MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

[Lovejac]

This irks me. Why is it relevant that he lives in a predominantly Caucasian neighborhood? So do I, but that's because the City of Chicago tends to be broken down into ethnic groups and areas. I live in the area that's populated by mainly the Irish...however, just a few blocks away is an almost entirely African American area.

I don't understand why it's brought up, that his area is mainly white. Why is the racial aspect brought up? What would have happened, if a black cop shot him? I don't understand the media focus on him having a pool, living in a white area, etc. It's simply to fan the flames imo

JMO

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Trying to shame him for working hard and having a nice house :facepalm:

 

[JLSChook]

[h=1]KSDK issues apology to officer, audience[/h]
Yesterday KSDK showed the video of the Ferguson Police Officer's home in our 5 p.m. news but did not mention the address of the home. KSDK immediately felt using that video was a mistake and pulled the video of the home from future newscasts and from our web site. We have not used the video since then and do not intend to do so. We apologize to our audience, to the surrounding neighborhoods, to the greater St.Louis community and to the officer for our mistake.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/16/ksdk-issues-apology-to-officer-audience/14162149/

A news station with actual class? Say it ain't so! Good for them.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

No,
I'm not a moderator. I apologize. I have no business requesting you to post a certain way.
I'm just confused by the inconsistency.


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There is no inconsistency. you asked those looting and destroying property should be held responsible. I answered that..yes and 7 were arrested. Where am I inconsistent?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Are there any live feeds today?
Is everything calm and peaceful?


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[Tricia]

Good Morning Everyone,

This is a story that can make emotions run high.

Please remember to keep on topic and do not discuss how people should or shouldn't post.

Thank you,

Tricia

 

[Lovejac]

Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 1m
"The officer kept shooting and he fell to his knees, begging for his life." What Michael Brown's neighbors say: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-michael-brown-20140817-story.html …

So now he was begging for his life? Why is this just coming out now I wonder?

 

[Sonya610]

Are there any live feeds today?
Is everything calm and peaceful?

<mod snip> don't like to get up early, they had a long night. The "protestors" will start appearing around 6 and get busy around midnight.

This is also the best/worst time of year for riots, August is the hottest month. If this incident happened in December things would be very different.

 

[popsicle]

Where's the outrage over the shooting last night????
Where's the chant for justice?
Where are all the witnesses to THAT shooting?

Claiming a desire for "justice" while being law breakers and criminals is just stupid and counter-productive!


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The chants only fit their immediate purpose....."No justice! No curfew!"
Also, don't forget..."They say move back! We say f@ck that!"

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Thugs don't like to get up early, they had a long night. The "protestors" will start appearing around 6 and get busy around midnight.

This is also the best/worst time of year for riots, August is the hottest month. If this incident happened in December things would be very different.

Yes, another long hot summer I'm afraid...

 

[Linda7NJ]

The chants only fit their immediate purpose....."No justice! No curfew!"
Also, don't forget..."They say move back! We say f@ck that!"

I'm still confused by the lack of concern over last nights shooting.
It's hardly been mentioned in the media.

I find it disturbing..


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[sorrell skye]

I recall when the WTO protests got hijacked by out of town "anarchists" and downtown businesses were vandalized, dumpsters were set on fire, police cars were damaged, and the SWAT teams used some of the same tactics (smoke and tear gas) to try to quell the violence, the MSM outlets practically cheered the SWAT teams, even though some of the police officers used much more brutal tactics against peaceful protesters than we've witnessed in this situation. In Seattle, some of the cops physically restrained the peaceful demonstrators, forcibly opened their eyes, and sprayed pepper spray directly into their eyes. It was brutal.

As far as I'm concerned, the SWAT teams in Ferguson have shown incredible restraint, yet the MSM outlets are collectively vilifying them, rather than trying to report an unbiased account of events.

This is why I appreciate the livestream coverage provided by the indy journalists on the ground that we've been watching the past couple of nights. Thanks to journalists like Tim Pool with Vice News, we've gotten to see for ourselves what's going on, rather than having to rely on the extremely filtered, agenda-driven pseudo-reporting of the MSM.

 

[Lovejac]

Matt Pearce &#8207;@mattdpearce 1m
"The officer kept shooting and he fell to his knees, begging for his life." What Michael Brown's neighbors say: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-michael-brown-20140817-story.html …

Two statements in here that make me SMH:

Police said that Brown then walked to a minimart and stole some cigarillos. Williams said he didn't know whether that was true, but he said in this neighborhood it wouldn't have marked Brown as much of a criminal. "When you're growing up in a rough situation, everybody makes mistakes," Williams said.

Making excuses for stealing? Because you grow up in a rough situation?

He stopped briefly to chat with two white landscapers who had been chopping down trees in the complex.

Why does it matter that the landscapers were white? Anyone? Please?

 

[K_Z]

If it turns out to be true that MB was charging the police, it seems like a very aggressive and taunting move from MB imo and makes me wonder if this is suicide by cop. Or if MB maybe was not in the right frame of mind (intoxicated). It will be interesting to see how facts play out and MB was charging police I wonder if they'll look into his mental history for depression etc. The autopsy reports will at least clear up some of the conflicting accounts. All imo and speculation.

Snipped my me and BBM for focus.

The spin sessions about what the autopsy findings "are" have been going on for days already. Attorney Crump said that himself, that they were discussing "what the results are, and how to release them" (my paraphrase).

It's my opinion that there will be extreme official resistance to releasing anything in the reports-- they may go so far as to not even confirm how many shots were fired. They know the results of the preliminary tox already. They know a lot about the autopsy results right now. If there was something there that could implicate the officer, you bet it would be released, loudly and persistently. IMO, the autopsy results, the TRUTH, is again a giant problem. IMO, the officials are already behaving as if the TRUTH in the autopsy report is a giant problem that has to be suppressed at all costs. We've already seen what the TRUTH of the well-documented videotapes of the robbery and assault has produced.

