MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #5

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  • #881
Awesome post !!!!!!!!!

One of the things I have taken away from what I have seen is that even though the "stop" of MB and friend may not have immediately been because of the theft and assault at the convenience store, the tape does show his demeanor overall. To me it was not his first time of using his size to intimidate and do what he wanted.

To me it is shameful the way this shooting has been used as a guise to demonstrate about race when there is no evidence of it. There were witnesses in the first few days that stated MB was shot in the back. There is no evidence of that, however it fed the frenzy of the crowd. Even the family attorney is using language that MB was "executed" and to my knowledge there is no evidence of that. However the crowd to a degree will "trust" his words when in fact he has an agenda, IMO.

IMO when the chant is "No Justice No Peace" is holding Justice hostage. If you do not QUICKLY give us what WE determine Justice, we will continue the violence and tear up property until then. And all this before an investigation is complete. The idea that the DOJ is called in from day 3 of an investigation is uncalled for when there is yet to be proof of impropriety.

It has been criticized that MB's body lay in the street for 3-4 hours. That was done to allow criminal investigators to arrive and process the scene. It is done all over the US daily. Had his body been removed prior to proper CI to do their work, evidence could have been destroyed. Local knew right away the scrutiny that was coming. They took "hands off" the initial investigation to wait for FBI and County CI, and are being criticized for it.

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  • #882
If i just shoplifted, on video, I would walk in right spot!!!!!

are you sure? Assuming you, like me, would not dream of shoplifting, we cannot know what goes on in the decision making process of those who would or do.

Someone who will shoplift or strong arm a clerk in full view of other customers and video cameras seems very likely to continue their day by strolling boldly down the middle of the street and refusing to move to the sidewalk when tokd to do so by a police officer.
 
  • #883
This other shooting is not good at all. No matter what the facts are, this is just going to fuel the fire in that area even more.

"witness decribes as suicide by cop"
 
  • #884
  • #885
Press conference cnn


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  • #886
  • #887
Police officers have a right to defend themselves and go home at the end of the night...
From presser~chief
CNN
Today's shooting

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  • #889
What is happening now in St L happens 24/7 all over - CNN is making it this huge deal, someone stole , is acting under the influence or suffeing with mental illiness and Cnn is like making all these connections, 711 robbery, africian american, shoplifting.

In all likelihood this is a mental health "event" IMO
 
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  • #891
Couldn't stop watching last night, and some things I saw angered me while some touched my heart.

One very angry man was actually yelling at protestors and was quite aggressive, as the protesters were joined arm in arm, black and white. One of the protestors calmed the man, actually by yelling at him and put his arm around him and made him join in walking arm and arm with the group. That was touching.

Another guy tried to get in the face of a reporter(this was on fox) and I thought surely it was going to end badly, however, the reporter turned it into an interview. Which was positive. But the ignorance shown while the young man answered was so frustrating. He honestly couldn't answer definitively what he wanted to happen as a result of the protest. Just said he would be there all night, every night. And I think that is the case with a lot of the angry individuals. They are mad, not just about MB, perhaps least mad about MB. But the chip they have on their shoulder is unrecognized, and they have actually no game plan for change. THAT is frustrating. If you protest you should have clear, defined examples of why you are there and what you want.

And I grew up from about age 15-23ish, very much involved with mainstream rappers(my bf worked in the industry with some of the biggest rappers). The message that any kids listening to that music is to hate cops, blow money, never snitch, never backdown. And even though it's just music, anything repeated to you enough becomes part of your belief system, especially during an age where kids are so easily molded. I think so many kids, not just young black men, truly do not value themselves as an individual and believe they owe nothing to society. It is a take take take mentality, everyone owes them something. Yet they contribute nothing.

No self esteem, no emotional intelligence and trapped in a culture which tells them they are victims will always lead to anger and resentment. These kids need to know they are more than their skin color, more than their socioeconomic group and that they are valued and have so much to give. But first, and this is a universal truth for ALL people, you must demand more of yourself before you demand more of others.

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  • #892
arrested
charged
tried
convicted

all different.

if MB was arrested for the crime of 2nd degree murder it is entirely possible that he made a deal, snitched, not enough evidence was found to charge him with accomplices or something similar.

Don't know about MO law, but in many states even juvie murder time ends when the murderer ages out of the juvenile system...even mass murderers. The killers are then let loose back on society...and society does not have the right to view their juvenile records!
 
  • #893
I was looking at youtube eyewitness interviews and saw this one of Piaget Crenshaw. I had never seen it before, thought it was interesting to hear this version too- not sure if it was done the day of shooting or after. Hope this is okay to post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpoQkToJOgQ
 
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  • #895
What is happening now in St L happens 24/7 all over - CNN is making it this huge deal, someone stole , is acting under the influence or suffeing with mental illiness and Cnn is like making all these connections, 711 robbery, africian american, shoplifting.

In all likelihood this is a mental health "event" IMO

Today in Philadelphia... Officer has a graze wound to his HEAD.
Suspect...dead
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Philly-Police-Officer-Struck-in-Shooting-271783991.html


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  • #897
And more LE blaming, bashing and accusing is already in full force on Twitter.

BBL, I'm going to build a bunker. :scared:
 
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  • #899
And more LE blaming, bashing and accusing is already in full force on Twitter.

BBL, I'm going to build a bunker. :scared:

My husband said last nite that we need an emergency plan if something like this happens here in Atlanta. That's VERY unlike my hubby, so this unrest is getting to him.


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