MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

[popsicle]

I agree about Trayvon, but this case isn't about him. Two TOTALLY different cases completely.

As far as the BBM: What suspicions would those be? :nono:

I agree it is. It is unfortunate that Crump felt the need to mention it several times while speaking today at the rally about MB. jmo

 

[Linda7NJ]

Things aren't always how they appear.... Watch this...it's incredibly educational...


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10203515410119123&id=1630231424




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[gramcracker]

The way Al exploits situations makes me ill

he never met a situation (and a camera) he didn't like, IMO

 

[JLSChook]

I sense your frustration. These facts have been repeatedly backed with links. The video could NOT be withheld. Not sure why some don't want to believe it or try to twist it into some sort of conspiracy.

JMO

I think Amber agrees with you, MyBelle.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20140815/WIRE/140819658/0/ENT

Did I lie?

 

[Muffet]

Especially when Wilson didn't know that at that time..

This is why the release of that store video should have been held until the investigations were done. Then, if they find that Wilson was justified in his actions, you pull out the video and other evidence that corroborates that. Then go on to say, there will be no charges filed.

Why keep posting something that is false? You ask where it says otherwise and it has been posted several times in response to that request.

it's not false, the Chief said it, then miraculously a BOLO came a minute later and Wilson then backed up due to seeing the description and approached DJ and MB..

I don't post false information, I just might not be on the side of the fence you or anyone else sits..

Even if one thinks the BOLO wasn't posted until after the initial stop and was "miraculously" posted just before he turned around, how does one believe Wilson's knowledge of it isn't relevant to his actions after he backed up?

Those are his only actions causing controversy, aren't they? And they were done with the knowledge of the BOLO.

That's what matters, and I think people/reporters focusing only on what he knew when he told them to get on the sidewalk are dragging red herrings to distract readers/viewers to convict the officer.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

No concern from me. The PO did not shoot MB in the back. MOO From information I have gathered over the past week, this is my timeline of the events that led to the death of Michael Brown.


1. Officer Wilson is on patrol when he sees the two men walking in the middle of the road. He pulled alongside them. He rolled down his window. He asked them to get on the sidewalk and out of the street. They refused. They mocked and cursed the officer. "We're almost where we were going."

2. His police car kept rolling forward. Officer Wilson pulled his car over and to a stop. He kept watching them.

3. While Officer Wilson's vehicle is pulled over, and while he is watching them, a call from dispatch announces a strong arm robbery.

4. Officer Wilson hears the description of the suspects and concludes that the description matches the two individuals he has encountered. He notices something in MBs hands.

5. Officer Wilson reverses his patrol vehicle to go back to where they are still walking in the center of the street.

6. Officer Wilson opens the driver's side door. However, MB slams the driver's door violently before the officer could exit.

7. Officer Wilson opens his door again and exits the vehicle but before he could close his door, he is rushed by MB and forcefully shoved back into his patrol car.

8. MB punches Officer Wilson in the face. The officer is going for his gun. MB also went for control of the gun.

9. MB has the gun pointed against the officer's hip. Officer Wilson shoves it away. One shot goes off.

10. MB takes off with his friend and accomplice.

11. Police are trained in the pursuit of a suspect. Officer Wilson stables himself. The suspects are about 35 yards away when Officer Wilson yells: Freeze!

12. MB turns around to face the officer whose gun is aimed at the suspect.

13. While continuing to walk toward the officer, MB taunts the officer "Whatcha gonna do bout it?"

14. Suddenly, Michael Brown bomb rushes Officer Wilson at full speed.

15. Officer Wilson began shooting and MB kept coming at him.

16. The final shot was to the forehead. MB collapsed a few feet from Officer Wilson after the fatal head wound.


If this timeline is accurate, IMHO, either MB had a death wish or surely the AR [autopsy report], including toxicology, will indeed indicate that, MB was using some type of hard illegal drug(s) that made him feel invincible enough to assault a police officer.

I can only imagine the fear held by this officer while being attacked in his patrol car. His ability to recover enough to confront his assaulter, and not run for the hills, makes him a Hero.

moo mhoo and all that jazz

BBM

Is there a link to that fact you are stating?

No one can confirm or deny this happened..TIA

 

[JLSChook]

Things aren't always how they appear.... Watch this...it's incredibly educational...


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10203515410119123&id=1630231424





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It won't let me view it. :gaah:

It says,
The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily unavailable, the link you clicked on may be broken or expired, or you may not have permission to view this page

 

[Lovejac]

Hi sleuthers,
I believe the tape showed Dorian J returning the cigarettes to the counter and police said he would not be charged. That what I heard on news. Which of course, I went back and watched again- it shows Dorian doing just that. Also, Police chief said the cigars were found on the body during a press conference.
JMO, but what chief said

I hope Dorian takes something away from this horrible situation and makes some positive changes, starting with who he associates with.

Maybe he'll get a paid college education out of this, too.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I dont' know, I'm not privy to the PD...

It's the timing. It's the feeling of cover the cops mode. Some police are rogue, have an agenda. Police have falsified info too (not saying that the case here). Many NYPD have been charged an convicted of crimes lately. Not all are trusted and you are usually able to tell what cops are corrupt..attitude matters..