 

[popsicle]

I recall when the WTO protests got hijacked by out of town "anarchists" and downtown businesses were vandalized, dumpsters were set on fire, police cars were damaged, and the SWAT teams used some of the same tactics (smoke and tear gas) to try to quell the violence, the MSM outlets practically cheered the SWAT teams, even though some of the police officers used much more brutal tactics against peaceful protesters than we've witnessed in this situation. In Seattle, some of the cops physically restrained the peaceful demonstrators, forcibly opened their eyes, and sprayed pepper spray directly into their eyes. It was brutal.

As far as I'm concerned, the SWAT teams in Ferguson have shown incredible restraint, yet the MSM outlets are collectively vilifying them, rather than trying to report an unbiased account of events.

This is why I appreciate the livestream coverage provided by the indy journalists on the ground that we've been watching the past couple of nights. Thanks to journalists like Tim Pool with Vice News, we've gotten to see for ourselves what's going on, rather than having to rely on the extremely filtered, agenda-driven pseudo-reporting of the MSM.

I don't agree. There are a couple journalist there that are being extremely balanced in their twitter reporting imo.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Snipped my me and BBM for focus.

The spin sessions about what the autopsy findings "are" have been going on for days already. Attorney Crump said that himself, that they were discussing "what the results are, and how to release them" (my paraphrase).

It's my opinion that there will be extreme official resistance to releasing anything in the reports-- they may go so far as to not even confirm how many shots were fired. They know the results of the preliminary tox already. They know a lot about the autopsy results right now. If there was something there that could implicate the officer, you bet it would be released, loudly and persistently. IMO, the autopsy results, the TRUTH, is again a giant problem. IMO, the officials are already behaving as if the TRUTH in the autopsy report is a giant problem that has to be suppressed at all costs. We've already seen what the TRUTH of the well-documented videotapes of the robbery and assault has produced.

Bingo.

I suggest calling up the National Guard before releasing it.




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[mdana]

I hear you, although most of my ancestors came to the US in the 1870s, I have one Revolutionary War vet and one Civil war vet (northern side) in my family tree, and my grandfather was a WWII vet. I feel bad that we're throwing away everything they fought for on my watch, but I don't know what I can do about it. I did work on my garden some to make my little part of the world look better. I do believe an environment of physical ugliness does breed mental illness in people. Awhile back I wrote some theories about how we got to this point in society, I thought later I should have mentioned living in ugly surroundings. I have a book that shows how gardening reduced crime in parts of New York City. I don't know how you come out of an environment of dilapidated buildings and strip malls with a healthy state of mind, frankly. And even if you can afford good food and have a grocery store to go to, I've heard it's as little as 10% as nutritious as food was 100 years ago because the soil it's grown in is depleted. IQ points are down in the US by 10 points in the last 100 years, I have heard. Many old homes have lead in them and that's been cited as a factor that causes crime. Here is a link to my previous attempt to answer this question - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...of-teen-Michael-Brown&p=10852947#post10852947

BBM

I know of no research to substantiate your allegation.

"The nation's IQ scores have kept climbing over the past 100 years."

...

"According to his extensive research, IQ test scores in the U.S. increased by an average of three points per decade during the 20th century."


http://theweek.com/article/index/219002/are-americans-smarter-than-ever

In regards to your lead theory, almost all homes at the turn of the century had hazardous lead levels, many if not most of those homes have been destroyed, and the remaining ones should have had the lead levels removed to conform to modern housing codes. Kevin Drum at Mother Jones has done some interesting work on the various research on the effects of lead exposure on crime due to the lowering of impulse control.

 

[Lovejac]

I have just one question: if he was bettering his life why the hell was he stealing cigars the day of his unfortunate death?

I wished he had stayed and talked to the white landscapers about a job opportunity on their crew. Instead, he left and walked the the store he stole from.

 

[K_Z]

I'm still confused by the lack of concern over last nights shooting.
It's hardly been mentioned in the media.

I find it disturbing..


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If it had been a police officer who shot the protestor, it would be "news", as well as "justifiable" cause for more riots and looting and violence. Civilian on civilian violence, not worthy of coverage.

 

[Lovejac]

Thugs don't like to get up early, they had a long night. The "protestors" will start appearing around 6 and get busy around midnight.

This is also the best/worst time of year for riots, August is the hottest month. If this incident happened in December things would be very different.

Any more rain in the forecast for tonight?

 

[Foxfire]

I recall when the WTO protests got hijacked by out of town "anarchists" and downtown businesses were vandalized, dumpsters were set on fire, police cars were damaged, and the SWAT teams used some of the same tactics (smoke and tear gas) to try to quell the violence, the MSM outlets practically cheered the SWAT teams, even though some of the police officers used much more brutal tactics against peaceful protesters than we've witnessed in this situation. In Seattle, some of the cops physically restrained the peaceful demonstrators, forcibly opened their eyes, and sprayed pepper spray directly into their eyes. It was brutal.

As far as I'm concerned, the SWAT teams in Ferguson have shown incredible restraint, yet the MSM outlets are collectively vilifying them, rather than trying to report an unbiased account of events.

This is why I appreciate the livestream coverage provided by the indy journalists on the ground that we've been watching the past couple of nights. Thanks to journalists like Tim Pool with Vice News, we've gotten to see for ourselves what's going on, rather than having to rely on the extremely filtered, agenda-driven pseudo-reporting of the MSM.

A thanx just wasn't good enough, sorrell skye. "Excellent post"! Thank heavens for the internet.. Times they are a changin... :cheers: