MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #10

[popsicle]

David Carson ‏@PDPJ 2m
#Ferguson small group marches down W Florissant chanting cops just watch pic.twitter.com/T3os92BwOv

 

[aa9511]

But officer wilson has no history of abusing civilians before. He has a clean record. Why would he pull a gun out on this teen, in broad daylight, in front of a zillion witnesses, most of whom don't like cops? I could believe it if they ran into each other in a dark alley maybe.

But the prior 10 minutes show MB is the one with the bizarre aggressive behavior, NOT the officer. Why paint this cop with such a broad brush, and paint him out to be a racist criminal, when there is no prior history of that?

If we are going to paint the cop with a broad brush then we should do the same with MB, correct?

First of all, none of us know what Officer Wilson was doing in the 10, 20, 30 minutes, the hours before, or the days before this murder. We do NOT know what his state of mind was, either. No, he didn't rob any store, but that does NOT mean he couldn't have been irritated by something going on in his life, or some other thing which would affect his state of mind.

None of us know him personally or professionally, as far as I know of.

JMO.

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

Michael Brown Spent Last Weeks Grappling With Problems and Promise

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/u...eeks-grappling-with-lifes-mysteries.html?_r=0

 

[aa9511]

I think the only real 100% truth we will get is the evidence.

Amen. Post of the Day, IMO.

 

[aa9511]

I am not going to assume that the officer is going to lie about anything. So far he has not been caught in any lies, because he has only told his story to the investigators. And his family.

Dorian has told several blatant lies. So he has lost all credibility, imo.

What about Michael's version? Oh, that's right, he's dead so we'll never know.

How can we be 100% sure someone is telling the whole truth when one whole side of the story is missing??

 

[katydid23]

Why Is remembering MB "re-victimizing" OW? For that matter, why is OW considered a victim? The eye injury? He is the shooter, remember? MB was the victim, in my eyes. Heck, even legally. It may have been a justified shooting, we don't know yet. But MB was a shooting victim, a dead one.


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But if MB attacked first then it is hard for me to consider him the victim. If you blindside a cop and punch him in the face, struggle over his gun, then you are the aggressor. You may end up dead, but it doesnt make you the 'victim.' jmo

 

[jmcgladr]

I found it! Perseverance pays off, and dumb luck. Was looking for confirmation of recent stressors in OW's life (a recent divorce is a major stressor for anyone) and I re-read this quote:

"The Ferguson Police Department quickly ceded the investigation to the St. Louis County police. St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said Brown “allegedly pushed” Wilson back into the car and physically assaulted Wilson. There was a struggle over Wilson’s gun, which was fired once inside the car, Belmar said. The only person to fire the gun was Wilson, he said."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...c796f0-2a45-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

So I was apparently correct in what I said earlier - only OW fired the gun. By the admission of the St. Louis County police chief.




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[aa9511]

I have reasonable doubt that Officer Wilson shot MB while he was holding his hands up in the air surrendering. I do not have reasonable doubt that MB beat the officer almost unconscious and tried to take his gun before running away. So it is not hard at all for me to believe MB stopped running, turned around and bum rushed the officer. After all, the officer did miss with all the shots if he was shooting for center mass (chest). MB likely gambled that he could reach the officer before he could fire the fatal shot if he crouched down running on his hands and feet with his head down near the pavement. That would take away the likelihood of the officer being able to shoot him in the chest, but then MB's head became center mass instead of his chest. I think it would be easy to figure out where MB was when he got hit with the first bullet vs when he received the fatal shot to the top of the head. If there's drops/splatters of blood behind where he fell dead, that's proof positive in my mind that he was running toward the officer. JMO

bbm

Oh, so now we're adding until "almost unconscious" to the story? Wow. It's like with every passing day, the story gets more and more exxagerated in favor of OW.

 

[gngr~snap]

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5750000150.htm
Felony resisting arrest?

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[jmcgladr]

First of all, none of us know what Officer Wilson was doing in the 10, 20, 30 minutes, the hours before, or the days before this murder. We do NOT know what his state of mind was, either. No, he didn't rob any store, but that does NOT mean he couldn't have been irritated by something going on in his life, or some other thing which would affect his state of mind.

None of us know him personally or professionally, as far as I know of.

JMO.

We do know he was divorced within the last year, a major stressor.


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[Linda7NJ]

Michael Brown Spent Last Weeks Grappling With Problems and Promise

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/u...eeks-grappling-with-lifes-mysteries.html?_r=0

From your link:

"In the weeks afterward, until his shooting death by Darren Wilson, a white police officer, on Aug. 9, they detected a change in him as he spoke seriously about religion and the Bible. He was grappling with life’s mysteries."

Detected a change????







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[Muffet]

This might be a good place to repost this, from our favorite, verified lawyer, boytwnmom.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-teen-Michael-Brown-9&p=10888407#post10888407

A lot of very important information in that post. I'd add it to my fantasy "Read this before Posting" post.

 

[katydid23]

No, they should be arrested.


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And what happens if the cop tries to arrest someone, and that 'unarmed' person, who is 6ft4 in and weighs 300 bs, shoves him back in the car, punches him in the face and tries to et control of the gun. Then what?

 

[Muffet]

From your link:

"In the weeks afterward, until his shooting death by Darren Wilson, a white police officer, on Aug. 9, they detected a change in him as he spoke seriously about religion and the Bible. He was grappling with life’s mysteries."

Detected a change????







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BBM
Good catch.

 

[gngr~snap]

I thought his arms were under him. They were not.
*Graphic
http://theobamacrat.com/2014/08/09/...m-ten-times-for-shoplifting-candy/mike-brown/

http://nsnbc.me/2014/08/15/exclusive-michael-brown-shooting-witness-releases-photo-scene/

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[Linda7NJ]

Just had to share because it cracked me up!!




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[jmcgladr]

And what happens if the cop tries to arrest someone, and that 'unarmed' person, who is 6ft4 in and weighs 300 bs, shoves him back in the car, punches him in the face and tries to et control of the gun. Then what?

We don't know for a fact that ANY of that is true. We don't know that OW was trying to arrest MB at the time he was in the patrol car, or afterward for that matter! We don't know he was shoved back in the car, we don't know he was punched in the face and we certainly don't know that MB was trying to take his gun away!


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[katydid23]

I've been wondering about this question of classification of "victim".

At the end of the day, I wind up thinking - Would anyone call the rapist a victim, simply because he was killed, even if the killing was justified?

If I shoot a home invader robbery guy, that broke into my home, is the the 'victim' because I shot him? :waitasec:

 

[Linda7NJ]

Omg, I did not know this. Funny how that little teeny minor detail has been completely left out in the discussion on these threads.

No it hasn't.

Been discussed...


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[aa9511]

From your link:

"In the weeks afterward, until his shooting death by Darren Wilson, a white police officer, on Aug. 9, they detected a change in him as he spoke seriously about religion and the Bible. He was grappling with life’s mysteries."

Detected a change????







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