MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #12

[TheDuchess]

The look on son2's face as son3's fist is coming is priceless. They know I am hormonal as heck right now- and it is better to humor me. Due to the math, son3 ends up taller than the truck but exactly where a 6'4" person would be in relation to the door window of a Tahoe.

You are awesome and so are your boys!!!

 

[reedus23]

The shooting happened shortly after the robbery. It didn't happen during the robbery.

Can the argument not be made that they were still in the process of fleeing the scene of the robbery? I understand that at some point the commission of the felony has to end, but they hadn't even made it back to wherever they were going. I don't know. I'm just asking.

 

[gngr~snap]

I was gonna say fist height.
MB would have no problem reaching in car for gun.
He has some long arms!

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/cr...5f9a-973c-70d628d0be04.html?mobile_touch=true

Thank you so much!! :loveyou:

From the looks of that picture, Officer Wilson was in a perfect position to be punched by MB with not much effort on MB's part.

Handsome family BTW :wink: Tell them we said thank you!

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[popsicle]

Micheal Brown shot at 10 times by Officer Wilson,…: http://youtu.be/VA8mRPxtQHA

Audio slowed down and shots fired can be seen when analyzing. Pretty cool.
Still doesn't tell us if it's authentic though...
I think it is.
How could Howard Stern find someone who lived in front of the scene that would agree? I guess he could but...

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And who then is the female lawyer... is she aware the tape potentially is a fake?

 

[nomoresorrow]

Perhaps that shot went off when Brown was assaulting Wilson.

And they'll be able to determine that based on distance and trajectory.

 

[reedus23]

Hmm, well, I think if DW had been the one killed then felony murder charges would be possible for DJ (is MO even has that statute, some states don't) but if that had been the case this would have been a 24 hour wonder and we wouldn't be here discussing it.

Second degree murder, penalty.
565.021. 1. A person commits the crime of murder in the second degree if he:

(1) Knowingly causes the death of another person or, with the purpose of causing serious physical injury to another person, causes the death of another person; or

(2) Commits or attempts to commit any felony, and, in the perpetration or the attempted perpetration of such felony or in the flight from the perpetration or attempted perpetration of such felony, another person is killed as a result of the perpetration or attempted perpetration of such felony or immediate flight from the perpetration of such felony or attempted perpetration of such felony.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5650000021.htm

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/mo-court-of-appeals/1007463.html

Case that is an example of where one was found guilty of felony murder when his co-conspirator was killed. Brief facts: Defendant and deceased set up drug deal. Deceased went in to buy drugs from an FBI informant, but instead tried robbing him, started shooting up the place. FBI busted in and shot the deceased, killing him obviously. Defendant found guilty of felony murder (felony being attempting to buy the drugs)(murder because his co-conspirator was killed when the FBI shot him).

 

[KEVINinTO]

Some are trying to say it's a Howard Stern stunt.

“I’ve told your producers that for all I know this is something that one of Howard Stern’s punk people have been doing…I don’t have a high degree of confidence in it…I look at this and my first inclination is that someone is trying to punk CNN.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-commentators-doubt-cnn-ferguson-audio-scoop/

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I find it hard to believe that the audio recording is a hoax. It has been reported that the person recording was using a video chat/text application for smart phones called "Glide". This program does not store the video files on the smart phone but rather "in the cloud" i.e. on an external server. I am sure that the FBI would be able to obtain a copy of the file along with server records from the company maintaining the server. The server records would provide an accurate time stamp for when the video was recorded. If in fact this is a hoax a person would have to be extremely stupid to use an application like "Glide" that stores files "in the cloud"

I wonder if these "experts" did any research on this subject before they were invited on CNN to shoot their mouths off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLzAqCMnmnA

 

[UdbCrzy2]

And they'll be able to determine that based on distance and trajectory.

I think they will have the state crime lab process much of this. Below is a link to their website.
http://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/MSHPWeb/PatrolDivisions/CLD/index.html

 

[branwynbreeze]

And who then is the female lawyer... is she aware the tape potentially is a fake?

From Pink Floyd

And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?
We call it Riding the Gravy Train.

 

[bettybaby00]

Ok- Had MB stand in son stand on a 2 inch board with sneakers on to make measurements come out the same as the tahoe door/window height- as we have bigger tires- ( and son is taller than I thought). Yes, they are used to Mom and her WS re-enactments; they have done it for another case - or two

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eta; son stand in for OW is only 5'7". You can see he is leaning a bit towards his younger brother. MMV as to son sitting's height vs OW's actual sitting height

Awwww that your sons cooperate and willing help with your re enactments <3

Great job!

