MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

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  • #421
The officer's medical report will tell us a lot. Did MB break his jaw? His eye socket? Was there a struggle in the car over the gun resulting in a shot being fired? Those are all verifiable things that don't depend on witness accounts.

Thank God for that :facepalm:
 
  • #422
Because the agenda is to appease not truth, not justice.

I fear for that officer, I think there are quite a few in power that would simply love to hand him over to the angry mob. It makes their job easier than finding the truth and dealing with the fallout.

How will the community react if the shooting is deemed justifiable ????


All IMO


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Thank Goodness the DOJ and the FBI are in charge of the investigation. I think with these two independent agencies in charge, we're more likely to get to the facts of the matter, or as close to the facts as possible, given the circumstances.

I hope that peace prevails if the investigation determines the shooting was justified or if the findings are inconclusive. But with the unrest and the violence on the part of some that we've seen this past week, I fear there may be even more unrest and violence unless Wilson is indicted.

One of the things that stands out to me regarding Wilson is that he has a 6 year exemplary record serving as a police officer in both Jennings and in Ferguson. Six months ago, he earned a commendation for his “extraordinary effort in the line of duty.”

http://news.yahoo.com/photos-fergus...police-award-earlier-this-year-021255893.html

It seems to me that if he had a history of problematic behavior in the line of duty, he wouldn't have been awarded the commendation. Plus, with the FOIA, it seems to me that the press would have discovered any disciplinary actions against him if they existed.

I understand that folks are outraged that an unarmed 18 year old was shot and killed. I fully support the family and the community in their quest for answers. If it was my loved one, I'd want answers, as well. If it was my loved one, I'd be angry and hurting, too. If it was my loved one, I, too, would probably be blaming LE and demanding justice.

Since it's thankfully not my loved one, I can look at the situation less emotionally and wait for the facts to come out before pointing fingers.

As someone on the outside looking in, I must say that I'm opposed to vilifying an officer who, to date, seems to have exercised his sworn duty to protect and serve without violating departmental procedure or the law, as far as the public is aware. Until and unless it's proven that he was anything but the exemplary officer he's reputed to be, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in this tragic situation.
 
  • #423
FOX2now ‏@FOX2now 6m
Watch Capt. Ron Johnson’s amazing Michael Brown speech http://ift.tt/1oHrNns


Retweeted by Matt Pearce
Jon Swaine ‏@jonswaine 2m
T-shirts on sale with police-style badge saying "Officer Darren Wilson - I stand by you". $7, just sold out



Retweeted by Matt Pearce
Jon Swaine ‏@jonswaine 16m
A silent protest in support of Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, who shot Mike Brown, starting in St. Louis
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvRbG6UCUAANv-M.jpg

 
  • #424
A victim of theft and intimidation, of course. But the clerk didn't call 911. What does the clerk being a victim have to do with anything?

A customer in the store called 911. So the clerk did not have to call.

What does the clerk being a victim have to do with anything? I think it is extremely important. This happened 10 minutes prior to his death. It shows him grabbing someone by the throat, shoving them against the wall, then doubling back for no reason and getting in the guys face until he backed down. then walking away with stolen merchandise.

This ^^^^ shows us that big Mike was being aggressive and physical with those in his way. The next person in his way was the officer he grappled with.
 
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I'm also very very concerned at the lack of apparent concern for the shooting of of their own by members if their own communities.
No one gives a darn about the shooting last night!!!!!!

The senseless violence, looting, shooting, arson, flagrantly violating the state mandated curfew... It all needs to stop!

People want peace and justice? How about simply doing their part????
I commend the community members out last night BEgGING others to do the right thing.



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He was a suspect in a strong-arm robbery. His body was his weapon, hence the term "strong-arm." He used force, intimidation to steal something. Not typical teen behavior, imo. He assaulted a store clerk and a witness phoned 911. He assaulted a police officer in the face and struggled for his weapon. He resisted arrest. So, yes, that makes him a threat to the public.

