MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #8

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Governor Nixon won't remove prosecutor...per msnbc

and I get it , but it scares me in a way (which is not ok!) but I just feel we ARE heading for some very serious riots , destruction of propery, in more than one city , deaths - and then I say (which also is sad) I guess if it gets that bad it might have to martail law. Posted a bit back but in light of learning that GJ takes half a year , Houston I think we might have a problem :



And remeber the $$ stuff was destrucion values like 22 years ago:


Minutes between verdict announcement and crowd of 300 gathering outside courthouse: 30

Days of rioting: 6

Number of California National Guard soldiers deployed: more than 10,000

Number of U.S. soldiers and Marines deployed: more than 3,500

Number of Deaths: at least 53

Number of Injuries: 2,383

Number of riot-related crimes reported: more than 16,000

Number of arrests: 12,111

Number of fires: 7,000

Estimated value of property damage: $1 billion

Number of LAPD officers indicted by a federal grand jury for civil rights violations: 4

Number of convictions in federal civil rights trial: 2

Number of acquittals in federal trial: 2



pretty haunting numbers no?:


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Los-Angeles-1992-Riots-By-the-Numbers-148340405.html

I was just talking with my daughter about this case, and telling her about the LA riots, and the Rodney King incident that preceded it.

What a horrible, horrible situation that was.
 
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I will say that revolutionary_z is an instigator..

Reason to keep moving is late is when people congregated and give cover to instigators..

IMO this guy wants to stir things and has skewd view of world just saying?

Go capt Johnson!
 
  • #584
I will say that revolutionary_z is an instigator..

Reason to keep moving is late is when people congregated and give cover to instigators..

IMO this guy wants to stir things and has skewd view of world just saying?

Go capt Johnson!

Capt Johnson just called this kid out for agitating locals!
 
  • #585
I hate hero worship.

I say be a hero to your own children and look out for other people children. Be a stand up father, brother, cousin, uncle....mother, aunt, grandmother etc.... Little ones are looking up at YOU!


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Ummm....ouch????
 
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Capt Johnson told kid that when he leaves and goes home he'll be able to get gas, groceries & clothing in his neighborhood but agitating these crowds they won't have that here the business won't rebuild and he needs to think about that etc.
 
  • #591
Wow the guy on live feed for revolutionary_z ..

idk bet his momma proud .. not!

You said it. I had to turn it off. Talk about biased and a hypocrite. This so called reporter actually attempted to start trouble with Cpt. Johnson and incite the "protesters" around him.
 
  • #592
Oh no.. local started talking to this revolutionary kid about Malcolm X and doesn't seem very good saying if he can't walk in street won't march etc

He definitely wound him up
 
  • #593
(((((Hugs))))))

I was just jumping off yours... No offense meant!


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Thanks - and I didn't state what the link was for. This is O/T a bit, but I am so excited for Jackie Robinson West Little League who is going to the US Championship game at the Little League World Series. My son is friends with 3 of the boys and they are a great group of kids and families. They just so happen to all be black as well, so it just seems like such an opposite view of what we've been watching on TV. I hate even bringing it up, but you just can't escape it. So much negativity on one channel - kids being taught to walk around with hands up don't shoot, etc...perpetuating that white cops are running around murdering black kids and they aren't safe - juxtaposed with a great group of kids who are living life, chasing dreams and having fun....with the color of their skin meaning absolutely nothing.
 
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Thud....who is the woman on CNN? Why am I watching?


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Her opinions did not match up with being a defense attorney.
 
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So here's the deal. Black people have in the past, and continue to be, harassed by cops in a way white people who appear to be affluent never have been. (I say this, although my son was bodyslammed by a cop for saying "what are my rights here?" and another one of my sons was cited for underage drinking when it was clear he did NOT drink and he had to pay $500 in emergency room fees to produce a blood alcohol level of 0% to the court). By and large, white people are treated with respect, and by and large black people are often not. I'm still reeling from this incident last summer in Brazoria county, where two black young women were given pelvics on the side of the road by a cop who didn't even change gloves between anal and vaginal searches of the two girls, turning up nothing although he believed he smelled marijuana in the car. GOOD GOD. There is NO WAY this would have been done to a couple of blonde girls with a Kappa sticker on their car. Link below.

