MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #18

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #541
  • #542
I only just learned the other day from this case that there can't be a civil suit unless OW is arrested.

So if the GJ decides it won't indict, and then OW isn't arrested, then what?

Do these clowns fold up their tents and leave, or what?

Yes there can be a civil suit brought without an arrest. IMO

The problem is they're expensive to bring forth and the goal is an quick easy settlement. IMO




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
  • #543
IMO I'm
Not even convinced she was shot!

I'm not either.

She majored in Afro-American studies and political science at Howard. So she was an activist already.
She released a book of poetry, available on Amazon - Uneasy Comfort.

How wonderful for her career, to have gotten shot in the head, but very non-seriously, during a "peaceful protest" demanding justice for Mike Brown.

After all the lies and manipulation we've seen so far, I have to take everything with not just a grain, but a generous helping of salt. Sorry, but I'm not buying what she's selling.

We'll be hearing more from and about Mya in the future, I'm sure.
 
  • #544
Seems some may be more interesting in civil suit than upholding justice for OW. If he is arrested and no charges are filed, OW will have the civil suit. JMO

I only just learned the other day from this case that there can't be a civil suit unless OW is arrested.

So if the GJ decides it won't indict, and then OW isn't arrested, then what?

Do these clowns fold up their tents and leave, or what?
 
  • #545
Yeah, I got no problem with those things. I do have a problem if they haven't done anything to investigate it though.

She says they haven't talked to her then she said they asked her what happened and she said who got shot "obviously". I'm thinking part of that "what happened" was part of their report that night. How are they supposed to find out who shot her until the protesters that were there speak up and say something.
 
  • #546
  • #547
I'm really curious now....

If the local Brown family attorney was in court and Mike Brown had truly never had any sort of juvenile record, why did he not request to unseal the records??

"Anthony Gray, the lawyer who represented Brown’s parents, reportedly remained silent during the court hearing on Wednesday, but told the Post-Dispatch outside the courtroom that that the request for the juvenile records only meant that the organization wanted “the character assassination of Mike Brown.”




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
  • #548
I only just learned the other day from this case that there can't be a civil suit unless OW is arrested.

So if the GJ decides it won't indict, and then OW isn't arrested, then what?

Do these clowns fold up their tents and leave, or what?

Good question. The Supreme Court has decided that police officers do have an immunity from lawsuits if the shooting is ruled justified. Here's an opinion piece that explains it better than I can.

The Supreme Court reversed the decision of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and ruled unanimously in favor of the police. Justice Samuel Alito said that the driver’s conduct posed a “grave public safety risk” and that the police were justified in shooting at the car to stop it. The court said it “stands to reason that, if police officers are justified in firing at a suspect in order to end a severe threat to public safety, the officers need not stop shooting until the threat has ended.”


http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/s...9-how-the-supreme-court-protects-bad-cops.ece
 
  • #549
I'm really curious now....

If the local Brown family attorney was in court and Mike Brown had truly never had any sort of juvenile record, why did he not request to unseal the records??

"Anthony Gray, the lawyer who represented Brown’s parents, reportedly remained silent during the court hearing on Wednesday, but told the Post-Dispatch outside the courtroom that that the request for the juvenile records only meant that the organization wanted “the character assassination of Mike Brown.”




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Why even show up at court if he doesn't even have any records?
 
  • #550
I'm really curious now....

If the local Brown family attorney was in court and Mike Brown had truly never had any sort of juvenile record, why did he not request to unseal the records??

"Anthony Gray, the lawyer who represented Brown’s parents, reportedly remained silent during the court hearing on Wednesday, but told the Post-Dispatch outside the courtroom that that the request for the juvenile records only meant that the organization wanted “the character assassination of Mike Brown.”




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He didn't want to go on record with the court. He can't lie to the court or pretend there is no record.

His silence might have something to do with the D.A.'s promise that if there is no indictment, he will ask the Court to order everything to be made public. I think the Ferguson Police Department was well acquainted with Mike Brown and his pals. There's a history, no doubt in my mind.
 
  • #551
Why even show up at court if he doesn't even have any records?

Because he doesn't know for certain if there are records or what is in them. Lawyers lie outside of court all the time but if they lie TO the court, they usually face consequences.

JMO
 
  • #552
Because he doesn't know for certain if there are records or what is in them. Lawyers lie outside of court all the time but if they lie TO the court, they usually face consequences.

JMO

Who doesn't know if there are records and what is in them? Brown's lawyer's?
 
  • #553
Yes I know...it is msnbc. :shame:
Ronan Farrow @RonanFarrow

"Keep this movement going. Keep my son in your hearts." Michael Brown Sr tells me the prosecutor never contacted him
......
Monday at 1pm ET: Part 2 of my conversation with a powerful Michael Brown Sr. - including his response to how police treated his son's body.

http://www.msnbc.com/ronan-farrow/watch/michael-browns-father-a-quest-for-justice-328706115695

as


Crump explains a new recording caught the "play by play" and was "contemporaneous."

