MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #2

[Wysteria]

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Trooper in charge of #Ferguson security says there will be a change Saturday protesters will like. via @JeffBernthal

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Why am I not surprised?

Get up off of your knees and try to retain a modicum of decency. Evidently some of the protesters really believe that a LEO shot and killed a man on his knees with his hands up. At least it's better than burning and rioting and throwing things.

Thank you popsicle for the info. even if it does gag me. Ark.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Just to be informed:
Gassing your own population is against the Geneva Convention.
http://www.state.gov/t/isn/4784.htm

You might actually want to read your own link

 

[Ladylub]

My mistake. I'm finally able to connect to the video. Tonight it's the residents driving journalists out instead of the police. That would definitely be not an everyday occurrence. Sad that people reach this point of desperation that they make choices that will actually cause long-term harm to their communities. Violence/oppression is never the solution. Very sad.

Im sorry but those out there causing these issues are not the ones that actually care. Those out there looting do not care about Mike Brown they are using his name to commit crimes. The looters and the peaceful protesters are 2 different groups.

 

[MyBelle]

And that's not the statute in question. I'm not on my laptop so I can't requote the proper statute, but it's up thread. The accurate statute relates to robbery in the second degree. That's a different charge from armed robbery which is what you are quoting.

We've already went over this. It is written in Newsweek. It's not armed robbery, plain and simple. If you disagree with Newsweek, that's fine, that's your opinion. But you clearly aren't agreeing with what's written and that's fine, I respect your opinion.

Robbery in the second degree is a felony in Missouri. That is a fact. The statute I posted several times now applies all felonies and applies to those where "arms" are used. Of course, you don't have to believe or agree with the existing statute. Time to move on.

 

[Simply Caustic]

There has been no racial profiling in this case. Your suggestion that these criminals have resorted to looting, arson and crime because they are "frustrated" has no basis in fact. This is criminal misconduct under United States and Missouri code. International laws really don't apply. Sorry.

JMO

According to some Twitter people, the ONLY reason the looting started, is because the police showed up.

Yep. Had they never shown, this wouldn't have happened! But, they did it intentionally to spark unrest. You know how police like to do that.

When I read the Twitter comments, I had no words. And I have a big Irish mouth and I always have words.

This is devolving into insanity, all of it.

 

[MyBelle]

What should law enforcement do to stop the looting and rioting?

They are allowed to apply force. Am I the only person here old enough to remember Kent State?

 

[Simply Caustic]

Robbery in the second degree is a felony in Missouri. That is a fact. The statute I posted several times now applies all felonies and applies to those where "arms" are used. Of course, you don't have to believe or agree with the existing statute. Time to move on.

I agree. But, he wasn't armed, as defined by the statute. The police called him a suspect in the second degree robbery, and that's the reason he would have been a candidate for probation(which is how this whole conversation started).

 

[katydid23]

Imagine that!

My own has also never had a problem, granted he's only 16...but he's 6'2" and pretty buff.

My son is 26 now. But when he was a teen, I was way more worried he would be shot by another teen than I was worried that a cop would kill him. I think the worried parents in Missourri need to reevaluate the dangers that their young men are facing.

 

[Muffet]

The police chief said definitively that Michael Brown was not stopped because of being suspected in a robbery. http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

I'm not sure what to say.... My post you replied to (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10863798 ) showed that there was more than a single definitive statement.

If you choose to only believe your one, *and* deem his others to be lies, that's certainly your right.

It doesn't contradict the others, though, so no one has to be lying.

As a whole, they make sense and fit with the change / turn-around MB's partner described.


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[AuburnTxTiger]

They are allowed to apply force. Am I the only person here old enough to remember Kent State?

No you are not! Those were white national guard members and white Kent State University students who were protesting the Viet Name War.

 

[Simply Caustic]

Robbery in the second degree is a felony in Missouri. That is a fact. The statute I posted several times now applies all felonies and applies to those where "arms" are used. Of course, you don't have to believe or agree with the existing statute. Time to move on.

I get it! I finally get what you were saying. That perhaps they would have charged him with armed robbery, due to his physical attack.

