MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #11

[TheDuchess]

WOWZWERS!!!!!! Darryly Parks just now said to Nancy Grace, that he DOUBTS THE AUTHNENICITY OF THE AUDIO TAPE. :thud:

I guess we might be able to surmise from that revelation that they have just recently found out that the audio tape actually corroborates OW's story rather than it being the "smoking gun" they were hoping for.

 

[CoolJ]

I admit I'm having a hard time figuring out why people are so stuck on this. Both the officer's side and DJ's side, who are the only two living people to have witnessed the whole encounter agree that the encounter began with the officer telling them to get out of the street. The chief's statement is totally in agreement with that. It's a 100% accurate statement that the first contact wasn't related to robbery. That's not why he initially stopped them. It may be that he heard the BOLO later, or that he had heard the BOLO earlier but didn't make the connection until he noticed the cigars, etc. Maybe he didn't even hear the BOLO, and his entire reason for identifying Brown as a threat was the struggle for the gun or the alleged facial injury.

What this tells me is that in those initial moments after the shooting officer Wilson didn't tell any of his fellow officers that he suspected MB as "strong armed robber". Initially the chief said point blank that he stopped them because of jaywalking. It wasn't until later that they decided Wilson had heard the BOLO as the incident was happening. My opinion (and still doesn't really prove justified shooting or not) is that they realized how bad it looked that an unarmed kid was shot for jaywalking. Luckily for them, they had him on video apparently robbing a store in the moments before, so now they could say that Wilson realized that as things were in progress. Not sure if I buy it.

 

[reedus23]

This is so strange.... Right from the get go, I had a strange feeling about that chief, he was stuttering over his words, looking at others for answers... He didn't seem confident at all in answering questions... How could they have still been looking for the suspect to the robbery at that point in time. Doesn't make sense at all that they couldn't put 2 and 2 together.

They did put 2 and 2 together. But I don't think they did until late that night or even the next day. But until that can be explained, I just can't buy any story that involves anyone in the FPD, including Wilson, connecting MB with the robbery at the time of the incident. I have my own thoughts on the timing of it all, but I'll just keep those to myself.

 

[SStarr33]

I guess we might be able to surmise from that revelation that they have just recently found out that the audio tape actually corroborates OW's story rather than it being the "smoking gun" they were hoping for.

LOL, ya think???

 

[TheDuchess]

The audio tape - do you guys remember the clear slide projectors that the teachers used to use (they all use fancy Smart Boards now.) Basically, they would have a stack of clear plastic sheets that they would put on the projector and it would show up on the screen. Often times, teachers would take 2 slides to superimpose one image over another image to show some kind of relationship. I remember my teachers using it a log in Geography lessons.

I am picturing that this audio tape, if authentic, could be used in a much similar way. Take the clear slide of the shots as they rang out and place it over OW's version of events. I chased the suspect, then he turned around and came at me, so I fired several shots. He stopped running and turned around with his hands briefly in the air, so I stopped momentarily, but within just a second or two, he came at me again! So I fired several more shots until he fell on the ground dead. I don't know what he was thinking, but I won't be surprised to find out he was on something."

Clear.

 

[Apollo]

What this tells me is that in those initial moments after the shooting officer Wilson didn't tell any of his fellow officers that he suspected MB as "strong armed robber". Initially the chief said point blank that he stopped them because of jaywalking. It wasn't until later that they decided Wilson had heard the BOLO as the incident was happening. My opinion (and still doesn't really prove justified shooting or not) is that they realized how bad it looked that an unarmed kid was shot for jaywalking. Luckily for them, they had him on video apparently robbing a store in the moments before, so now they could say that Wilson realized that as things were in progress. Not sure if I buy it.

He wasnt shot for jaywalking because he wasn't jaywalking, he was walking down the middle of the street. He wasn't shot for walking down the middle of the street either. He also wasn't shot for robbing the store. He was shot for getting into an altercation with Wilson.

 

[bettybaby00]

WOWZWERS!!!!!! Darryly Parks just now said to Nancy Grace, that he DOUBTS THE AUTHNENICITY OF THE AUDIO TAPE. :thud:

:floorlaugh:

 

[reedus23]

I would actually be shocked if that was the case. DJ made no indication that he knew the officer, that he or Mike had any kind of history with him etc. Also, Mike was in and out of the neighborhood attending different schools, so he wasn't there constantly. Finally, the media did not know the officer's name for some time. If ANY of the many, many people there watching after the shooting had that kind of familiarity with the officer I'd think we would have known his name much sooner.

