"?

Brown Family attorney Parks: "Nancy, without question, there was some level of interaction, strong interaction, between the officer and Michael at the car. We don't deny that,” Daryl Parks, attorney for Brown’s family said Monday night.

“I think as evidence comes out, you'll see and hear more of that. But that`s not what killed him.”

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/08/18/michael-brown-shooting-autopsy-fight-car


When Megyn Kelly asked about the assault and eye injury to the officer the next night, he even adds a *blow*:

Parks: "In all due fairness, at the very beginning, at the car, there was a very serious situation between Michael and the officer, without question, in which there may have been blow-they had an altercation.

And at some point, the officer's gun may have come out and a shot's fired."

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-kelly-file/index.html#/v/3739124713001

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[liloleme]

That will be the issue. When did the threat stop? Because if he was going down in the street already and several people have said that there was a break in the shooting and then the 3 final shots that killed him. So if he was hit and going down then the threat was over. He only had to hold a gun on him and wait for back up. Shooting again only if he got up.

Shooting til the threat is over does not mean shooting until dead. Not with an unarmed person. IMPO

MB may not have had a gun (we don't know that for certain.. I don't believe he did, but who knows?) But, he was anything but unarmed.

 

[liloleme]

That is not what the evidence says. Since the arms move when we run it is possible that he was shot as he was running away and that was the catalyst for him turning around. It is absolutely possible given the autopsy diagram and we know that OW was shooting at him while he was running away.

No it's not. I've explained this before. That was totally a red herring.

 

[greycoupon]

Maybe they're doing the WAVE?

Not the right smiley but close :welcome4:

<modsnip> I was at a march yesterday where we chanted "Hands Up, don't shoot!" and put our hands in there. Clearly we were nothing but troublemakers.

Hands up, don't shoot is about a lot more than Mike Brown. It's about the many alarming cases of police harassment, brutality and most disturbingly, the sheer number of young black men killed by police. I think it's great that you have only had positive interaction with LE but many, many people who are not white have not be so fortunate. There is so much history of this that it impacts how People of Color see and react to LE.

I'm not defending looting or what may have been Michael Brown's actions but there is a bad history in Ferguson and given how poorly the PD handled the case, everyone should be upset.

 

[liloleme]

Because I believe he preditively murdered MB He had time when he was running away to cool down let his training come in and call for back up. he didnt' he chose to fatally shoot an unarmed teen

His training did come in! He used his training exactly like he was supposed to the ENTIRE 50 seconds! Bravo, OW!

 

[jmcgladr]

Yes, just skip over the re victimization of Officer Wilson in his statement.

Why Is remembering MB "re-victimizing" OW? For that matter, why is OW considered a victim? The eye injury? He is the shooter, remember? MB was the victim, in my eyes. Heck, even legally. It may have been a justified shooting, we don't know yet. But MB was a shooting victim, a dead one.


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[SStarr33]

I love that photo..it captures so much. IMO


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His twitter name captures so much about his character

 

[bettybaby00]

Just a couple things to ponder based on where marks are from Baden.

Fat Guy Running: http://youtu.be/8qul_HJHyDc
The wounds don't add up for running away or hands over his head surrendering.

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The whole "the arms are very movable" argument is gonna fall down as hard as the guy in this video!

 

[jmcgladr]

<modsnip> I was at a march yesterday where we chanted "Hands Up, don't shoot!" and put our hands in there. Clearly we were nothing but troublemakers.

Hands up, don't shoot is about a lot more than Mike Brown. It's about the many alarming cases of police harassment, brutality and most disturbingly, the sheer number of young black men killed by police. I think it's great that you have only had positive interaction with LE but many, many people who are not white have not be so fortunate. There is so much history of this that it impacts how People of Color see and react to LE.

I'm not defending looting or what may have been Michael Brown's actions but there is a bad history in Ferguson and given how poorly the PD handled the case, everyone should be upset.

Thank you for this post. I understand the sentiments!


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[Linda7NJ]

I honestly can't see why a suspect falling upon being shot repeatedly would be threatening to a trained police officer who was shooting him. More like expected cause and effect.


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And you base this on?

Just how often to you believe police officers experience that?????


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[SStarr33]

Well, that's nice. Don't we all want greater peace? I know I do.


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If there were fewer people acting like MB, there would be more peace.

 

[Linda7NJ]

The VMA's just had a moment of silence for MB and for peace... :thinking:

No moment for Suge???

Hmmmm


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[CHERIE.T]

gngr, shot 2....
one of the autopsies stated the shot entered the eye, exited thru the chin and re entered and hit the collarbone.

 

[tlcya]

I honestly can't see why a suspect falling upon being shot repeatedly would be threatening to a trained police officer who was shooting him. More like expected cause and effect.


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Several threads back it was discussed at length that a stationary subject (one standing still in a state of surrender) or one moving away (backing) from the gunshots would fall backward not forward. The only reason for Mr. Brown to fall forward while being shot was he was moving forward, toward the threat.