Why does Browns attitude not matter to you?

When compared to a cop with a stellar record and even an accommodation mean nothing ???


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[Lovejac]

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Zeynep Tufekci ‏@zeynep Aug 15
Wow. Turkish pro-gov newspaper claims US media totally ignored #Ferguson, news blackout etc.. http://www.turkafile.com/international/2014/08/15/takvim-front-page-has-gezi-inspired-poke-at-u-s-over-ferguson-protests/ …
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Bummer! Can't read the article. Says they're down for site maintenance

 

[JLSChook]

http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20140815/WIRE/140819658/0/ENT

Did I lie?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...souri-police-michael-brown-shooting/14098369/

Chief: Officer noticed Brown carrying suspected stolen cigars

FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown was identified as a suspect in a strong-arm robbery of a box of cigars moments before he was shot to death by Officer Darren Wilson, police said Friday.

In an afternoon press conference, Ferguson, Mo. Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Wilson did not initially make a connection between the robbery and Brown,whose death spurred violent protests and unrest in the St. Louis suburb over the past week.

Wilson stopped Brown and a friend because "they were in the middle of the street, blocking traffic," Jackson said.

Hours later, however, Jackson told a slightly different story to CNN and NBC, saying that Wilson noticed Brown was carrying a box of cigars that had been reported stolen. Wilson, he said, initially stopped Brown for blocking traffic, but as he began driving past Brown, he noticed Brown was holding cigars.

At that point, Wilson "made the connection" that Brown might have been involved in a theft that had just been broadcast on police radio, Jackson said.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Even if one thinks the BOLO wasn't posted until after the initial stop and was "miraculously" posted just before he turned around, how does one believe Wilson's knowledge of it isn't relevant to his actions after he backed up?

Those are his only actions causing controversy, aren't they? And they were done with the knowledge of the BOLO.

That's what matters, and I think people/reporters focusing only on what he knew when he told them to get on the sidewalk are dragging red herrings to distract readers/viewers to convict the officer.

The talk was about the initial stop, not after Wilson heard the BOLO..

 

[al66pine]

From popsicle's post 336:
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Antonio French ‏@AntonioFrench 2m
They came all the way from India to #Ferguson.
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LOL, there are Buddhist temples in North County! Although if they really did come all the way over from India I'll take back the LOL!

Red-ed by me.

Antonio French. Is it time for a lesson in geography or religions of the world?
(if your comment was posted in jest, sorry to have been too literal-minded)

1. Not everyone in the MidWest is Baptist. See vulture's post #343, re Buddist Temples in north part of St. Louis County.
2. If they came across Asia, not likely to have come from India.
"Buddhism
Between 400 CE and 1000 CE Hinduism expanded as the decline of Buddhism in India continued.[SUP][105][/SUP] Buddhism subsequently became effectively extinct in India but survived in Nepal and Sri Lanka."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_religions

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[Lovejac]

BBM
I have a very good suspicion/idea how the community will respond, given their behavior during the *ahem* "protesting".

Yeah, me too.

:woohoo: More free stuff in the name of justice :thinking:

 

[Leilei]

Things aren't always how they appear.... Watch this...it's incredibly educational...


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10203515410119123&id=1630231424


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'm getting a "content not found"? Maybe it was taken down.

 

[MyBelle]

Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown are two different people. I don't care if either of them did drugs or stole. It doesn't make them any less of a person. Thousands of people do the same thing they did, but that wouldn't justify them being killed either. Btw, both were teens. I don't know how old you are, but I know kids did drugs all the time when I was growing up. They drank. They stole. They made mistakes. I'm not saying the cop shouldn't have done what he did because I don't know what happened. I'm just saying neither death is justifiable by their past mistakes prior to the altercations.



I don't know the extent of the officers injuries. Do you have any documents about it or how they occurred other than witness statement? I don't know if the officer's weapon was discharged. Do you have any proof other than witness statements? If you do, I'd like to see it. That would really change my POV on the case at hand.

The Chief of Police confirmed the officer went to the hospital and the gun discharged in the cruiser. If he lied, I think we'd know it by now. Either there was a shell-casing in the cruiser or not. Kinda hard to lie about it. Michael Brown was an adult and strong-arm robbery is a violent crime, not some petty theft that is casually disregarded as a "mistake."

JMO

 

[Amber29]

I dont' know, I'm not privy to the PD...

It's the timing. It's the feeling of cover the cops mode. Some police are rogue, have an agenda. Police have falsified info too (not saying that the case here). Many NYPD have been charged an convicted of crimes lately. Not all are trusted and you are usually able to tell what cops are corrupt..attitude matters..

It's the timing? This all happened in a 10-15min window. There's nothing suspect IMO about the timing of the BOLO. Had the dispatch been after the shooting is what would be suspect. All this timing can be proven with time stamps.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...souri-police-michael-brown-shooting/14098369/

Thank you for that article but that was after his statement of MB was not being stopped for criminality, he was stopped for walking in the street.

Then what you post occurred..

 

[Linda7NJ]

BBM

Is there a link to that fact you are stating?

No one can confirm or deny this happened..TIA

It's stated as opinion, no link required.


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