MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #3

[JRulfo]

My question is, are you implying there were no cigars? Or that there was no robbery?

Thanks!

I'm saying Dorian was already talking about the cigars long before the police did. I am questioning the veracity of what the police chief said after three tries on Friday: that Wilson suspected that MB and DJ might be the cigar thieves. I mean, the cigar robbery news shocked everyone on Friday--no one seemed to have known of such a robbery. And that is a reason why reporters doubted that the Ferguson PD was forced to release the robbery report because reporters were asking for that report via FOI requests. How could they request documents of things they didn't know about?

 

[Wysteria]

I've just now turned out porch lights on. Upstate NY here.

eta: in cooperation with Moderator request. My post was in regard to the support of the LEO. Please refer to links up thread.

 

[jamiect]

St. Louis County PD ‏@stlcountypd 50s
Reports that there is one shooting victim near the Quick Trip. We are told the victims injuries are minor. PD & EMS on way.

 

[DeDee]

WS is not allowing me to quote posts at the moment. However, this is in reply to popsicle's post #568 that included one of the sources used for developing my timeline:

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My timeline:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-teen-Michael-Brown-3&p=10868616#post10868616

MB assaulted the officer with malicious intent as will be proven by his attempts to bomb rush and punch Officer Wilson and the subsequent actions to gain control over the officer's gun. Then, he attempted to assault Officer Wilson a third time by bomb rushing the officer in the street after he was ordered to FREEZE! JMO

Officer Darren Wilson should be hailed as a Hero.

Is it all quiet in Ferguson tonight? May the area be blessed with peace and quiet. ETA ~ I'll answer my own question since I went to live stream. Pure chaos.

moo mhoo and all that jazz

 

[Lovejac]

Not to single you or this post out, GardenLady, as it's only a small hint of a line of thought I've been noticing...

The line of thought I'm inferring from some is that painting with a broad brush, generalizing, judging one by many who wear the same colors is OK for some, but not others.

I don't want to take this too deep, but it's hard not to notice and I think this officer is suffering from prejudice too.

Isn't it wrong to assume the worst about a cop's guilt based on other cops' offenses?

You mean because his 'color' is blue?

That totally seems like a prejudice to me

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

stream go down for anyone else?

 

[popsicle]

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Joe Holleman &#8207;@STLsherpa 4m
Popping sounds by Red's was gunshots two officers confirm. And we have young woman taken away in ambo. No other detail. Police not shooters.



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St. Louis County PD &#8207;@stlcountypd 2m
Reports that there is one shooting victim near the Quick Trip. We are told the victims injuries are minor. PD & EMS on way.



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Antonio French &#8207;@AntonioFrench 8m
Not enough adults out here tonight. Too dark around QT and Red's BBQ. Gun shots already heard down Canfield. Fight at QT. #Ferguson
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[Blue_Dolphin308]

Stream is back up!

 

[Lovejac]

stream go down for anyone else?

down for me too. Buffering

 

[Isabelle]

So, when did the police first mention the cigars?

Because from what I had been hearing from the police--and I just went back and watched a few videos of police press conferences and interviews from last week--Wilson stopped them because of jaywalking. Not because he soon realized they might be the cigar suspects. The cigars were first mentioned by the police in connection with Wilson stopping the men almost a week after the shooting: late on Friday, after two confusing police press conferences had already taken place.

So, if this is now suddenly so obvious and if those are supposedly the facts, why did it take so long for the police to put out that narrative? Why wait until late Friday afternoon? And why didn't they arrest Dorian Johnson on Saturday if Wilson knew he was a suspect. After all, Dorian is on the robbery report as an accomplice. And, furthermore, why is there an item on a police event report from that day over 6 hours after Wilson stopped the men that says: "Still see no one matching that description."

Which is all very odd, since someone had already mentioned the cigars last Tuesday, not Friday. The first person to mention the cigars, as far as I know, was Dorian Johnson himself, in his interview on Tuesday with Al Sharpton. He may have even mentioned it earlier, for all I know. So if Dorian was talking about the cigars then, why did the police wait until Friday, when they needed three tries to finally get their account of this straight?

