MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #12

[UdbCrzy2]

Wow, this is pretty horrific stuff. Matches exactly what most reporters on the scene said happened. It is very sad to hear anyone mke excuses this blatantly illegal behavior on the part of the FPD. Cops should know and follow the law better than anyone, IMHO.

I read it and it almost seems like a 'setup' to me. If they don't clear the area when told to do so then they are arrested. The police don't care if they are waiting for someone to pick them up. If they had a riot situation and wanted the place cleared, then they should obey.

 

[gngr~snap]

A million thanks for this. I am so fed up with criminals being hailed as victims and being given hero status. I'm tired of the life being glamorized and thugs being looked up to by young children. It's a freakin shame that parents are raising their kids to thugging, thieving, scamming and killing as an admirable lifestyle.

I'm tired of young black men being killed by the thousands every year by other young black men and nobody bats an eye but let one young black criminal get shot and killed after attacking a white officer and suddenly the whole community is outraged at the injustice.

I'm tired of people like Sharpeton and Jesse Jackson making a fortune by keeping racism stirred up. They don't care one bit about thousands of young black men being killed by other young men, They don't want peace and unity, they make their living by causing discord and tension.

I am so sad for the children being raised in this environment, being robbed of their potential and their future by the ones who should be nurturing them, ensuring they get an education and teaching them the value of hard work and respect for others.

Very well said!
I can't express how I feel because my vocabulary isn't always inline with what I am trying to say. It comes out exactly the opposite of what I was trying to express. I end up offending people when that was not my intent.


Face masks and setting scenes to try and depict the past is wrong. It does inflame at a time when people's emotions are raw.
Why pour salt on their wounds?
Haven't we figured out violence never solves violence?
We are either the problem or the solution.
Imo



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[oceanblueeyes]

A million thanks for this. I am so fed up with criminals being hailed as victims and being given hero status. I'm tired of the life being glamorized and thugs being looked up to by young children. It's a freakin shame that parents are raising their kids to thugging, thieving, scamming and killing as an admirable lifestyle.

I'm tired of young black men being killed by the thousands every year by other young black men and nobody bats an eye but let one young black criminal get shot and killed after attacking a white officer and suddenly the whole community is outraged at the injustice.

I'm tired of people like Sharpeton and Jesse Jackson making a fortune by keeping racism stirred up. They don't care one bit about thousands of young black men being killed by other young men, They don't want peace and unity, they make their living by causing discord and tension.

I am so sad for the children being raised in this environment, being robbed of their potential and their future by the ones who should be nurturing them, ensuring they get an education and teaching them the value of hard work and respect for others.

My sentiments exactly! Thank you and Linda.

I have so many things I do not understand about cases like this. Maybe someone will be kind enough to explain and answer my questions.

I am a white woman and I know I really cant relate to AAs who are killed by another race. But what has perplexed me for many years now.. not only about this case, but other murders of AAs is there is no outrage/protests/marches shown by the AA community even though 93% of AAs who are murdered are murdered by their own race. That is an appalling statistic. It is an epidemic yet we never see the AAs come into the AA communities to protest about all the killing of their own people by their own people. WHY? It sends a message to others (whether they realize it or not) they only care about an AAs life if it is taken by another race. Do they not care about the appalling 93%? If so why so silent and never a voice of outrage against their own people?

I guess I just don't understand why such outrage for the small minority of 7% that are murdered or killed in some manner by other races. The whites surely aren't the ones going around murdering AAs more often. I could totally understand their outrage if that was the case but it isn't.

I have read that Homicide is the number one cause of death for AAs between the age of 15-34.

And isn't it true that more whites are murdered by AAs than whites murdering AAs? Yet whites are seen as the number one enemy to AAs? It makes no sense. The true enemies reside within the black communities.

How can they see the whites as the enemy when they aren't even the ones killing AAs very often?

I really wish someone in the AA community would explain it to me because it as always left me puzzled.

I understand that many decades ago life was terrible for AAs and they were victims. But no one has to stay a victim.

While I am sure not saying my childhood was tougher than anyone else's but it damn sure was tough trying to survive the daily abuse of my own alcoholic father from the age of 5 until I was almost 16. I guess I could have played the victim role forever and used that as an excuse to do nothing with my life but I didn't. My goal was to go on and live a very decent law abiding productive life and I accomplished that because my goal was to be totally different than the environment I was raised in.

Everyone has a choice in life no matter where they came from or what they have had to endure in their lives. Everyone can be a survivor when they refuse to stay a victim.

Respectfully, JMO.

 

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Black Lawyers for Justice suing #stl county police, #ferguson police for $40m on behalf of 5 citizens.
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[nothingnew]

That is a very strong statement. Do you have a link to back this up or is this just an opinion? Thanks

Wouldn't "I believe" be the same disclaimer as "IMO"?

 

[Gypsy Road]

Just wait. In about a month, you will no longer be able to have a pain pill phoned in. You will have to see a doctor, immediate care or an er for a hand signed prescription. Just wow. That is gonna suck for so many in a big way.
All narcotics will be schedule 2 now. (at least in Georgia)

Old fashioned sudafed is the only thing that works for me. That other stuff over the counter is a joke.
I get why it had to be done. I am so mad at people who abuse drugs right now. They have have screwed upbthe system for everyone who doesn't. Imo
Once the rule takes effect in 45 days, all hydrocodone products will be considered Schedule II drugs. Patients will see new restrictions on prescriptions
http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-hydrocodone-curbs-20140822-story.html

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That really STINKS!! And I'm with you about the Sudafed. I have terrible sinus congestion problems living here in wet and moldy NW FLA, and Sudafed is the only thing that helps clear my head! You are right...the other substitutes stuff is a JOKE!

