MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #2

[LiveLaughLuv]

It seems really difficult to get a handle on the facts in this case.

I'm not sure that these witnesses going on TV and telling their story is helping matters.

I know yesterday the narrative started to include "he was down on his knees with his hands in the air," and now I'm reading that he was shot from above in the forehead.

Witness statements shouldn't be "evolving," as it starts to make me wonder if some might be adding to their statements based on what others are saying?

IDK if this is what is happening or not, but I am finding it hard to understand how his friend initially said, "he was running away," to MB received a shot to the head as the cop was standing over him?

The shot in the forehead came from the officers friend who went on a radio show to give his side of this..hearsay from her..

Another person, IIRC was DJ who said he was shot in the back, chest and head..

The head shot according to the officers mouthpiece was the last shot he fired.

To someone who already lie dying in the street from chest shots, this officer decides to shoot him in the head?

I expect an arrest of this officer if the autopsy shows that..he didn't need to kill him once he already fell to shots in his chest. That's just my belief..

 

[Simply Caustic]

The shot in the forehead came from the officers friend who went on a radio show to give his side of this..hearsay from her..

Another person, IIRC was DJ who said he was shot in the back, chest and head..

The head shot according to the officers mouthpiece was the last shot he fired.

To someone who already lie dying in the street from chest shots, this officer decides to shoot him in the head?

I expect an arrest of this officer if the autopsy shows that..he didn't need to kill him once he already fell to shots in his chest. That's just my belief..

Officer's mouthpiece? He gave a statement? You wrote that the officer's friend went on the radio to give his side...
Was this woman claiming that the officer instructed her to give his side? Sounds shady to me.

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[LiveLaughLuv]

Indeed, peaceful protests are to be respected. If any agency were to actively obstruct peaceful protest, I would be shouting from the rooftops.

I watched that live feed. That was insanity, last night. It was looting and threats to the news agencies that were filming. It was scary.
Nothing peaceful about looting, and my heart breaks for those business owners. Insurance costs are crippling to small businesses, and this will result in higher rates, if they aren't dropped by their insurance. These owners did nothing wrong, and they were robbed because...Why, exactly? Why is any group entitled to riot?
They aren't. That's why the police force was there, because of riots, to keep the peace. The comments I've read blaming LE for looting (on Twitter) blow my mind.
JMO

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you do realize those who did that destruction were not the peaceful protesters. I put a video up thread of Captain Ronald Johnson who said this.

Those are folks looking for a reason to loot, thieve and cause chaos, they are not seeking justice but adding fuel to an already immense fire..

 

[katydid23]

Fighting for his life against no weapons?

So, when MB put his hands up, wouldn't that be a perfect time to hold your weapon on him as you call for back up so they can cuff this big, scary dude?

Come on each behaved badly. The officer should have used restraint and not empty this damn weapon into a young man who was in surrender position..

That's like holding out the white flag of surrender and they get bombed anyway..

YES, fighting for his life against no weapons. Brown was a very big guy. And if he had managed to get his hands on the gun, it would have been over for Wilson. So YES, fighting for his life against an unarmed desperate man.

I agree that he should have waited for back up and not taken the last few shots. Totally agree.

 

[JeannaT]

The shot in the forehead came from the officers friend who went on a radio show to give his side of this..hearsay from her..

Another person, IIRC was DJ who said he was shot in the back, chest and head..

The head shot according to the officers mouthpiece was the last shot he fired.

To someone who already lie dying in the street from chest shots, this officer decides to shoot him in the head?

I expect an arrest of this officer if the autopsy shows that..he didn't need to kill him once he already fell to shots in his chest. That's just my belief..

None of the witnesses have said he was shot while he was on the ground.

Additionally, I think Piaget is mistaken in her interpretation. She witnessed a scuffle between Wilson and Brown, and guessed that he was trying to place Brown in the cop car. As others have said, he would be handcuffed first. I think Piaget just looked at the confrontation and made her best guess about what she was seeing.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Officer's mouthpiece? He gave a statement? You wrote that the officer's friend went on the radio to give his side...
Was this woman claiming that the officer instructed her to give his side? Sounds shady to me.

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I was being sarcastic, a lady friend of his went on a radio show to give his side of the story...

I don't know if it can be posted here or not..she made it sound very incriminating to MB, so the only way this gets sorted out is by an autopsy report. I also want to know what shoes MB had on at the time of his death..

Many questions, little answers right now..

 

[SStarr33]

I was being sarcastic, a lady friend of his went on a radio show to give his side of the story...

I don't know if it can be posted here or not..she made it sound very incriminating to MB, so the only way this gets sorted out is by an autopsy report. I also want to know what shoes MB had on at the time of his death..

Many questions, little answers right now..

He had flip flops on.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

None of the witnesses have said he was shot while he was on the ground.