Sarc alert:
So LEO in background putting up crime scene tape in background --
(as landscaper contract-dude demonstrated 'hands-up') anticipated the shooting of MB? End sarc. LOL.
 
  • #554
Who doesn't know if there are records and what is in them? Brown's lawyer's?

The attorneys have no more access to the actual records than you or I have access.
 
  • #555
You can bet your sweet bippy that the Brown family knows exactly what's in those records that their baby accumulated. I'm guessing that they would tell their lawyer everything in case something comes up. So maybe lawfully the family lawyer can't review the records but he knows.
 
  • #556
You can bet your sweet bippy that the Brown family knows exactly what's in those records that their baby accumulated. I'm guessing that they would tell their lawyer everything in case something comes up. So maybe lawfully the family lawyer can't review the records but he knows.

What the lawyer doesn't know is....if the parents are telling him the truth.
 
  • #557
You can bet your sweet bippy that the Brown family knows exactly what's in those records that their baby accumulated. I'm guessing that they would tell their lawyer everything in case something comes up. So maybe lawfully the family lawyer can't review the records but he knows.

Well, we know for sure there's a record; Parks all but admitted it when he said, "He may have had some situations that may have occurred as a juvenile." Parks knows there's a record, and he knows that we know there's a record. Parks (or was it Crump?) also made some vague references to possible truancy & other very minor juvenile offenses.

That's why I find it so interesting that they're fighting so hard to keep the record sealed. If MB's juvie record contained nothing but truancy and other minor juvenile offenses, they'd likely want to release the entire record so as to expose the "lie" by the people who are suggesting more serious offenses.

The fact that they're fighting so gosh-darn vigorously to keep that record sealed strongly suggests to me that the record contains much more serious offenses than truancy. Which, to me, makes it that much more likely that the record contains instances of behavior that would be relevant to this case, and that would seriously damage the false narrative that they've so carefully crafted.

If Parks & Crump haven't been allowed to review the record, they may not know exactly what-all is in there, but they know enough about it from what the parents have told them that they know they have to keep those records sealed at all costs.

They've whipped up an entire town into a frenzy of rioting and looting, with MB's innocence as one of the foundational underpinnings. They're the ones who have made such a big deal out of MB's innocence. In a court of law, when one side makes a big deal of a person's good character, the other side is generally allowed to introduce evidence rebutting that. IMO, fairness calls for the same latitude in the court of public opinion, as well.

And FTR, if OW has disciplinary problems in his record, I hope that also comes to light. If we have full backgrounds on both of these men, then we'll have an even clearer picture of what likely happened on that day in the street.
 
  • #558
IMO the police will always be viewed by criminals as the enemy. Race is irrelevant.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly what I suspected, Linda!

I've even heard one of the black protestor "leaders" who took over the Chief of Police's news conference early on condemn our black commander-in-chief because he was involved with global issues instead of Fergus*n's issues! Imagine that?!
I think this protestor "leader" may have been a NBP member because he had on a uniform-type of attire but I'm sure if anyone wants to watch it (ugh) --- probably on the timeline thread.
 
  • #559
http://www.stltoday.com/business/lo...cle_b28e2e61-b9f6-5593-b439-23702053c818.html

In a separate move, some protesters plan to stage a boycott of Ferguson businesses starting Saturday. Many of the protests have largely been on West Florissant, further east. But Charles Mayo said he and others planned to picket outside of businesses on South Florissant every Saturday until business owners helped pressure Ferguson Mayor James Knowles and Police Chief Thomas Jackson to step down.

************************************************

So the protesters are going to try to bully the business owners into bullying Mayor Knowles and Chief Jackson to resign.

:gaah:

Holding the city hostage until demands are met, burning buildings down and threatening to burn others, attacking people with projectiles. Seems terroristic to me.
 
  • #560
Why would she need an attorney if she did nothing wrong? That makes no sense. In fact, a lot of her story sounds screwy.

Yes, why would a legal assistant at a union law firm go to a Michael Brown riot then complain of being shot, retain a lawyer, and accuse police of not investigating, when a police report was taken and an investigation is ongoing?

“We cannot live in communities where men are targeted and can be killed by the police,” said Chelsea-Lyn Rudder, spokesperson for SEIU 1199, a 400,000-member local of the larger Service Employees International Union. SEIU 1199 is a lead sponsor for this weekend’s March For Justice For Victims Of Police Brutality, an effort led by Sharpton aimed at drawing attention to Brown’s death as well as other high-profile police-related deaths like Sean Bell and Eric Garner.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/organized-labor-ferguson#391a38e

http://www.seiu.org/2014/08/statement-by-seiu-president-mary-kay-henry-on-ferg.php
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
56
Guests online
1,397
Total visitors
1,453

Forum statistics

Threads
632,330
Messages
18,624,822
Members
243,092
Latest member
senyazv
Back
Top