RE: Holy, I though Web sleuths was a "victim friendly" site. Half of this thread has been about vilifying Mike Brown. IM
IMO, WS is stating that we do not want to be a forum of hate. However, taking victim friendly to a completely concrete entity is unrealistic. IMO we have no been vilifying anyone. If we take it concrete then practically any thread here is not ok. There is no way to have a discussion about cases, wherein , discussion about the players is not possible - that is what we do here.
And Imo there is some like "we dont know that" keeps going , with the passage of time, that might have been true earlier in the case, but as info comes out, as thinking people it is probably "safe" to draw some inferences that do not need to be proven in 10 years by some legal system.
IE. He is a
. NONE said that in the beginning, however when the video comes out proving without a doubt a strong arm robbery, over cigars no less, that does impact perceptions of what a civilized society, generally,can conclude is unacceptable behavior.
The same angle can be said about being shot in the back. For weeks it was understandable to say " we dont know that" . Again , however, with the passage of time , and more info, we now know that not to be the fact. The fact that after the ot opsy, with a simple diagram of a body on its front or back - one with marks all over it , and the other clean as a whistle - it is a reasonable and fair conclusion for the thread to move in a direction including that information in the dialog.
Same IMO, can be said for the radio call. We dont know that is valid yet. Mankind does not really "know" much. But in light of continuing information and enolization, with the passage of time, it is reasonable to conclude that in most likelihood her call was authentic. Do we KNOW that - no? Same thing - mixing all the data in a bowl and stirring it is logical to think (again in light of other infra ) police commotions in presser stating clearly (posted earlier) that there was an intense smuggle in the vehicle- confided - lods credibility to radio caller reporting that officer described that to her.
One really does not have to wait for cake to totally bake to determine what is in it without a complete scientific analysis of ingredient's. It is cognitive, thinking ever changing envormmnet here - but would be stagnant with three posts if in a concrete fashion the ONLY dialog any of us can have is totally completely without fail or doubt proven to be an ultimate truth (if there is such thing)
It is about careful Ness , in the internet age, in terms of identifying fact from fiction. But much we do know but often that info remains, for some reason, in the "we do not now that" category.
IMO it has to be absorbed as a whole entity, a complete cake. If someone on some cook website posted the cake was laced with gasoline - most of here might pause! However once sugar, milk, and flour, over a ten day period have been discussed, identified, released by officials , it is reasonable to conclude that sugar milk and flour were used without having to have been in the kitchen watching the cake being mixed.
It is a process, IMO much of life is not concrete - CASUE we are cogently animals, dogs know they have to eat - we know why we have to eat they dont - cognitive
And finally, IMO I think some of the "we dont know that", just logically should decrease with the pas age of time and info - especially about salient parts of this mess.
IE We know officer did not have a disciplinary record - we know MB does strong arm robberies. So just from that fact alone notions are formed.AND that is normal to have cognitions that influence things. We do it 45124 times a day . Smelling perfume, a haircut,RYR contact,car one drives,shoes, everything.
Our brains MUST have categories in order to function. Then what is a more desirable trait, a good employee or a criminal? Its a big category but one none the less
Just MO!!!!!!!!!!
