MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

[SStarr33]

http://youtu.be/rM4kyiHSY2w

Watch the video. Watch it a few times



It appears this man was shot after laying down his weapon....look
Closely.
As the criminal lays down his weapon with his left hand, his right hand is removing a handgun from the back of his waistband... The cop behind him sees it and yells gun. It's still in his right hand after he's shot.


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Damn. I totally missed that until you pointed it out.

 

[gramcracker]

David Carson ‏@PDPJ 38s
#Ferguson Curious kids on sleepy side streets near protest, we had a little chat photography and my job pic.twitter.com/8uIq3lIvVx

very cool!

 

[William N]

I was just watching CNN and they were interviewing a young girl - Maya Aaten-White who was shot in the head four days ago during the protest. This is first that I have heard about this! It seems this shooting was completely ignored by the msm up till now. CNN tried to downplay the incident saying she "was injured'. So there have been two shootings committed by protesters and the media and the black community don't give a damn?

Of course not. IMO

 

[SStarr33]

I have no evidence, just he say, she say...

Here's the thing. You can't let yourself have a bad taste due to one bad egg. I call 'em like I 'em. If something comes out to show the PO was in the wrong, I will immediately flip to the other side.

 

[Wysteria]

Thank Goodness the DOJ and the FBI are in charge of the investigation. I think with these two independent agencies in charge, we're more likely to get to the facts of the matter, or as close to the facts as possible, given the circumstances.

I hope that peace prevails if the investigation determines the shooting was justified or if the findings are inconclusive. But with the unrest and the violence on the part of some that we've seen this past week, I fear there may be even more unrest and violence unless Wilson is indicted.

One of the things that stands out to me regarding Wilson is that he has a 6 year exemplary record serving as a police officer in both Jennings and in Ferguson. Six months ago, he earned a commendation for his “extraordinary effort in the line of duty.”

http://news.yahoo.com/photos-fergus...police-award-earlier-this-year-021255893.html

It seems to me that if he had a history of problematic behavior in the line of duty, he wouldn't have been awarded the commendation. Plus, with the FOIA, it seems to me that the press would have discovered any disciplinary actions against him if they existed.

I understand that folks are outraged that an unarmed 18 year old was shot and killed. I fully support the family and the community in their quest for answers. If it was my loved one, I'd want answers, as well. If it was my loved one, I'd be angry and hurting, too. If it was my loved one, I, too, would probably be blaming LE and demanding justice.

Since it's thankfully not my loved one, I can look at the situation less emotionally and wait for the facts to come out before pointing fingers.

As someone on the outside looking in, I must say that I'm opposed to vilifying an officer who, to date, seems to have exercised his sworn duty to protect and serve without violating departmental procedure or the law, as far as the public is aware. Until and unless it's proven that he was anything but the exemplary officer he's reputed to be, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in this tragic situation.

BBM.

I've already decided that the LEO is a victim. I've already decided that the LEO's family are victims.

I cannot understand why there is not more discussion regarding the impact of the life of this LEO will have on his and his families lives in the future, due to this incident. I feel so very sorry for the LEO's Dad, it breaks my heart.

I pray for this LEO and his family every day.

Thank you for your post, I really appreciate your feelings and opinions and again wish that I could read/watch more types of post like yours.

Are the LEO's future children going to be able to get free college tuition? Are there going to be peaceful marches for the LEO, if/when it's determined the shooting was justified?

I've already stated my opinion regarding what will happen in the community if indeed the shooting was justified.

Why is it that people will not be permitted to peacefully protest regarding what was done to him?(LEO).

Something has got to change so that in these incidents (if the shooting was justified), people can march, protest etc...for the true victim the LEO. As I see it, his life is ruined. All because a ....never mind I follow the TOS to the best of my ability and don't want to ruin the privilege I have here as a member.

I will also add that yes, I am fully aware that LE are doing their jobs and they are aware of the situations that can arise in choosing this profession. I am also aware that this LEO is indeed still alive. However, being alive is not the point. Being alive while your hopes and dreams and career and family have been changed in a horrid manner is not living the life that I think this LEO and his family deserve. I don't have a link to support my next opinion, but I have read suicide statistics show that police suicides are far higher. What an absolute shame.

*please excuse spelling and grammar errors, hubby is shouting something interesting in going on in our backyard wildlife bonanza/homemade sanctuary*

 

[popsicle]

:thumbup:

Here are relevant quotes and citations for easy reference on this thread:


1. " Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer who fired the fatal shots, Darren Wilson, did not know Michael Brown was a robbery suspect when he initially stopped the teen and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Jackson told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that Wilson knew there had been a robbery in the area but did not know that Brown was a suspect."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/darren-...er-who-fatally-shot-michael-brown-identified/

2. "The officer drove away but stopped and backed up, almost hitting the pair, Johnson said. He said he wasn't sure what prompted the officer to return.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-5-things/index.html.

3. Ferguson officer realized during encounter that Michael Brown might be suspect in robbery, chief says.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_52c40b84-ad90-5f9a-973c-70d628d0be04.html

:loveyou:

 

[gramcracker]

This will get interesting real quick. Msm will make sure of it. Whipping each side up. Jmo

ciao

like, late last night/early this morning when Christi Paul on CNN asked one of her THs if the owners of looted businesses could sue FPD for standing down and allowing looting to occur

(no)

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Here's the thing. You can't let yourself have a bad taste due to one bad egg. I call 'em like I 'em. If something comes out to show the PO was in the wrong, I will immediately flip to the other side.

