MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #24

[Trident]

There are plenty of countries that still do not allow for the freedom of expression and speech out there. Personally, I'll stay right here where people are free to say things even though I might not agree.

Thing is, we are not ALL free any more; some people are more free than others. Some do not have to answer for threats caught on camera, burning buildings, looting. The rest of us ARE held accountable.

 

[LambChop]

Do you think these "youngsters" are right or wrong? Do they even have a message that needs to be heard?

I do not think a $100 ticket is a right to protest. I thought they were protesting about MB. Threatening LE and their families will not win them support from the masses. Terrorizing citizens so they have asthma attacks (one was a child) and store owners that they feel the need to respond to protestor by showing them they had a gun is not the way to get your point across. Every single one, every single one of those officers took more abusive language from those protestors than any person should ever have to endure. If those officers could stand there and take that abuse with threats to their families they have shown their true colors. Not one reacted, not one. There is little sympathy for anyone who would do that. It's hard to make your point when you show the world you cannot control your anger. jmo

 

[reedus23]

Ironic: to have press and others continually minimize the crimes Michael committed and the crimes the rioters commit, but to jump on the crime the PR guy committed. Perhaps someone thought he'd speak the mob's language.

They should all be considered. One killed a man. One stole some Swishers and may or may not have hit an officer. Surely I'm forgetting something because it seems there has been more talked about with regard to MB but my coffee hasn't kicked in yet.

 

[krimekat]

But only SOME people are free to threaten, not others. This sure isn't MY country any more.

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IMHO these mobsters are destroying Ferguson's business base; it's no longer a peaceful protest & I have no idea why it's allowed to call for killing ODW or any LE; it totally illustrates the ignorance of these mobsters

 

[DebinGA]

So, Umar Lee, the one who led the NoFootball distraction campaign, was one of several arrested last night.

The belligerent <modsnip> lady was yelling, "I was walking with the chief, and I fell." She and <modsnip> Umar may have tripped over each other, causing a domino effect. The protesters intentionally separating Chief Jackson from his protection squad and preventing their reaching him in the march was the catalyst for LE moving in.

 

[Klood-N]

#FreeUmar @STLAbuBadu pic.twitter.com/BgHveXMd22

Anyone have an update on those who were arrested last night? Names, locations, charges, bail amounts?
https://mobile.twitter.com/AntonioFrench

 

[Trident]

I do not think a $100 ticket is a right to protest. I thought they were protesting about MB. Threatening LE and their families will not win them support from the masses. Terrorizing citizens so they have asthma attacks (one was a child) and store owners that they feel the need to respond to protestor by showing them they had a gun is not the way to get your point across. Every single one, every single one of those officers took more abusive language from those protestors than any person should ever have to endure. If those officers could stand there and take that abuse with threats to their families they have shown their true colors. Not one reacted, not one. There is little sympathy for anyone who would do that. It's hard to make your point when you show the world you cannot control your anger. jmo

Thing is, some do not deal with facts, only perception. We have been told over and over we have to be more understanding, cognizant of "feelings". Well, we've seen and heard these "feelings". How can anyone live with them?

 

[popsicle]

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[reedus23]

And what message, EXACTLY, do you think they have to tell us?

I have posted it before Trident. Racism is prevalent in north county and it is present in the LE community. Maybe not by all, but I know for a fact with 100% certainty that it exists with some. The message is that that is not acceptable and has no place in society.

 

[Trident]

You know what seems to actually be the prevailing theme in St. Louis from the people I talk to? No one cares. No one has paid attention to the protesting. No one cares if DW is charged or not charged. We get so caught up here following every little fact surrounding a case that I at least just assume everyone is. Then I will ask someone if they heard about how they were going to protest at the football and baseball games and people had never heard about it.

As for Chief Jackson, yes very brave. I don't know if it was the smartest decision by whoever told him to go out there last night. So what are the thoughts about Chief Jackson marching with the protesters briefly?

I don't care about the prevailing theme in St. Louis. I do CARE what the decent, law-abiding citizens of Ferguson think. I also wonder why the parents/friends/relatives of these "protestors" think. I wonder why they don't rein them in, or do they agree with them? If so, why? I've heard nothing of any consequence against LE or the officials in Ferguson, but I sure have seen the ignorance and violence of the "unheard" ones.

 

[krimekat]

"This is what democracy looks like"

No - this is what stupidity looks like.

