MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #17

[K_Z]

I apologize for the "out of sequence" reply post to a topic earlier today, but I'm catching up (long day!) and the old thread is closed.

Originally Posted by Muffet

That's Shahid* standing with MB's mom, and I can't figure out what those white things are, either.
Some look like modified tennis balls.
Weird.

BBM
Sorry I'm behind and may have missed an answer.

To me, those things look like vid cameras for attaching to athletes (bikers, surfers, rock climbers) to record action from their POV.
W a quick search, I can't find any images.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...teen-Michael-Brown-16&p=10939890#post10939890

Anthony Shahid is rather known for his costume-line apparel at protests and rallies. He often appears wearing multiple stuffed animals knotted macramé-style", into stylized, crafted little nooses, that he then wears as an accessory around his neck. Presumably, he wears them as some kind of protest statement, but I have to admit that whatever symbolism he was trying to communicate is completely lost on me. He wears the noose accessories so often, I think they have lost whatever symbolic value they originally had. They just seem really odd, caricature-like, and provocative, which is maybe all he was going for with that fashion statement, IDK! (I'm trying to be offended by the stuffed animal noose accessories, but strangely find I can't muster up any angst or outrage about that. I must be dense.)

Really illuminating article about Anthony Shahid here:

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2003-02-19/news/who-s-afraid-of-anthony-shahid/full/

BBM.

Shahid didn't take the time to explain. He organized a protest march outside the hospital. A hangman's noose around his neck, he led chants, gestured for TV cameras and watched with satisfaction as cops flooded the scene. Then he made a phone call.

Shahid wears KKK robes to aldermanic and police board meetings, dangles a noose from his neck, carries empty caskets, heavy with ghosts. By St. Louis standards, he's an attention-seeker who shoves aside the boundaries other people have set for themselves, inflaming situations that should be handled with civilized restraint.

This is more of an "explanation" about the symbolism of his "protest" fashion statements:

Brother Shahid, as he is known in the community, has protested in Ferguson brandishing stuffed dogs, chains, a noose, a whip and wearing a black cloak and black police hat. He explained his choice of symbols.

“The dogs symbolize our doggedness as a people,” Shahid said. “The dog is man’s best friend, but they put the dogs on us.”

The chains: “I wear these chains to remind people we are still breaking the chains of slavery.”

The whip: “I carry the whip because they said, ‘If he hollers, let him go.’ They beat us until we hollered. Only then would they let us go.”

The noose: “I carry the noose because of what Billie Holiday sang, ‘Strange Fruit.’ They hung us from trees and left our bodies hanging there to rot on trees and intimidate other black people.’”

According to eyewitnesses, Ferguson Police left Brown’s corpse lying in plain sight on Canfield Drive for four hours in the middle of the day, surrounded by angry and grieving residents who became the protest movement’s hard core.

The black cloak: “I wear black because black is always the bad guy. I am trying to turn that around.”

The police hat: “I wear the police hat because the police are killing us – and because we need to see more black police leaders.”

Shahid’s protest costumes also include, most notoriously, a Ku Klux Klan outfit.

http://tntribune.com/community/national/anthony-shahid-remains-at-front-lines-in-ferguson/


A few pics from web images (search Anthony Shahid images):

 

[Linda7NJ]

I apologize for the "out of sequence" reply post to a topic earlier today, but I'm catching up (long day!) and the old thread is closed.



http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...teen-Michael-Brown-16&p=10939890#post10939890

Anthony Shahid is rather known for his costume-line apparel at protests and rallies. He often appears wearing multiple stuffed animals knotted macramé-style", into stylized, crafted little nooses, that he then wears as an accessory around his neck. Presumably, he wears them as some kind of protest statement, but I have to admit that whatever symbolism he was trying to communicate is completely lost on me. He wears the noose accessories so often, I think they have lost whatever symbolic value they originally had. They just seem really odd, caricature-like, and provocative, which is maybe all he was going for with that fashion statement, IDK! (I'm trying to be offended by the stuffed animal noose accessories, but strangely find I can't muster up any angst or outrage about that. I must be dense.)

Really illuminating article about Anthony Shahid here:

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2003-02-19/news/who-s-afraid-of-anthony-shahid/full/

BBM.





This is more of an "explanation" about the symbolism of his "protest" fashion statements:



http://tntribune.com/community/national/anthony-shahid-remains-at-front-lines-in-ferguson/


A few pics from web images (search Anthony Shahid images):

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He's an embarrassment! IMO



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[Apollo]

They honestly should be ashamed by their own behavior and ignorance of the system
they wish to change.
It's truly pathetic.
It's no wonder they feel so marginalized, unheard and unrepresented.
The problem is theirs, the ignorance is theirs, the inability to effect change is theirs.

Good grief people! Crack a damn book! Educate yourself on the system you wish to change.




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And the inability to listen to anyone else is theirs. How can anyone learn anything if the only person they listen to is themselves ranting.

 

[krimekat]

I will say this. About 200 people showed up for this meeting. I was actually surprised there weren't more there. For a city the size of about 200,000 that is about .01% of the population and many of those people were not even from Ferguson. So for every nut job that showed up tonight, there were about 1,000 smart people who stayed away. At least that gives me hope.

Ferguson has approx 21K residents not 200K

 

[reedus23]

Mature adults don't require a "yell phase." A city council is under no obligation to respond to threats and insults from people out of control. What they can do is tighten up restrictions in order to force those people elsewhere and the first place they will start is to reduce the government-subsidized housing.