Additionally, I think Piaget is mistaken in her interpretation. She witnessed a scuffle between Wilson and Brown, and guessed that he was trying to place Brown in the cop car. As others have said, he would be handcuffed first. I think Piaget just looked at the confrontation and made her best guess about what she was seeing.

I believe you might be mistaken. Then how did the shot to the forehead occur? While he was standing or already fatally wounded by the chest shots on the ground..

 

[cady]

Boytwnmom yes! please stick around. We need a lawyer here! JMO

 

[katydid23]

rsbm --

Respectfully, outside of a couple of posts by you in the last 10 minutes, I've never heard anyone give any characterization of the officer that is anything of the sort.

That is how Crump and the general public has been characterizing him, imo.

ETA:
From USA TODAY:

They've managed to cast themselves as a cross between Bull Connor, the iconic racist police chief of the segregation era, and the Keystone Cops.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...-missouri-police-editorials-debates/14086807/

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

He had flip flops on.

The person in the store had on flip flops. I'd like to know if that is what was on MB's feet at the time of his death.

Don't know if you can say for sure without evidence to show this..like the inventory of the ME as he is doing the autopsy.

 

[bettybaby00]

I was being sarcastic, a lady friend of his went on a radio show to give his side of the story...

I don't know if it can be posted here or not..she made it sound very incriminating to MB, so the only way this gets sorted out is by an autopsy report. I also want to know what shoes MB had on at the time of his death..

You lost me....why is this important?

Many questions, little answers right now..

Agreed

 

[SStarr33]

The person in the store had on flip flops. I'd like to know if that is what was on MB's feet at the time of his death.

Don't know if you can say for sure without evidence to show this..like the inventory of the ME as he is doing the autopsy.

His buddy that was with him said he was wearing flip flops and I believe the PR said the same thing.

 

[JeannaT]

I have to say this, about people complaining that Brown was being demonized and it is of no relevance whatsoever that he wasn't the young man his mother said he was.

When this first happened, and his mother was yelling to the reporter that he tried to do what was right, he graduated from high school (do you know how many young black boys graduate from high school? not many) and he was going on to college and despite that he was STILL GUNNED DOWN in the streets. All of his tremendous efforts to make something of himself, against all odds, were of no use and now he was dead on the street.

Well that just broke my heart. That kind of hopelessness and despair broke my heart. And I think it broke everyone's heart who saw that scene - and that caused people to righteously riot. It's awful.

But it wasn't true. He was shot for attacking a cop after robbing a store. Much less heartbreaking story, from where I sit.

 

[Muffet]

If I may make a request... Ahem... To allow princess moi to catch up, nobody post another message for about, say, maybe an hour?

(J/K, but is anyone else OCD about reading every post to the end? Ugh I don't know what to dooo!)

*hugs all*

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[JeannaT]

I was being sarcastic, a lady friend of his went on a radio show to give his side of the story...

I don't know if it can be posted here or not..she made it sound very incriminating to MB, so the only way this gets sorted out is by an autopsy report. I also want to know what shoes MB had on at the time of his death..

Many questions, little answers right now..

First, I HIGHLY doubt the rogue caller to the talk show had the cop's blessing so I'm not sure "mouthpiece" is an appropriate word. Acquaintance of the wife trying to steal her 5 seconds of fame is more like it.

Second, it's not in doubt that it was MB who robbed the store of the cigars. His friend admitted it was them, and he had the cigars on his person when he was shot.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

You lost me....why is this important?


Agreed

Only due to an allegation the store theft was from 6/9..not 8/9...if that comes out it was two months earlier, then it's CYA mode..

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

First, I HIGHLY doubt the rogue caller to the talk show had the cop's blessing so I'm not sure "mouthpiece" is an appropriate word. Acquaintance of the wife trying to steal her 5 seconds of fame is more like it.

Second, it's not in doubt that it was MB who robbed the store of the cigars. His friend admitted it was them, and he had the cigars on his person when he was shot.

I don't know when things changed here to tell me a word of mine is inappropriate to use? If I think she is being his mouthpiece for he surely didn't come forward, she is telling his side that's being his voice, his mouthpiece..and you have no clue whether she had his blessing or not..SMH

 

[JeannaT]

I don't know when things changed here to tell me a word of mine is inappropriate to use? If I think she is being his mouthpiece for he surely didn't come forward, she is telling his side that's being his voice, his mouthpiece..and you have no clue whether she had his blessing or not..SMH

None of us know whether she had his blessing. But as you indicate, if she said he stood over MB while he was on the ground and shot him in the head (I haven't listened to the tape, just taken your word that's what she said) then it's unbelievable - to me - that he is glad she went on the radio and said that.

 

[katydid23]

Only due to an allegation the store theft was from 6/9..not 8/9...if that comes out it was two months earlier, then it's CYA mode..

Why would Dorian Johnson admit it happened that same day, if it really happened in June?