Sometimes, the written word can't convey what comes across so easily spoken.

I'm pretty satisfied at finally getting what you meant.

 

[Simply Caustic]

Mine too! Shocking ideas after seeing the strong armed robbery video from today.

According to Twitter, that video was from June, and the police changed the dates to make MB look poorly (as if a two month difference in dates of the crime, would matter).

I promise this is the last idiocy nugget from Twitter I'll share. I couldn't keep it to myself.

 

[IndDia]

They are allowed to apply force. Am I the only person here old enough to remember Kent State?

Yeah, how'd that work out? Let's just instate a full police state/lockdown and every civilian be damned. Good solution. Or, maybe the police could do what they're doing tonight and show restraint. Despite the fear mongers (http://new.livestream.com/timcast/events/3295551) who are waiting breathlessly for a riot, it seems the police who have tried to practice solidarity instead of repression have managed to keep the peace!

 

[MyBelle]

Why am I not surprised?

Get up off of your knees and try to retain a modicum of decency. Evidently some of the protesters really believe that a LEO shot and killed a man on his knees with his hands up. At least it's better than burning and rioting and throwing things.

Thank you popsicle for the info. even if it does gag me. Ark.

What they are choosing to believe is that a white police officer without probable cause stopped two angelic teenagers for no other reason than because they were black, he then slaughtered one for no reason other than he was black. Now everybody knows that didn't happen. The gig is up, thus the violence.

The escalating violence is going to result in deadly force, imo. It's pretty obvious that the Governor's solution to place a black officer in charge wasn't the solution because these folks looting and torching businesses aren't all black, imo. I think the aldermen have figured out the common denominator isn't race, it's that they are criminals.

JMO

 

[Simply Caustic]

Yeah, how'd that work out? Let's just instate a full police state/lockdown and every civilian be damned. Good solution. Or, maybe the police could do what they're doing tonight and show restraint. Despite the fear mongers (http://new.livestream.com/timcast/events/3295551) who are waiting breathlessly for a riot, it seems the police who have tried to practice solidarity instead of repression have managed to keep the peace!

I wouldn't be surprised to see the National Guard or some other fashion of support squads being brought it.
Those businesses lost thousands of dollars. The streets are dangerous with looters. Something's gotta give. Jmo

 

[Beaglemania]

I remember Kent State. I am from Cleveland, OH. A sad day.

The Ferguson Chief of Police CLEARLY stated in a news conference today, " the officer was not aware of the robbery incident"..."the subject was engaged (stopped)for walking in the street"...jaywalking. Besides, even if the officer was aware of the incident, he shot ( numerous times) an unarmed individual. This is not a cause and effect situation...the cop just lost all restraint.

 

[Simply Caustic]

Now everybody knows that didn't happen. The gig is up, thus the violence.

The escalating violence is going to result in deadly force, imo. JMO

Snipped by me.

The above two lines sum up precisely what I think, as well. And I'm praying it doesn't devolve into violence...but who am I kidding?

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

According to Twitter, that video was from June, and the police changed the dates to make MB look poorly (as if a two month difference in dates of the crime, would matter).

I promise this is the last idiocy nugget from Twitter I'll share. I couldn't keep it to myself.

Earlier in this thread someone posted that they had heard on talk radio today a caller say that the strong armed robbery video released today had been photo shopped and was not MB. That makes as much sense to me as believing that a police officer had nothing better to do than shoot an innocent teen with a choir boy image. Just my opinion.

 

[sorrell skye]

I feel sad for the owners of the stores that got broken into and looted tonight.

As a self-employed healthcare professional, I'm angry (to put it mildly) that hardworking business owners have been targeted by thugs who apparently don't know the meaning of setting worthy goals and achieving something to be proud of. The low-life looters have no righteous ground upon which to stand. They can try to claim how misunderstood they are, how persecuted they are, but they have shown their true colors by their actions.

They detract from the righteous message of respect, equality, and justice that the peaceful protesters are trying to communicate.

I have zero respect for criminals.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Threatening media at "the link" trying to make them pay. Threatened to hit them with bottle.