I didn't say DJ or MB knew him. Them knowing the cops name would surprise me. Them having a nickname for him would not surprise me, but to know his actual name would surprise me too. You're probably right in this instance though. MB didn't even live in the neighborhood full time.

 

[TexanMom]

:floorlaugh:

I know! You can't make this stuff up!

 

[bettybaby00]

The audio tape - do you guys remember the clear slide projectors that the teachers used to use (they all use fancy Smart Boards now.) Basically, they would have a stack of clear plastic sheets that they would put on the projector and it would show up on the screen. Often times, teachers would take 2 slides to superimpose one image over another image to show some kind of relationship. I remember my teachers using it a log in Geography lessons.

I am picturing that this audio tape, if authentic, could be used in a much similar way. Take the clear slide of the shots as they rang out and place it over OW's version of events. I chased the suspect, then he turned around and came at me, so I fired several shots. He stopped running and turned around with his hands briefly in the air, so I stopped momentarily, but within just a second or two, he came at me again! So I fired several more shots until he fell on the ground dead. I don't know what he was thinking, but I won't be surprised to find out he was on something."


Clear.

And it would take him longer than 8 seconds to even verbalized that.

 

[LambChop]

One question I have is that if DW didn't ask them about the robbery, why did DJ run? At that point, DJ did nothing wrong.

 

[katydid23]

What this tells me is that in those initial moments after the shooting officer Wilson didn't tell any of his fellow officers that he suspected MB as "strong armed robber". Initially the chief said point blank that he stopped them because of jaywalking. It wasn't until later that they decided Wilson had heard the BOLO as the incident was happening. My opinion (and still doesn't really prove justified shooting or not) is that they realized how bad it looked that an unarmed kid was shot for jaywalking. Luckily for them, they had him on video apparently robbing a store in the moments before, so now they could say that Wilson realized that as things were in progress. Not sure if I buy it.

But it does not matter if the officer knew about the robbery. What matters is that the teen KNEW he was carrying the stolen cigars and figured the cop would know. That is the important part.

 

[bettybaby00]

I guess we might be able to surmise from that revelation that they have just recently found out that the audio tape actually corroborates OW's story rather than it being the "smoking gun" they were hoping for.

I wonder what Don Lemon has to say?

 

[CARIIS]

ANyone who sells car batteries head to Ferguson - there must be a limit to horn utilzation and related battery drain

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[Oceans]

IMO this was his concern, and that behavior made MB a treat to everyone.

A treat? :giggle:

That would have been wonderful!

 

[CoolJ]

He wasnt shot for jaywalking because he wasn't jaywalking, he was walking down the middle of the street. He wasn't shot for walking down the middle of the street either. He also wasn't shot for robbing the store. He was shot for getting into an altercation with Wilson.

I didn't say anything about why he was shot, I am simply saying that I am doubting Wilson knew at any point in time during that incident that MB may have committed any kind of crime. Others here have been analyzing the store video for days saying it proves that MB was capable of violence.... I am saying it is irrelevant, because I don't think Wilson knew anything about it.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Anybody else think this is Dorian at about 2 minutes in--left hand side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZ8BU6I-jI&feature=youtu.be

hard to tell...looked like him imo tho.

 

[reedus23]

'pushed him aside.'? That is putting it lightly. He grabbed the much smaller, older man by the throat. He shoved him into the food racks. Then he turned and came back, which is interesting in itself, and intimidated the poor little guy again. AFTER STEALING from the store.

You don't think he would have assaulted anyone else if they had something he wanted?

He might have. Who knows. But conjecture like that isn't enough to support justification. There are a lot of people that might assault someone else. That doesn't justify using deadly force unless they are actually posing that imminent threat at that specific period in time when the fatal shots are fired. JMHO.

 

[katydid23]

they did put 2 and 2 together. But i don't think they did until late that night or even the next day. But until that can be explained, i just can't buy any story that involves anyone in the fpd, including wilson, connecting mb with the robbery at the time of the incident. I have my own thoughts on the timing of it all, but i'll just keep those to myself.

but mb had the stolen merchandise.

 

[bettybaby00]

One question I have is that if DW didn't ask them about the robbery, why did DJ run? At that point, DJ did nothing wrong.

B/C the crazy, racist, out to kill young black boys cop would probably turn around and shoot him. It was daytime after all.