MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #8

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  • #521
I hate that they are calling for the DA to step down. The state senator started that. The man can't be ousted from his job because his father was killed by a black man in 1964. That is not fair. imo

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Seems like the crowd is being allowed to congregate. They are calling for the DA to step down.. Why do I get the feeling that this is not going to end peacefully??
 
  • #522
Discussing the families is not allowed, other than their comments in the MSM about the case. :nono:
 
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  • #524
Discussing the families is not allowed, other than their comments in the MSM about the case. :nono:

Sorry if I was an offender.
 
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Our neighbor was having a problem with neighbor kids in the neighborhood. Apparently, several had walked through his yard, ding-dong-ditched his house, etc...he'd just had enough. Couldn't take it any more and wanted it to stop. Well, the straw that broke his camels back was someone knocked down his mailbox one night. He was convinced it was my kids for some reason, I guess because we live the closest, and called the cops on us. He was mad, I mean really, really mad and demanded that the police arrest my son for doing this even though he had no proof that my son did it. I mean, enough was enough...someone had to pay!!! Well, guess what...my entire family, including my son, were out of the STATE at the time of the mailbox incident and had just come back that very morning when he discovered the mailbox. We had plenty of evidence to show that we were out of the state and there was NO WAY my son did anything to their mailbox.

To this day, my neighbor is still angry. He's angry that he couldn't pin it on my kid. He didn't get his justice and somehow, that was our fault. He is now committed to catching my son (and my other 2) in the act of doing something wrong. He comes out on his porch and stares at them when they walk home from school. He gives me dirty looks whenever I pass his house.

Now - we were lucky. We had proof that my son was innocent and he had no proof that my son was guilty. So while my neighbor is certainly justified in his anger that enough was enough, but guess what, no matter how angry he was he "picked the wrong straw." My guess is that some drunk came barreling down the road at night and hit his mailbox. Or maybe some other kid decided to break it for some reason. I don't know. But if his anger was a good enough reason to demand the prosecution of an innocent kid, then we'd be in big trouble right now.

So no - it doesn't matter that the black community is sick and tired of being harassed. Not in this case. It's not enough. In this case, all that matters is if Officer Wilson feared for his personal safety and was justified in the shooting. Period. End of story. I'm sorry. It's not how things work in this country.
bbm
Well said Duchess.
 
  • #527
Larry Elder I like him the Sage of South Central.
 
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Wow Larry Elder vs Van Jones on CNN
 
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I think the overall majority of protesters are asking for justice. Although they may believe justice means Wilson convicted.
Why do you think there are so many that hold this conviction, yet here on Websleuths it seems we are getting the exact opposite reaction? I don't know the answer to that, I am asking because I really would like to know peoples opinions why.

I have not made up my mind on guilt or innocence. I have not defended DW or demonized MB. That said, I feel DW has been treated unfairly in the media & I can understand posters venting their anger on WS.
 
  • #532
Going to bed, pain is too intense, hoping for calm nights and cool heads to prevail. Night all
 
  • #533
Many years ago in Tallahassee FL, I was involved in a minor traffic accident with a little old grandmotherly lady who argued with the officers. She was clearly at fault, but could not be made to understand. When she realized that she was dealing with Tallahassee Police, I never shall forget her exclamation, "You called police? I always use the highway patrol for my wrecks!" The cop shook his head & under his breath he said to me & another officer, "This is why I left St Pete" & if you know anything about the demographics of FL you'll understand that. He then told the lady " There is only one set of laws & we all use them."

About the controversy over Mcullough, we all go by the same laws. Solicitor, judge, jury - white, black, lime-green with purple polka dots - shouldn't matter. We all go by the same laws.
 
  • #534
Hmm CNN Don Lennon, Larry Elder & Van Jones discussing case interesting the POVs

Even though Lennon suppose to just report but ya know interesting
 
  • #535
Why give the other side any insight into Officer Wilson's side of the story? It is going to be ripped apart and dispelled a thousand times over.

Look at what we currently know and how witness' have changed their stories. It is like the witness who can tell the best story that proves to be the closest to the truth, will hit the jackpot with a tabloid when all is said and done.

It would not surprise me if Officer Wilson has to be given a new identification and leave the Missouri area. It does not seem possible he can safely remain in Missouri. So sad and such a shame. A man just doing his job; a smart mouth teenager with no respect for his superiors!

