MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

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  • #941
This proves 100% that his hands were NOT in the air. If his arms were in the air the bullet would have entered from the back of his arm not the front. Also there is no way that the officer would be firing at arms raised above his shoulders. The officer would be aiming for his center mass not at a spot above his shoulders.

Based on this report officer Wilson is completely vindicated!

Oh my word, if this is true all those people out there marching with their hands raised (depicting what they were told had happened) chanting don't shoot have been bamboozled. Very disturbing. Jmo

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  • #942
Not to single you or this post out, GardenLady, as it's only a small hint of a line of thought I've been noticing...

The line of thought I'm inferring from some is that painting with a broad brush, generalizing, judging one by many who wear the same colors is OK for some, but not others.

I don't want to take this too deep, but it's hard not to notice and I think this officer is suffering from prejudice too.

Isn't it wrong to assume the worst about a cop's guilt based on other cops' offenses?

The problem is that an unarmed teen is dead (another out of many). For a lot of us what he was doing 10 minutes before doesn't matter, he was unarmed, he was stupid, teens are, and he should never have been shot in the first place. He was fleeing.

He didn't deserve the death penalty and Wilson imposed it. That is what it boiled down to and many of the defenses I am hearing have to do with MB stealing..which isn't a death penalty crime.
 
  • #943
Black Talon bullets maybe? They fragment when they hit your body.[ i think they are illegal now but there is a new type used that fragments too]

But is that what Cops would use?
 
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  • #945
its only 11 17 pm in MO right now
 
  • #946
Why are people so cavalier about other people's pain? A an alleged veteran was teargassed and this is LOL material? I don't get the humor...

Here's the thing.... If law enforcement instructs people to leave an area for their own safety. They need to vacate. It does NOT matter that they may think they were doing nothing wrong. When the authorities, with guns, tear gas, rubber bullets tell people to move, they should move.
I have zero sympathy for those that refuse to follow directions. Zero.

All IMO


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  • #947
I'm far behind in the thread but just have to wonder what CNN is trying to prove. The anchor, Poppy, not sure last name is awful and someone else needs to take her spot.

JMO

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  • #948
The problem is that an unarmed teen is dead (another out of many). For a lot of us what he was doing 10 minutes before doesn't matter, he was unarmed, he was stupid, teens are, and he should never have been shot in the first place. He was fleeing.

He didn't deserve the death penalty and Wilson imposed it. That is what it boiled down to and many of the defenses I am hearing have to do with MB stealing..which isn't a death penalty crime.

Are you now claiming he was running backwards?


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  • #949
His arms may have been raised after the first shots; the head shots were the last ones.

Are you saying his arms may have been raised then he lowered them & was then shot in the arms?
 
  • #950
The problem is that an unarmed teen is dead (another out of many). For a lot of us what he was doing 10 minutes before doesn't matter, he was unarmed, he was stupid, teens are, and he should never have been shot in the first place. He was fleeing.

He didn't deserve the death penalty and Wilson imposed it. That is what it boiled down to and many of the defenses I am hearing have to do with MB stealing..which isn't a death penalty crime.

If he was fleeing, then how did he get shot in his front??
 
  • #951
The problem is that an unarmed teen is dead (another out of many). For a lot of us what he was doing 10 minutes before doesn't matter, he was unarmed, he was stupid, teens are, and he should never have been shot in the first place. He was fleeing.

He didn't deserve the death penalty and Wilson imposed it. That is what it boiled down to and many of the defenses I am hearing have to do with MB stealing..which isn't a death penalty crime.

Brown chose the death penalty.
 
  • #952
The problem is that an unarmed teen is dead (another out of many). For a lot of us what he was doing 10 minutes before doesn't matter, he was unarmed, he was stupid, teens are, and he should never have been shot in the first place. He was fleeing.

He didn't deserve the death penalty and Wilson imposed it. That is what it boiled down to and many of the defenses I am hearing have to do with MB stealing..which isn't a death penalty crime.

