MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #21

[Truthy]

First, I apologize for misinterpreting/ misattributing the statement about the hospital xrays-- I was reading too fast, and the double negatives were confusing. I just wanted to clear up a misconception-- and with all of the other comments-- mission achieved!

As to your comment here, about the swollen face, I'm having a very, very hard time understanding why this is such an issue for you? Spokepeople say things all the time without personally being involved in whatever message they are delivering. Why is it so unbelievable that the officer was taken to a hospital with a swollen face?? Do you think he was somehow "faking" the swollen face?? Do you think OW assaulted himself in the heat of the moment, just so he could "pin it on MB?" Where exactly are you going with this line of thought?

I am extremely confused as to why this is even an issue. I can understand if you don't believe MB assaulted OW, but the fact of going to the ER with a swollen face? I don't get at all why that is a sticking point for you. It will so very easily be proven once evidence is released. What possible reason would the police chief have to make that up? Especially if he knew it was false, and would be "discovered"?

We both know swollen can describe anything from a few fractures to a mosquito bite. And the chief (who has been the source of other misinformation already) carefully distanced himself from any direct knowledge of the injury itself.
The big sticking point- as I said before- we did not see pics of him injured. Yet people talk here as if they had. It will be interesting to see good pics if and when they show up, but in the meantime referring to the injuries as if we had seen them is misleading, IMHO.
Same as referring to a preliminary autopsy or police report. Anonymous leaks of vague information do not constitute a detailed police report- yet people are linking to those as "proof".
MOO

 

[Lovejac]

https://twitter.com/nickpistor/status/513725482349518848

 

[Truthy]

What evidence exists within the statements of Johnson, Crenshaw and Mitchell? Been waiting for awhile now.

Exactly! We have no idea how closely they do or do not match other witnesses' statements. That is what I have been saying all along!
Thanks.

 

[Lovejac]

https://twitter.com/nickpistor/status/513726184568668161

 

[Truthy]

So, changing stories and inaccuracies are a problem when it comes to Jackson, but not to the original three witnesses the whole "excessive force" narrative is based on? Interesting!

It is a huge problem when inaccurate information comes from LEO. You may not hold them to a higher standard than ordinary citizens, but I do.

 

[oh_gal]

Silly question. The police have confirmed he is dead, dozens of witnesses and family to. No one who saw OW's injuries have actually described them on the record. Jackson described them- but as we know he says he did not see the injuries at all. Interesting he distanced himself that way.

(above, bbm)
How is that "distancing" himself? Maybe he was just telling the truth, as in, "I've heard this is what the injuries are, but I haven't seen them."

 

[Muffet]

RBBM - That, my friend, is called victim mentality. It's sad to see them teaching their children to be victims. This cycle will never end. imo

“Your complaints, your drama, your victim mentality, your whining, your blaming, and all of your excuses have NEVER gotten you even a single step closer to your goals or dreams. Let go of your nonsense.

Let go of the delusion that you DESERVE better and go EARN it! Today is a new day!"
- Steve Maroboli

[B&UBM]

Bayoubelle, thanks for that. :heartbeat:

Wouldn't it be nice if we could cover graffiti and other ugly things with such encouraging, TRULY EMPOWERING words and memes?

 

[Truthy]

(above, bbm)
How is that "distancing" himself? Maybe he was just telling the truth, as in, "I've heard this is what the injuries are, but I haven't seen them."

Distancing? It is literally that- because it puts him a whole degree of separation between the description of the injuries and his own judgement of them.
In other reports- it sounds as if he had direct knowledge of the injuries, but he made it clear he is repeating this info from someone else. Are we to assume he did not see DW that week at all?
Really odd that he did not see the injuries- but that came right out of his mouth.
MOO

 

[Lovejac]

https://twitter.com/nickpistor/status/513727866119659520

 

[Lovejac]

Nicholas J.C. Pistor@nickpistor · 1m

Let's face it. You need extremely large numbers to disrupt a 50,000 person #rams or #cardinals game. I don't see that happening.

https://twitter.com/nickpistor

 

[katydid23]

#MIKEBROWNCOVERUP ‏@mikebrowncover 1h
LIVESTREAM: "@AnonCopWatch: I will be livestreaming #NoJusticeNoFootball from my ustream channel http://www.ustream.tv/user/AnonCopWatch …" #Ferguson


Bassem Masri ‏@bassem_masri 3h
Livestreaming #NoJusticeNoFootball 12pmCT tune in #Ferguson revolution will b tweeted Retweeted &spread across the globe #ArrestDarrenWilson

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

So...what time is cluster fark football protest start?