I thank you for that advice..

Is that same advice not deserving of Mike Brown?

Could that act have been out of character?

Most say he was a good kid.

Of course mom and grandma think that..

He was never arrested before..why did he do what he did?

I wish DJ could answer that one..

 

[MyBelle]

As you can see, I do have a bad taste in my mouth for police officers. I have a family member who is a disgrace. They happily bragged about setting up someone, backing his partner as not to face the IAD or possibly charges. We don't speak. I find that disgraceful to not be honest about things. So my skepticism comes from my own experience.

And no, people can hide their bad side..sociopaths do it all the time..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU61AUecB4E

If you have personal knowledge of police misconduct, not reporting it makes you at a minimum, just as morally complicit as the family member you find to be dishonest.

JMO

 

[cady]

:thumbup:

Here are relevant quotes and citations for easy reference on this thread:


1. " Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer who fired the fatal shots, Darren Wilson, did not know Michael Brown was a robbery suspect when he initially stopped the teen and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Jackson told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that Wilson knew there had been a robbery in the area but did not know that Brown was a suspect."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/darren-...er-who-fatally-shot-michael-brown-identified/

2. "The officer drove away but stopped and backed up, almost hitting the pair, Johnson said. He said he wasn't sure what prompted the officer to return.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/14/us/ferguson-michael-brown-shooting-5-things/index.html.

3. Ferguson officer realized during encounter that Michael Brown might be suspect in robbery, chief says.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_52c40b84-ad90-5f9a-973c-70d628d0be04.html

Thanks. OK,I'll let it be for now, but I must say, If I were Wilson I would be VERY POed at the Chief. Pretty wishy washy as a PD spokesperson. JMO

 

[popsicle]

I was just watching CNN and they were interviewing a young girl - Maya Aaten-White who was shot in the head four days ago during the protest. This is first that I have heard about this! It seems this shooting was completely ignored by the msm up till now. CNN tried to downplay the incident saying she "was injured'. So there have been two shootings committed by protesters and the media and the black community don't give a damn?

One of the reporters I follow did tweet about it and I posted it here..otherwise, I don't think anyone else covered it. She was just noted as "someone was shot in the head". smh

 

[SilkySifaka]

He was a suspect in a strong-arm robbery. His body was his weapon, hence the term "strong-arm." He used force, intimidation to steal something. Not typical teen behavior, imo. He assaulted a store clerk and a witness phoned 911. He assaulted a police officer in the face and struggled for his weapon. He resisted arrest. So, yes, that makes him a threat to the public.

JMO

You are posting things as fact which have not been verified. So far as far as I know his body has not been ordered a lethal weapon. We don't know he assaulted the LEO in the face and struggled for a weapon, i in fact don't believe he did

 

[i.b.nora]

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It is not about 'trashing' the victim. It's about telling the TRUE story of what happened. You have a situation where you have to weigh one persons word against the others. On one hand, you have a 28 yr old officer, with no prior malicious incidents, recently decorated with a medal for valor, pulling over to tell two teens to get out of the middle of the street.

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To be factual, it wasn't a 'medal of valor', it was a 'commendation for extraordinary effort in the line of duty' and the same commendation was presented, on the same night, to a total of 26 people which was almost half of the entire Ferguson Police Department. I cannot find specifically what the details of the extraordinary effort were.

http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/236968228

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

If you have personal knowledge of police misconduct, not reporting it makes you at a minimum, just as morally complicit as the family member you find to be dishonest.
JMO

BBM

No it doesn't,

I have no names, no dates, nothing but a bragging idiot. How am I morally complicit...please...I know nothing but what a bragging fool said.

 

[SStarr33]

Are there any livestreams going on right now?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Damn. I totally missed that until you pointed it out.

I have nothing but the upmost respect for law enforcement, it's a thankless & dangerous job.
Until such time there is actual evidence against the officer in this case....I'll continue to staunchly support & defend him.
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IMO


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[JLSChook]

Great post, Wysteria! :clap:

If I may add, there is a big possibility that the only reason Wilson is still alive is because he was doing his JOB and had no choice but to shoot the person assaulting him and trying to steal his weapon.

IMO, Wilson would be dead if he didn't take the brave action he did that day.

I pray for him and his family too.

 

[Kimster]

If you guys want to continue to discuss your personal experiences with law enforcement, please move to the Jury Room. This thread is about the encounter that LE had with Michael Brown.

Thanks!

 

[Muffet]

Especially when Wilson didn't know that at that time..

This is why the release of that store video should have been held until the investigations were done. Then, if they find that Wilson was justified in his actions, you pull out the video and other evidence that corroborates that. Then go on to say, there will be no charges filed.

" Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

http://www.news-journalonline.com/article/20140815/WIRE/140819658/0/ENT

Did I lie?

No, hon. It's just a matter of half-truths that propagate false perceptions and misplaced suspicions about the police officer's and the department's state of mind and motives.