MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #2

[K_Z]

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[Linda7NJ]

I don't think the officer was operating out hatred or active racism. I think he too is a product of his environment. I don't think he shot out of hatred, but out of fear based on racial bias - not necessarily a known, conscious racial bias, but one he picked up in his environment. And I also think he shot because not all jurisdictions train cops in de-escalation. Because the law supports cops in shooting first and asking later. I think the failure is more system-wide in this cop's jurisdiction, as opposed to a personal failure. He's a product of his training, really.

I'm sure he feels terrible, and I do feel sympathy for him. A great deal really. At the same time, he gets to go home to his family and still collect his check. He is alive, thank god. But MBs family and friends will now have to go on without him. And no one who loved him, and no one in the black community of Ferguson is assured that anything will change - that black men, regardless of class or behavior, whether they are armed or not, will continue to be treated differently than a white man in the same position.

It's SO sad that someone died when it could have been avoided. Another person's career is over. It didn't have to happen! What has happened to foot chases, follow up (interviews, picture line ups, talking to cooperative folks in the neighborhood, etc). I don't know. :banghead:


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I can't even begin to post a rebuttal to this post....just going to state I strongly disagree with darn near everything you wrote.

 

[Elainera]

This video is so disturbing on so many levels. Why on earth wasn't MB body covered with a tarp? The language doesn't bother me, but the screams of his mother are heart wrenching.

ETA: After 10 minutes, an officer did cover him with a sheet. I am having a hard time with the actions of the cops in this video. JMV

Exactly my thoughts too.

How long was he lying there uncovered, nobody tending to him? Why wasn't an ambulance there within 2 minutes of the shooting? The cops seem so nonchalant. Very disturbing.

Has the actual shooting also been caught on camera? Or part of it? I guess not, I only hear of eye witnesses.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Must be my computer. Neither links are working for me now.

Maybe that's why. I'm on my laptop, that works better than my ipad.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Exactly my thoughts too.

How long was he lying there uncovered, nobody tending to him? Why wasn't an ambulance there within 2 minutes of the shooting? The cops seem so nonchalant. Very disturbing.

Has the actual shooting also been caught on camera? Or part of it? I guess not, I only hear of eye witnesses.

He was doornail dead. No ambulance needed.

Their job was to secure the scene and wait for the medical examiner and forensics.

 

[popsicle]

Shimon Prokupecz ‏@ShimonPro 10m
One of the community leaders on megaphone saying things are gonna close at 1130 here. #Ferguson


Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 13m
A midnight curfew. This is like deadline theater.

Retweeted by Matt Pearce
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Ray Downs ‏@RayDowns 14m
Malik Shabazz walking down Florissant hugging young folks, telling them he's their "big brother" and that everyone should go home at 11:30.

Retweeted by Matt Pearce
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Ryan J. Reilly ‏@ryanjreilly 5m
"**** the police we ain't ever going home." -- crowd sitting on top of car #Ferguson


Shimon Prokupecz ‏@ShimonPro 4m
An increase of cops in full riot gear. #ferguson
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[SwampMama]

Yeah, that pic of the "memorial" of alcohol bottles, cigars and cough meds made quite an interesting display about his life. Mind you, he just made age 18 only 3 months ago so he isn't legal drinking age, cough meds are hardly a typical memorial item (given their illicit use in the rap world or drug world) and the cigars are interesting seeing as he had just stolen a great bunch of them. All in all, a cringe worthy display and not a touching one.

 

[Linda7NJ]

And what makes those refusing to obey the curfew think they're helping the situation?

What do they hope to accomplish?

It's disgusting, Stupid, and devalues the issue they claim to have.

Imo

 

[SStarr33]

Exactly my thoughts too.

How long was he lying there uncovered, nobody tending to him? Why wasn't an ambulance there within 2 minutes of the shooting? The cops seem so nonchalant. Very disturbing.

Has the actual shooting also been caught on camera? Or part of it? I guess not, I only hear of eye witnesses.

The shooting happened at 12:01 and the ambulance was contacted at 12:04

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/timeline-fatal-police-shooting-michael-brown-25003171

 

[popsicle]

Shimon Prokupecz ‏@ShimonPro 2m
Asked one of the cops here what his expectations were for the night, he said he hopes it pours. #Ferguson

 

[neverletgo]

I'm still catching up on this thread but one of our news stations here showed video of the FPD officer's home yesterday and there are a lot of angry, disappointed people. The news station issued an apology but many are saying it's "too little, too late." Comments here:

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/16/ksdk-issues-apology-to-officer-audience/14162149/

 

[krimekat]

Exactly my thoughts too.

How long was he lying there uncovered, nobody tending to him? Why wasn't an ambulance there within 2 minutes of the shooting? The cops seem so nonchalant. Very disturbing.

Has the actual shooting also been caught on camera? Or part of it? I guess not, I only hear of eye witnesses.

you can read in reports that EMS was there to treat him but LE was trying to secure the scene before EMS could get to him

and he was covered within 15 mins I recall local media reporting

 

[Linda7NJ]

Shimon Prokupecz ‏@ShimonPro 2m
Asked one of the cops here what his expectations were for the night, he said he hopes it pours. #Ferguson

Me too

 

[Lovejac]

And what makes those refusing to obey the curfew think they're helping the situation?

What do they hope to accomplish?

It's disgusting, Stupid, and devalues the issue they claim to have.

Imo

IMO they are only thinking of themselves, not MB. For the looters and destroyers, this is a perfect excuse to take things you want, without paying for them and be able to do it in the name of justice for MB.

 

[popsicle]

Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 48s
Sidewalk strategy session. "Approach your white brethren, and TELL THEM TO LEAVE!"

 

[Lovejac]

I'm still catching up on this thread but one of our news stations here showed video of the FPD officer's home yesterday and there are a lot of angry, disappointed people. The news station issued an apology but many are saying it's "too little, too late." Comments here:

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/16/ksdk-issues-apology-to-officer-audience/14162149/

:facepalm: How utterly stupid.

 

[LemonCloud]

He was doornail dead. No ambulance needed.

Their job was to secure the scene and wait for the medical examiner and forensics.

"Doornail dead"? Can we please show the deceased a little respect?

 

[popsicle]

Shimon Prokupecz ‏@ShimonPro 32s
More police have showed up #fergersun

 

[katydid23]

I have to say I am surprised and PLEASED to see this tweet:


RayDowns 14m
Malik Shabazz walking down Florissant hugging young folks, telling them he's their "big brother" and that everyone should go home at 11:30.




The New Black Panthers are usually on the wrong side of common sense. Glad to see even Shabazz, their leader, is urging the crowd to go home.

 

[popsicle]

You can just hear the rain falling hard too.