Yeah, that's it. Good lord.

 

[Linda7NJ]

IMO if ya keep looking back...you can't move forward very well.

<mod snip>




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[sorrell skye]

The city council meetings have been announced in the newspapers routinely. Anyone can sign up for 2 minutes to speak. Most of them were complaining about things not having to do with MB. So there was nothing stopping any of them from speaking before the council earlier.

True. But then, being informed would require effort, and would require the victim card to be relinquished.

That victim card is a precious possession, for some folks. Without it, personal responsibility comes a'knockin'.

This meeting tonight was a real eye opener, for me.

 

[TheDuchess]

Ferguson has approx 21K residents not 200K

Oh CARP!!! I knew I'd get the math wrong!!! LOL!!! (And I literally just helped my daughter with her math homework!!!)

OK - so then 1% of the population showed up and 99% stayed home. So for every 1 person there 99 people stayed home. Oh man...did I get that right? Guess I'm just trying to find a silver lining....hoping that a good portion of that 99% are normal??

 

[Apollo]

Did you watch the speakers CoolJ? I listened very closely. Imo, there were very few cohesive or even rational statements. Everything devolved into
histrionics, or accusations of a KKK underground, or corrupt white power structures. How can anyone answer that? Holy Cow is right. :cow:

I wish one of the City Council members would have been able to say at the end "What I'm hearing is that most of you have been unhappy about the way things have been run for a long long time. How many of you have ever been to a Council meeting before to express your concerns?" The formor mayor tried to make that point and those of us that watched know what happened to him.

 

[reedus23]

The city council meetings have been announced in the newspapers routinely. Anyone can sign up for 2 minutes to speak. Most of them were complaining about things not having to do with MB. So there was nothing stopping any of them from speaking before the council earlier.

I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. I meant since the shooting.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Well, I did tell her to make sure she doesn't run on the streets. It can be bad for her health. Running on the grass is much easier on her feet, knees and back.

So pleased you were so nice as to give her advice.

 

[Linda7NJ]

What upsets me most....these same people are raising children!!!

Good grief!




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[sonjay]

I was out and offline all evening, and I get back and start reading to catch up and ..... OMG. The situation appears to be even more dire and extreme than I thought. Wow. Just wow. <self snip> <self snip> Sadly, there's nothing I can think of to say that wouldn't be mod-snipped.

They need to clear OW post-haste, and let that poor man get on with his life somewhere else.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I was out and offline all evening, and I get back and start reading to catch up and ..... OMG. The situation appears to be even more dire and extreme than I thought. Wow. Just wow. <self snip> <self snip> Sadly, there's nothing I can think of to say that wouldn't be mod-snipped.

They need to clear OW post-haste, and let that poor man get on with his life somewhere else.

I hear Hawaii is nice...


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[TheDuchess]

To listen to that crowd...my guess is jail or in hiding fearing arrest on warrants.


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No seriously though....I wonder if the residents of Ferguson, MO feel they were well represented tonight.

 

[reedus23]

I was out and offline all evening, and I get back and start reading to catch up and ..... OMG. The situation appears to be even more dire and extreme than I thought. Wow. Just wow. <self snip> <self snip> Sadly, there's nothing I can think of to say that wouldn't be mod-snipped.

They need to clear OW post-haste, and let that poor man get on with his life somewhere else.

That is almost as bad as someone saying OW should be charged with no GJ or preliminary hearing. How about the system plays itself out and he'll be charged or not charged in due course.

 

[katydid23]

No seriously though....I wonder if the residents of Ferguson, MO feel they were well represented tonight.

Probably.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I'm 50ish...... NEVER in my life have I ever seen such hate/racism.

I'll tell you something, neither have I!

I am so thankful to live in my racially diverse area where this problem doesn't exist!

I live about 30-40 minutes away from the murder capital of the country. Camden.
They've restructured the police force and have had some success.

"For too long, Camden has been one of the most dangerous cities in New Jersey, and in America," said Governor Chris Christie in his State of the State Address this year. He wasn't kidding.

Plagued by drugs, homelessness and poverty, Camden had the highest crime rate in the nation among cities of 75,000 residents or more, according to CQ Press' City Crime Rankings 2014, which are based on an analysis of FBI statistics from 2012.

Last spring, the state transferred the responsibility of policing Camden from the city to the county. It seems to be helping. More officers have been hired and manpower is up about 30%, according to chief Scott Thomson.

Related: 10 cities people are moving to

"We've been able to put more officers in unstable neighborhoods and suppress flagrant crime," he said.

Camden recorded 57 homicides in 2013, down from 67 the year before and violent crime of all types fell 38% year-over-year in January, according to Thomson.

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/real_estate/2014/02/03/dangerous-cities/

Racism isn't the problem there. Everyone knows it. It's the drugs, gangs and poverty.






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[SStarr33]

No seriously though....I wonder if the residents of Ferguson, MO feel they were well represented tonight.

The non-racists have to be mortified. The optics are terrible.

 

[reedus23]

Ok, I'm done with the serious stuff for the night. It all becomes so repetitive after a while.

Just for fun. Feel free to ignore. Gonna test the sleuthers' sleuthing capabilities. This should be easy an easy one for y'all and there is kind of sort of a connection to the case.

There is a former St. Louis County judge who was hired by the Missouri Attorney General Koster to run the civil rights division among other things (though she may now be retired all together. Not sure). This Judge has a very very famous dad. Who was he? If I give the name of the Judge it will just be too simple.