 

[CoolJ]

Ok, so IF this incident happened in the way most are saying (that MB was shot while charging at OW) to me MB must have known what the outcome would be, so basically he was suicidal, unless he was messed up on some sort of crazy drug(and I sure don't mean weed), then I have a hard time buying that. Why on earth would he charge him like that, doesn't make sense to me, the baddest of bad criminals wouldn't do that, this is either a suicidal or psychotic act. Would love to see the tox report. I'm still staying in the fence with this case so far, but am open minded.

 

[Minette]

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5650000021.htm

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/mo-court-of-appeals/1007463.html

Case that is an example of where one was found guilty of felony murder when his co-conspirator was killed. Brief facts: Defendant and deceased set up drug deal. Deceased went in to buy drugs from an FBI informant, but instead tried robbing him, started shooting up the place. FBI busted in and shot the deceased, killing him obviously. Defendant found guilty of felony murder (felony being attempting to buy the drugs)(murder because his co-conspirator was killed when the FBI shot him).

That is some good research! I wouldn't have thought charges could be brought against a co-conspirator (co-perpetrator? I don't know the word that applies here, even though I think DJ was just along for the ride, not actively intending anything) if LE was the one who did the shooting, TIL.

 

[momrids6]

Awwww that your sons cooperate and willing help with your re enactments <3

Great job!

I really did not give them a choice :happydance:: told them the Board needed visuals! Son3 only weighs 185- and has arms on the shorter side, so imagine another 109 pounds and about 3 inches in arm length reaching in for OW's gun as well as striking OW.

eta: if you look at the pics, "OW" would have had to reach up to reach "MB"'s neck if he was standing upright- and would have little leverage....

 

[cady]

Oh my, Scarlett, you are late. This is what was released earlier this afternoon.

RE: audio Has the FBI confirmed that it is a hoax? Tom Fuentes, former FBI, Cnn analyst, if I heard him correctly, said that initially, he thought it was a hoax ,but,he added that the FBI may have the whole gunshot event captured and that the final portion of the audio may have been ok'd for release where the first part, was NOT released because of the language not allowed for public airing, possibly. We need the FBI to debunk it's authenticity, if that is the case. JMO

 

[gngr~snap]

And who then is the female lawyer... is she aware the tape potentially is a fake?

"One of the reasons he says he believes the recording to be authentic is that the app automatically time stamps each entry, and the date, time and location of the man's apartment where the video was made seem to add up".
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/da..._captures_audio_of_michael_brown_shooting.php
She doesn't believe it's a fake. Imo.


"Glide is not a dating app, rather it's like a "video walkie-talkie." Users have to be friends to send video messages back and forth, which are transmitted instantly and watched in almost real time. All messages are stored in the cloud until a user deletes them."*


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[DebinGA]

I was gonna say fist height.
MB would have no problem reaching in car for gun.
He has some long arms!

http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/cr...5f9a-973c-70d628d0be04.html?mobile_touch=true

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There's UG [Unknown Guy] in your top image, gngr~snap [http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/27/a593c9c20dfee92bd12aab9192c70476.jpg], holding the door open for MB/DJ, who he came in and left with. Hope police have tracked him down and gotten his story.

And here's UG [10 sec. in] entering the store, head down to avoid the camera, right before MB and DJ. http://m.stltoday.com/news/local/cr...5f9a-973c-70d628d0be04.html?mobile_touch=true

 

[bettybaby00]

I find it hard to believe that the audio recording is a hoax. It has been reported that the person recording was using a video chat/text application for smart phones called "Glide". This program does not store the video files on the smart phone but rather "in the cloud" i.e. on an external server. I am sure that the FBI would be able to obtain a copy of the file along with server records from the company maintaining the server. The server records would provide an accurate time stamp for when the video was recorded. If in fact this is a hoax a person would have to be extremely stupid to use an application like "Glide" that stores files "in the cloud"

I wonder if these "experts" did any research on this subject before they were invited on CNN to shoot their mouths off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLzAqCMnmnA

You're right that it would be easily identifiable as a hoax, yet my understanding is this guy has pulled off a number of them. And the guys in the interview aren't your average talking heads, as in they aren't ignorant of this type of evidence. Guy #1 is a former LAPD police officer, and guy #2 is a former FBI assistant director.

 

[cady]

CNN Experts Think Audio of Brown Shooting Is a Hoax: ‘Someone’s Trying to Punk CNN’

Former LAPD officer David Klinger and CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes both told CNN’s New Day Wednesday morning that the recording the network has been airing that allegedly captured the shots fired at Michael Brown could quite easily be a hoax.


http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-exper...g-to-punk-cnn/

"EASILY", being the operative word. JMO

 

[Lovejac]

Let the record reflect that Lovejac is :fence: about the gunshot recording

And I reserve my right to change my mind :biggrin:

 

[SStarr33]

Maybe we talked about this and I missed it, but check this video at 1:58. Is that a casing on the ground to the left of the double yellow lines?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting/index.html?sr=sharebar_facebook