But the thing is, in this case, it appears this officer was clean as can be, and he was defending his life against a very violent young man who might have actually killed him had he not been stopped by gunfire. The cause itself - to work for better treatment of blacks by LE - is valid, but in this case, it doesn't apply at all. I hope and pray that the grand jury feels free to listen to the truth is allowed to win out and people will finally allow DW to continue his life in peace.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...dy-cavity-searches-roadside-article-1.1390230

Not sure if she had a Kappa sticker, but she sure is blond:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...enitals-women-traffic-stops-article-1.1414668
 
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cool j i think it maight be intesting to go to the first thread first post (not sur4e when you first started- i think you would see a slow shitft in the way it changed slowly as more and more info came out - just a notion--my sense is you beliieve it is slanted or not wanting more info

i for ne thougt way out of line because the intila presentaion over and ovre for days was fleeing
but autopsy does disprove that it is scientfic jmo

notion shared reseptfuly but it would be intersting to see your notions from the start just my notions
 
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I was just talking with my daughter about this case, and telling her about the LA riots, and the Rodney King incident that preceded it.

What a horrible, horrible situation that was.

I lived that , up close and personal. My daughter was 8 weeks old and I remember hiding in the bathroom one night, holding her and my 4 yr old son, listening to bricks being thrown up against our front porch in Venice Beach. :eek:
 
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You said it. I had to turn it off. Talk about biased and a hypocrite. This so called reporter actually attempted to start trouble with Cpt. Johnson and incite the "protesters" around him.

I wonder if he's guy arrested 3 times from Austin, tx... I'm sure he'll go back to his hypster apt to finish the graduate degree his folks paying for eating his organic only good while folks in ferguson will have to take 3 buses to get to the nearest store for loaf of wonderbread that's not $4.. <self snip rest of my rant>
 
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Watching the, replay of the Browns on CNN

So sad :(
 
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Odd, that there is so much discussion about black parents warning about interactions with the police.

My parents had the exact same conversation with me, repeatedly. I'll admit as a teen, I was mouthy and sometimes defiant.
But the talks my parents had with me sank in... I was NEVER mouthy or defiant to a cop...ever. And it would never even cross my mind to.


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all moo
This is where it rises to a new level. I agree that a parent whose children are "white" doesn't have the history that a parent that is not white does.
So, I guess the level of fear isn't comparable. I know how I was raised. I was raised to respect authority period, maybe that wasn't really right. If I even get pulled over, I immediately panic (for real). I get dry mouth, can't think straight, start crying and shaking and look like I am guilty of something... I tell them I'm not trying to get out of a ticket, I have a police phobia. If a patrol car pulls up behind me in traffic, I get palpitations.
yep I am a loser!
Not the kids aroind here! If a cop pulls up thses little dudes are readt for a fight, none of them respect adults. They play "nice" around their parents to suck up only. Theyvwalk in the middle if the street. And they don't move for most people.
Unless you can one up them in the mind game department they are absolute nightmares. Luckily they are scared or my husband because he has never cowarded to them. He has snuck up behind them and layed on the horn, he video taped them scattering and said if they don't get out of the way from now on he will post it on TV and embarrass them...
Bully vs bullies I guess.

Anyway to my point... it's the "them" vs "us" mentality IMOO.
I saw it in thw kids in my neighborhood. Sweet guys/girls, that changed overnight. It was scary. I started doing research and I found that this occurs in many middle school aged kids. It happens when they are trying to assert their independence, which they should, but it goes haywire. They get this idea in their heads , as many of us did, how stupid adults are and that they know everything. Most grow out of it. Many in my area don't. I find it rediculous that 17, 18, 19 year old "children" are still in the same mind frame of 12 year olds.
In fact I was so concerned about my kids taking on the mass mentality that I pulled them out of middle school and tried to teach them to "do unto others"
I let them go back in high school and guess what?
The kids were doing the opposite. Treat people like crud, until they give you a reason not to. Many of these kids still haven't grown up, I don't get it. Guess what they are doing now! killing themselves!!! 21-26 years old, and they are dropping dead... everywhere. My son graduated in 2011. His class was about the same size as mine. I graduated in 85, My class has lost 8 graduates. My son has lost 22!!! That isn't counting about 16 friends from other classes that have died. They OD, on purpose, on accident, they get shot, they drown, they have single car wrecks... It really sucks.

Something happens to these kids around 6th grade, the "us" verses "them" mentality.
Kids vs grown ups. It not purple or green or yellow or black or white and around here it hasn't been for a long time.

These "kids" hate every d@mn person in authority period. End of story.

If there is a silver lining at all it's that everyone of them as far as I can tell is "colorblind"
and I want to be happy about that.
sigh... they need to stop dying!



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