I see it as their loophole. IMO

 

[popsicle]

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Alex Altman &#8207;@aaltman82 1m
Bunch of gangs fighting tonight, locals say. Woman taken away with gunshot wound, per policeman. #Ferguson
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[Wysteria]

I would live to see a mass sit-in at curfew time!


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Why? Please explain why you would post this?
I'm asking because I don't understand. I thought that martial law and curfew was to begin again tonight at midnight USA mountain time. Has that been changed?
I am under the impression that curfew means to go home and stay there.

 

[Gardenlady]

Not to single you or this post out, GardenLady, as it's only a small hint of a line of thought I've been noticing...

The line of thought I'm inferring from some is that painting with a broad brush, generalizing, judging one by many who wear the same colors is OK for some, but not others.

I don't want to take this too deep, but it's hard not to notice and I think this officer is suffering from prejudice too.

Isn't it wrong to assume the worst about a cop's guilt based on other cops' offenses?

I've said before that I doubt personally that the officer was an overt racist. I doubt he hates blacks or other minorities.

I think he probably holds biases, whether he knows it consciously or not, due to his environment. Whether that environment was his upbringing or his training and employment in his department.

There have been jurisdictions over the years that have been investigated for institutionalized bias. Many have been restructured and improved and that's great. Where I grew up, for example, the departments went out of their way in the late 90s to root out corruption, bias, profiling, etc. From what I see, and hear from family and friends who still live there, there is a much better relationship now between community and LE. Crime is down too, last I looked.

These kinds of changes must happen everywhere. But they really won't if people continue to say they are tired of hearing it, or they dismiss the concerns by saying "it's not about race in this case!". Maybe, maybe not. But people need to at least start by acknowledging that the issue is real and larger than just MB. IMO.


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[katydid23]

Thanks!

I'm saying Dorian was already talking about the cigars long before the police did. I am questioning the veracity of what the police chief said after three tries on Friday: that Wilson suspected that MB and DJ might be the cigar thieves. I mean, the cigar robbery news shocked everyone on Friday--no one seemed to have known of such a robbery. And that is a reason why reporters doubted that the Ferguson PD was forced to release the robbery report because reporters were asking for that report via FOI requests. How could they request documents of things they didn't know about?

It surprised most peeps but not everybody. Dorians atty said he was told about it BEFORE Dorian even retained him.* Word on the street was out already that the victim had been involved in an incident in the liquor store very soon after the shooting. So I bet the local journalists knew about it already. Just a hunch.

ETA: no link, but saw him interviewd today by Poppy something on CNN--she asked if he knew about the robbery before the vids release and he said I knew about it before Dorian retained me

 

[popsicle]

I see it as their loophole. IMO

loophole?

 

[KEVINinTO]

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Bobby Scmedium Shirt &#8207;@Vandalyzm 21m
As I tweeted that. Someone started shooting. Entire crowd at the gas station began to run so did I. As I got to my car, an ambulance comes
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St. Louis County PD @stlcountypd · 6m
Reports that there is one shooting victim near the Quick Trip. We are told the victims injuries are minor. PD & EMS on way.

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

Why? Please explain why you would post this? I'm asking because I don't understand. I thought that martial law and curfew was to begin again tonight at midnight USA mountain time. Has that been changed? I am under the impression that curfew means to go home and stay there.

It is. However if people are protesting quietly and not looting or rioting they should be allowed to do that as well too!

 

[JLSChook]

Tim Pool @Timcast · 19m
I will be reporting in #Ferguson again tonight. Stay tuned, make sure to follow me and @Vicenews

https://twitter.com/Timcast/with_replies

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

People are stepping in front of cars, asking to be run over. Cars starting to get aggravated and trying to swerve around them. I do not see a peaceful ending to this tonight

 

[Muffet]

You mean because his 'color' is blue?

That totally seems like a prejudice to me

Yeah. Me too. I've been shocked by how many I've seen (media, web) demonstrate this double standard so baldly.