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:laughing:

Let's see: On my bookmarks bar I have NFL Scores 2014, Steelers Nation Radio, Pittsburgh Steelers, Steelers Schedule 2014, and my FB page which is tagged by a combo of my two all-time favorite Steelers players' names. I would so love to be able to add "Cluster Fark Football" to that lineup to greet me every time I log on! lmao

 

[Lovejac]

https://twitter.com/nickpistor/status/513529616221630464

Some more chalk art from last night :giggle:

 

[katydid23]

michelemunz ‏@michelemunz 18m
See no signs of protests yet at Rams game. #NoJusticeNoFootball

 

[Truthy]

Not sure I understand why Mr. Brown is wearing a Tshirt with his pic on it. His ball cap still has the price sticker attached.
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Men can be seriously weird about their baseball hats, the leaving the sticker thing has been going on for at least 7-8 years- just like Minnie Pearl.
I'm glad the big wide Charlie Brown fitting ones are losing favor, those always struck me as odd. *Kids! Get off of my lawn*
LOL

 

[tlcya]

We both know swollen can describe anything from a few fractures to a mosquito bite. And the chief (who has been the source of other misinformation already) carefully distanced himself from any direct knowledge of the injury itself.
The big sticking point- as I said before- we did not see pics of him injured. Yet people talk here as if they had. It will be interesting to see good pics if and when they show up, but in the meantime referring to the injuries as if we had seen them is misleading, IMHO.
Same as referring to a preliminary autopsy or police report. Anonymous leaks of vague information do not constitute a detailed police report- yet people are linking to those as "proof".
MOO

1st BBM that itself is debatable and a matter of opinion not fact. I don't feel misinformed by the chief one little bit. Assuming that is a reference to the release of the convenience store video due to FOIA requests rather than a smear campaign.

2nd BBM we have also not seen pics of the actual shooting or the "scuffle" at the car and yet people seem to have very strong and deeply entrenched opinions on what happened there as well, from both sides of the debate.

fact=we have zero facts aside from the fact that an unarmed man was shot during some sort of confrontation with an armed police officer while that officer was on duty.

So the circular debate about which items should be seen as evidence and which should not is moot.

 

[K_Z]

We both know swollen can describe anything from a few fractures to a mosquito bite. And the chief (who has been the source of other misinformation already) carefully distanced himself from any direct knowledge of the injury itself.

The big sticking point- as I said before- we did not see pics of him injured. Yet people talk here as if they had. It will be interesting to see good pics if and when they show up, but in the meantime referring to the injuries as if we had seen them is misleading, IMHO.

Same as referring to a preliminary autopsy or police report. Anonymous leaks of vague information do not constitute a detailed police report- yet people are linking to those as "proof".
MOO

First BBM: Just as strong arm robbery with assault can be perceived as "shoplifting", and obstructing traffic while walking a double yellow line can be perceived as "jaywalking", and assault of an officer with attempt to take his weapon away is a "scuffle", and moving toward the officer to have a second try at assault and taking his gun, can be perceived as "surrendering" (just like in video games like GTA, dontcha know!)

Second BBM: Stating the truth when he was asked is not "distancing himself." And if the chief was truthful about not seeing OW's injuries before he was taken to hospital (and why exactly would the chief even have to "see" the injuries?), why do you insist the chief was lying about other things? The chief was truthful, imo.

And lastly, I don't remember anyone here saying they have seen OW's injuries. Where did you get that from??

JMO, but it seems to me you are pretty entrenched in your opinions that the chief is a liar, and no amount of proof or thoughtful discussion will change your mind. If so, that's fine, but it is hard to have a meaningful discussion if each side has to keep reiterating the same points with the same justification over and over. It becomes a stalemate, and conversation doesn't progress, IMO. And it kinda feels like baiting and interrupting the flow, IMO.

 

[katydid23]

George Sells ‏@GeorgeSells 7m
For the moment it appears the protest will not be outside the dome.Have seen some protestors in line to go in. @FOX2now #nojusticenofootball

 

[katydid23]

I guess thats why I cant find a lifestream. Nothing is happening for them to stream.

 

[K_Z]

https://twitter.com/nickpistor/status/513529616221630464

Some more chalk art from last night :giggle:

Hey, their spelling is improving! Maybe they asked the kids for help?

And where exactly did they get the sidewalk chalk, lol? I hope they didn't take it from a little kid's toys!