LOL as if America is a democracy -- it's not, if one paid attention in school, one would know America is a Republic

I don't understand how anyone can sympathize with these mobsters :shame:

 

[Klood-N]

For those who missed it, advance vid to 10:00 and watch. Many of us saw it live.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sbwuRacRHHo&t=9m51s&feature=youtu.be

 

[DebinGA]

An attempt to calm tensions in the wake of the fatal shooting of unarmed teenager Michael Brown backfired spectacularly overnight when the police chief of Ferguson, Missouri, marched with protesters calling for his resignation.

By early Friday, police had declared the protests an "unlawful assembly" and ordered the crowd to leave.

At around 2 a.m. local time (3 a.m. ET), French said a crowd of protesters that had originally included hundreds of people had shrunk to about 100. More than 50 police officers stood in front of the police station.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...-chief-joins-michael-brown-protesters-n212076

""I don’t think he was marching with the protesters more than 30 seconds before the riot cops came out into the crowd and tried to get themselves closer to him and protect him," said French, a St. Louis elected official who has been following demonstrations since the Aug. 9 shooting and who supports calls for Jackson's resignation. "Just them being out there pushing started stuff — it’s a complete misread of the situation. His very presence agitated the crowd."

I hope people watching in St Louis got a clear picture of what happened. Jackson agreed to march and as he waded into the crowd his LE defenders were pushed back, leaving him isolated. When they pushed in to reach Jackson, the rioters pushed them back and began fighting with police. I don't consider that a "backfire" but a useful object lesson for those watching at home.

 

[Angelonline]

I don't think it's that easy. Do they have a message that needs to be heard? Absolutely. Do I think they are always going about getting the message out in an appropriate or even most effective way? Absolutely not.

Do they? What is it? All I have heard is screaming threats, name calling, name calling and some nonsensical chanting.

 

[krimekat]

For those who missed it, advance vid to 10:00 and watch. Many of us saw it live.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sbwuRacRHHo&t=9m51s&feature=youtu.be

Thanks! I cannot watch anymore of this ignorance . . .

 

[Klood-N]

The prevailing message last night was the rioters wanted all police and their families dead.

 

[reedus23]

Yeah, I'm having a hard time equating chasing people into the yard and shooting "self defense." But then, we are talking about Memphis where:

A number of years ago (25 or so?) an elderly Caucasian man came out of a store in a strip mall to find an African American man stealing his white Cadillac. The Caucasian man pulled out a gun and shot the African American man dead...while the man was driving off in the car. Yet the incident was ruled "self-defense," the theory being that the elderly guy was still in fear for his life.

Not long after that incident I was at a fast food restaurant catty-corner to this strip mall. When I came out, someone had parked and left a white Cadillac right behind my car, blocking me in. You better believe I just sat and waited until the owner of that car came out and moved on his own!

Lived in Memphis for a couple of years. Loved it there.

Yeah, I really do think it's great that this guy has made a life for himself. I just don't know if, with that background, he was the right man for the this job in particular.

 

[Klood-N]

""I don&#8217;t think he was marching with the protesters more than 30 seconds before the riot cops came out into the crowd and tried to get themselves closer to him and protect him," said French, a St. Louis elected official who has been following demonstrations since the Aug. 9 shooting and who supports calls for Jackson's resignation. "Just them being out there pushing started stuff &#8212; it&#8217;s a complete misread of the situation. His very presence agitated the crowd."

I hope people watching in St Louis got a clear picture of what happened. Jackson agreed to march and as he waded into the crowd his LE defenders were pushed back, leaving him isolated. When they pushed in to reach Jackson, the rioters pushed them back and began fighting with police. I don't consider that a "backfire" but a useful object lesson for those watching at home.

Like many others, Chief Jackson has received death threats. He or LE could have been injured or killed last night. I've supported him previously. Yesterday he made several important mistakes, IMO. If he truly did not recognize that this mob was dangerous, it's time for him to retire, or choose a new line of work.

 

[Klood-N]

Cops lied and preachers believed them .. Said if we get out the streets they'd release the ppl they locked up .. Of course not

Now they're claiming police beat someone
https://mobile.twitter.com/TefPoe

 

[DebinGA]

#FreeUmar @STLAbuBadu pic.twitter.com/BgHveXMd22

Anyone have an update on those who were arrested last night? Names, locations, charges, bail amounts?
https://mobile.twitter.com/AntonioFrench

And I'd like to know more about the two whites seemingly directing the action - the extremely tall, thin white guy wearing an orangey polo shirt, and the soccer-mom looking white woman w/short hair, dangly earrings, wearing pink top and print capris iirc.