Just my opinion
 
  • #536
I think the overall majority of protesters are asking for justice. Although they may believe justice means Wilson convicted. Why do you think there are so many that hold this conviction, yet here on Websleuths it seems we are getting the exact opposite reaction? I don't know the answer to that, I am asking because I really would like to know peoples opinions why.


BBM.
I firmly believe that they (the "protestors" and others) indeed do believe that justice means a conviction for Wilson. It's so sad.

For me, taking responsibility for your own actions is paramount in this incident.

Later on, I will try to compose a post that perhaps/hopefully can be helpful for you to come understand what is being said on this forum. A personal story regarding my Dad growing up in South Philly. I'm not attempting to change your opinion; just to understand "peoples opinions why" BBM

Additionally, I don't think that these "protestors" should be there in the first place; at least, until things calm down.

Yes, is it a constitutional right to "protest". However, please try to at least consider what has happened so far in these "protests". Rioting, looting, deaths, throwing urine on LE, throwing Molotov cocktails on LE, children and pregnant women are at these "protests", 2 guns found in a car that were intended to shoot and kill LE, and a squillion other things that have happened thus far.

As I have said, I respect the opinions that you have shared so far; even though I strongly disagree with them. I also respect your earnest attempts to understand what has been stated on this forum from those who disagree with you.

That is why websleuths is so awesome, in that we have the privilege to discuss this incident in a respectful, polite manner. A privilege that is sorely lacking on other forums; which is why I am a member here.

I haven't provided any links and will do so if asked.
 
  • #537
Not sure, but I thought that was the story that Gateway Pundit came out with, then other media picked up on it. They just said a "source" told them orbital blowout.

For some reason I thought a member of LE reported Wilson had the blowout fracture.??
 
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Does anyone have a link to what the community wants? I'm not talking about the arrest of officer Wilson, or the DA or police chief to step down. What do they want? Do they want officers to spend more time in the community? Going door to door to meet the citizens they serve? Do they want in community recruitment days where locals can apply to be a police officer? Do they want more positive interaction? see Brimfield Police Facebook page for an example. How about the personal cams for the officers. Would they like to volunteer to help set them up for each officer? When this simmers down what steps can be taken to keep the community active, verbal, and involved?

This^^

That would be being productive!!!

Where are Jesse and Al ? Why aren't they leading with possible solutions? A town hall productive meeting? Where are the local politicians?

Hmmmmm


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  • #540
If all you know is being hassled by police - especially if you are perceived as being the wrong color for a neighborhood - how is it bias to avoid that?

I will be very upfront and say I have NEVER had a pleasant run in with police until very recently. And I am one of the lighter skinned people in my family. And a woman. But in my 41 (ack) years, the vast majority of interactions have been with rude, arrogant, and needlessly antagonistic cops. I won't even get into that crap I've seen males have to deal with. Awful. When someone can have their head slammed into a cruiser hood repeatedly until they are bloody, and then be charged with "resising arrest", all because they said "what'd I do?!", when the cops can speak to you like you're a piece of dirt an question your presence because they think you don't fit in the neighborhood profile... Just for two examples... Something has to change.


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As a pasty white WASP, I want to say I appreciate you sharing your experience/perspective.

I think of all the times at stores like Walmart, where I have my receipt in hand, prepared to give it to the checker so she can verify I purchased everything in my cart, only to be waved on because I don't "look" like a shoplifter. Or getting pulled over for speeding and being given a "warning" rather than the ticket I probably deserved.

I should be more thankful of the passes I have been given in my life. And I do not say that to make light of your experience, but to acknowledge it.

This may sound cheesy, but there was a movie called "White Man's Burden" with John Travolta. Maybe early 90's? Anyhoo, the premise was your typical story of the bias towards the "lower" classes, only in this movie, the socio-economic elite were primarily people of color, while the disenfranchised were mostly white. Same scenarios played out as those in real life, but it was really weird, as a middle-class white woman, to see the races reversed. In fact, it made me angry. And then I thought, "what if that were my REALITY and not some movie?"

See, we AREN'T the same. Our experiences shape us, and a big part of our experience is due to our race/ethnicity/location. Not to say that we don't all have challenges, but until I have walked a day in, for instance, your shoes, I cannot appreciate where you are coming from in terms of viewpoint. I can try to understand, and hear what you have to say, but that is not me living your life.

I guess that is why talking about racial issues is important and like another poster said, I have never been afraid to engage in a discussion about it. That's how we learn about one another. Pretending that we do not see our diversity is just silly, IMO.

Sorry for the O/T but I think if we had more open discourse about race, then it would be a non-issue and fall flat as a defense in cases like these.
 
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