 

[Truthy]

How do we know OW is a rouge cop?

I don't think anyone is surprised by any civil lawsuits. That has become as common as rain in today's time in cases like this. It amazes me how quickly the lawsuits wanting financial gain pop up. We have become a country filled with those who file lawsuits quicker than one can blink their eyes. It seems as soon as the person is buried or sooner here they come.

Wasn't MB just buried this week?

I was referring to those who refused to identify themselves while making arrests. And also the one who threatened to kill someone and others who used rubber bullets on those not "moving along" fast enough. It'll be interesting to see if they blame the chief for instructing them to change procedures, or if they take the blame themselves.

 

[gngr~snap]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/51...-martin-luther-king-jr-delivered-dream-speech

I bet we will hear an "I Have a Dream" speech from Jackson or Sharpton today.
It never hurts to hear it again...
They need to take it a step further.

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[i.b.nora]

12:02 pm central time, Saturday August 9th.. Glide streaming app confirms time of gunshot audio.

Don Lemon live on CNN

 

[Truthy]

I read it and it almost seems like a 'setup' to me. If they don't clear the area when told to do so then they are arrested. The police don't care if they are waiting for someone to pick them up. If they had a riot situation and wanted the place cleared, then they should obey.

They tricked cops into refusing to ID themselves? INYO, how would that work? It was unreasonable for the woman to be united with her minor child how exactly- she is responsible for that child, and did not deserve to be thrown to the ground for needing to collect her own child, IMHO. That behavior is outrageous. There was, by all accounts, nothing dangerous happening in the Mc Donalds until the cops came in.
There will be more lawsuits by the reporters I think. Those actions will cost the FPD some serious money.

 

[Gypsy Road]

I wish someone would ask her why she didn't just turn over the tape to the FBI. What was her purpose in giving it to CNN in the first place? Just curious---did CNN pay her for the tape?

Took the words right out of my mouth. If she has so much integrity....why didn't she just turn it over to the FBI and let them investigate?

 

[Truthy]

That really STINKS!! And I'm with you about the Sudafed. I have terrible sinus congestion problems living here in wet and moldy NW FLA, and Sudafed is the only thing that helps clear my head! You are right...the other substitutes stuff is a JOKE!

I would seriously recommend trying a neti pot. I used to get 3-4 infections a year, also getting nto the ear canal- so painful!
If you add xilitol to the saline mix, it breaks up the infection very quickly too. Sudafed is great, but it makes me too jumpy.

 

[gngr~snap]

Took the words right out of my mouth. If she has so much integrity....why didn't she just turn it over to the FBI and let them investigate?

The FBI had it already CNN called her.

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[Truthy]

It seems like 50 shades of cray cray to me.

I must be misunderstanding you- the struggle for civil rights was or is "cray cray"? Please elaborate.

 

[Muffet]

What I want most is (cliché alert) is closure. As much as possible, for everyone. ASAP

To that end, all I'm really focused on now is establishing objective facts about the case and the laws around it.

So I'm most interested in the detailed results and forensic analysis of the autopsy and ballistics.
My question is, how much of that should we expect to be included in the data dump the DA promised us if the grand jury does not indict?


I know there will always be some groups and individuals who will not be willing or able to let go of preconceptions, bias, or retract stated positions, and there are many who will support and propagate lies and/or claim conspiracy theories forever, no matter what the facts show.

But facts are stubborn things, so the more we have, the better.
I would hate to have to go through a trial or two to get things all on the table just for the public's comfort. Particularly since even trials don't allow all evidence or preclude spin.

 

[Phoebeb]

I think it's a possibility that MB had to pull those pants up- look how far down they are- could that have looked like he was going for a weapon to OW?

Not sure where your brother lives but he might want to brush up on the actual laws. The rest of your post is pure speculation. You don't know what Officer Wilson KNEW or didn't know. It is Wilson's perception of the situation not anyone else's, especially not in "hindsight"

 

[Kimster]

An audio recording of gunfire allegedly from the Michael Brown shooting was created at 12:02:14 p.m. on August 9, the company that runs the social messaging application that captured the sounds said Thursday.

CNN previously reported that Brown was shot in Ferguson, Missouri, shortly after noon that day.

Get complete coverage of breaking news on CNN TV, CNN.com and CNN Mobile.

 

[UdbCrzy2]

They tricked cops into refusing to ID themselves? INYO, how would that work? It was unreasonable for the woman to be united with her minor child how exactly- she is responsible for that child, and did not deserve to be thrown to the ground for needing to collect her own child, IMHO. That behavior is outrageous. There was, by all accounts, nothing dangerous happening in the Mc Donalds until the cops came in.
There will be more lawsuits by the reporters I think. Those actions will cost the FPD some serious money.

There were many dangerous things happening in Ferguson. What if everyone wanted to wait for their rides before leaving the building?

 

[gngr~snap]

"Blumenthal felt it was important to make sure that the authorities got a hold of the recording, though she wasn’t intent on a massive media rollout. But CNN called, and she cooperated with the network on the terms under which the network presented the material to its viewers — for example, she insisted that only the audio component of the recording — and not the video, which would have outed the recorder — would be aired on CNN."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ress-of-hoax-comment-regarding-ferguson-tape/

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[cady]

Darn. Sounds like maybe that was the full audio, and didn't record the first shot. Still hoping FBI has it, but hope is fading fast. Sigh. JMO