JMO

Again we don't know if he assaulted the police officer, to what degree, what prompted the assault or shooting, or if he struggled for his weapon. I don't think it's fair for you to be able to say something like it's a fact, but then attack my opinion that he wasn't a public threat.
 
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Yes he did, and I heard him (or a different atty there in Ferguson- not sure) say the same thing yesterday too. Made me stop and take notice when I heard it, but I heard Crump say that today too. There must be something either in his past they know is coming out or something in toxicology or autopsy like you said, imo. They are gearing up for something seems like. But really, the only thing that matters is what happened during the shooting imo. That info isn't out yet but already many have tried and convicted Wilson of murder. To many, there's no need for all the details, that's sad.

I just heard Mr Crump say something VERY interesting to the crowd, while standing with MB's parents at the rally.

I'd like to see it gain, but he said, almost in a warning tone, to the crowd:

" Now YOU all are going to hear some talk about young Michael Brown in the next few days...and do not let it distract us from the truth/...."

I am paraphrasing, but that is the essence. It sounded to me like he was warning folks about another shoe about to be dropped. Maybe the tox results or the autopsy?
 
  • #431
Just a thought: could it be that Officer Wilson was not able to see properly because he had been struck in the face by MB? I believe one of the witnesses said that MB struck him or punched him. Maybe he had blood dripping into his eyes obscuring his vision, and this is what led to the number of shots and the misses. jmo
 
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Yeah, and just days ago he was a quiet, gentle giant on a lovely little stroll to grandmas house....when he was gunned down for no reason

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I don't know what your post has to do with anything I said, but okay.
 
  • #435
I do not understand where the notion comes from that an officer defending himself should shoot someone in the leg. Movies???

They're not ever going to aim for a leg.

IMO

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My partner made the same mistake of saying this same thing to me the other night - "why didn't he just shoot him in the leg?"

To which I replied "LE are trained that if there is justification to draw upon and shoot a suspect, they're trained to shoot to kill."

We had a big ol' debate about it and I think my dear partner regretted ever bringing it up in the first place. He hates it when he's wrong, lol.
 
  • #436
I wonder if there will be looting again tonight like last night despite the curfew.
 
  • #437
Ridiculous.

IMO


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It could be the offers of scholarships and the class action lawsuit are in consolation because Rev. Al knows the autopsy report supports the officer's statement. If the autopsy reports supports the officer's statement, the case won't be taken to a Grand Jury.



JMO
 
  • #438
FOX2now ‏@FOX2now 6m
Watch Capt. Ron Johnson’s amazing Michael Brown speech http://ift.tt/1oHrNns


Retweeted by Matt Pearce
Jon Swaine ‏@jonswaine 2m
T-shirts on sale with police-style badge saying "Officer Darren Wilson - I stand by you". $7, just sold out



Retweeted by Matt Pearce
Jon Swaine ‏@jonswaine 16m
A silent protest in support of Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson, who shot Mike Brown, starting in St. Louis
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvRbG6UCUAANv-M.jpg


This will get interesting real quick. Msm will make sure of it. Whipping each side up. Jmo

ciao
 
  • #439
Again we don't know if he assaulted the police officer, to what degree, what prompted the assault or shooting, or if he struggled for his weapon. I don't think it's fair for you to be able to say something like it's a fact, but then attack my opinion that he wasn't a public threat.

You're thinking the officer hit himself in the face? The officer's weapon discharged in the cruiser by itself?
 
  • #440
Again we don't know if he assaulted the police officer, to what degree, what prompted the assault or shooting, or if he struggled for his weapon. I don't think it's fair for you to be able to say something like it's a fact, but then attack my opinion that he wasn't a public threat.

Especially when Wilson didn't know that at that time..

This is why the release of that store video should have been held until the investigations were done. Then, if they find that Wilson was justified in his actions, you pull out the video and other evidence that corroborates that. Then go on to say, there will be no charges filed.
 
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