MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #5

[Lovejac]

Yes, Linda. Tim said he heard a 'pop'.

I see a couple of police cars ahead. He's checking twitter to see if anything is happening.

 

[Leilei]

Oh my Lord, this is so ugly...

 

[Kimster]

Our scanner peeps have a thread going in the Scanner forum. Remember, what is posted in the Scanner forum STAYS in the Scanner forum. It's like Vegas down there. :yes:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?253894-Scanner-Thread-Ferguson-MO-Protests

 

[Phoebeb]

Holy carp- this is not gonna go well. Everybody riled up

 

[popsicle]

big police line...show of force

 

[popsicle]

Shimon Prokupecz ‏@ShimonPro 3m
So far protesters still staying still refusing to leave and now bottles being thrown #ferguson

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

Who is this woman???




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Looks like she is a reporter for w.stltoday.com St Louis Dispatch Post newspaper

 

[Linda7NJ]

Linda, try going through this way:

https://news.vice.com/article/live-from-ferguson-missouri

Bumping for myself


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[SnoopyDawgDawg]

LE telling people to disperse the street immediately.

Telling people not to throw objects. Sirens going off now.

 

[Lovejac]

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

Did I just see a minister/preacher?

 

[popsicle]

FOX2now ‏@FOX2now 1m
Police form a line wearing gas masks

 

[JLSChook]

Oh here we go!

 

[Phoebeb]

This one wild too- police ordering them over speaker, noise machines now

http://www.ustream.tv/realalexjones

 

[Leilei]

big police line...show of force

Police warning them...

 

[tlcya]

between the livestreams, the live tweets and the scanner thread we have a pretty good overview of this thing and it appears to be heating up.

 

[popsicle]

Retweeted by Paul Hampel
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stevegiegerich ‏@stevegiegerich 1m
Water Bottles thrown #Ferguson "STAND BACK FROM VEHICLES NOW
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[popsicle]

Retweeted by FOX2now
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Andy Banker ‏@andybankertv 3m
#breakingnews:broken glass - reports of Molotov cocktails thrown at police #ferguson Police ready w tear gas @FOX2now
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[popsicle]

Retweeted by STLtoday
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Tony Messenger ‏@tonymess 1m
"Disburse now." Black leaders with megaphones trying to calm the crowd. Things are tense. #ferguson
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[SnoopyDawgDawg]

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

Did I just see a minister/preacher?

Probably. I saw several earlier.

 

[bwt42]

This was posted in the last thread, as I didn't realize it was closing. I will follow Linda7NJ's advice and read backwards. :cheers:

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I apologize if this has been addressed previously, as I am furiously trying to catch up on this thread. Seems futile ATM.

The shot to the hand in my opinion most likely occurred as Mike Brown was running away from the police officer. Try running and notice how your hands flail flat when they are behind your torso as opposed to when they are in front of your torso. I run and bike a few times a week and most people run in this manner from my observations.

In addition, I think the eyewitness accounts of Michael Brown falling to the ground, surrendering with his arms in the air and being shot, might be misinterpreting the sequence of events as they may have actually transpired. The officer's last shot might have hit Brown in the head which caused him to immediately drop to his knees with his arms flailing up in the air looking like he was surrendering, then he collapsed. They interpreted the last shot being delivered as he was surrendering. Gunshot sounds can ricochet or sometimes echo in areas where the shooting took place or a shot milliseconds before Brown went down could be interpreted as being a second later. Milliseconds can seem like seconds in a heightened state of awareness. Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, but it seems like some posters are being too quick to ascribe some of theses accounts as lies or having an ulterior motive, when people unaccustomed to this type of event are just doing their best to process this horrific event they witnessed.

I also don't think there is anything wrong with anyone changing their account if they realize later that what they thought they saw was inaccurate or impossible. That is responsible behavior, failing to do so is being irrationally obstinate. I don't think it impugns a witness credibility (unless the witness is a potential suspect and it show a pattern of fitting their story to fit established facts). I think it improves it, because it shows an ability to think rationally and reason.

-JMO

Just watched Dr. Baden's assistant on Lawrence O'Donnell. He described how the hand wound could have come from either running towards or away from the shooter. New to me, he said the wound higher up on the arm was from the front. So, we now have three shots into the front of MB & 3 undetermined. Therefore, I think the three undetermined shots most likely also came from the front.