He was an adult. He committed a strong-arm robbery, physically assaulted a store clerk, helped himself to whatever he wanted, left, came back and towered over the clerk for further intimidation, strolled down the middle of a public street, refused a police officer's command to get on a sidewalk, confronted the officer, physically assaulted the police officer in the face, tried to get control of his weapon, and ended up dead. I do agree with you. He was stupid. But I disagree that it was Wilson who imposed his death penalty. I do believe he brought it upon himself.

JMO
 
  • #953
Here's the thing.... If law enforcement instructs people to leave an area for their own safety. They need to vacate. It does NOT matter that they may think they were doing nothing wrong. When the authorities, with guns, tear gas, rubber bullets tell people to move, they should move.
I have zero sympathy for those that refuse to follow directions. Zero.

All IMO


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I do get what you're saying, and I would never personally not follow a cop's instructions - but what would the civil rights movement have looked like if everyone dispersed when told to?

I do want to say, I think Michael Brown's shooting was completely justified as an act of self-defense by the cop. I'm just speaking in generalities.

I DON'T get looting and burning, but I do get standing there peacefully and saying I have a right to be here and to peacefully assemble, despite a soft curfew.
 
  • #954
The problem is that an unarmed teen is dead (another out of many). For a lot of us what he was doing 10 minutes before doesn't matter, he was unarmed, he was stupid, teens are, and he should never have been shot in the first place. He was fleeing.

He didn't deserve the death penalty and Wilson imposed it. That is what it boiled down to and many of the defenses I am hearing have to do with MB stealing..which isn't a death penalty crime.

IA that it is horrible he was killed.......but it really doesn't appear as if he was fleeing based on what his own family's, hired ME is reporting. We don't know what escalated their encounter that ended with MB dead, but he certainly wasn't shot in the back, nor was he executed at close range with a gun shot to the head.

The witness statements are severely discredited because of what we've just learned.
 
  • #955
It is a truly a shame a young man of 18 years behaved so foolishly he lost his life.
Perhaps he was a terrific kid his entire life up till the last 15 minutes of his life...but those last 15 minutes determined his fate.
I feel bad for all those that knew and cared about him.
There are lessons to be learned... Too bad the media and the agitators don't take the opportunity to effect real change.
It's time to stop blaming everyone else for criminal behavior and those trying to actually protect and serve.

All IMO


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  • #956
I must go to bed. I am all jittery and worried about this situation. But my son has his first day of fifth grade tomorrow.

Please peace. No more death. No more. This is horrible to witness. Like an avalanche rolling down a mountainside. Not caring who or what gets in its way.

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His arms may have been raised after the first shots; the head shots were the last ones.

Wasnt he shot in the hand and the arm first? Would he raise his arms if he was wounded in the arm and hand?
 
  • #959
I'm far behind in the thread but just have to wonder what CNN is trying to prove. The anchor, Poppy, not sure last name is awful and someone else needs to take her spot.

JMO

Mel~


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Funny how they gave the autopsy findings like 3 minutes of air time, after dismissing them with "this really doesn't tell us anything."
 
  • #960
The problem is that an unarmed teen is dead (another out of many). For a lot of us what he was doing 10 minutes before doesn't matter, he was unarmed, he was stupid, teens are, and he should never have been shot in the first place. He was fleeing.

He didn't deserve the death penalty and Wilson imposed it. That is what it boiled down to and many of the defenses I am hearing have to do with MB stealing..which isn't a death penalty crime.

How would the police officer know this person was unarmed? Guns, shivs, knives, hammers, screwdrivers, hands and feet...all can be deadly weapons in the hands of an angry person totally oblivious to reason (and nothing I've seen indicates Mr. Brown was acting reasonably).

As for the fleeing, the autopsy sure isn't supporting that.



(They're reporting a dead body on Tim's feed?)
 
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