MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #8

[Observer in AZ]

i am off to bed gnite folks

 

[Linda7NJ]

i am off to bed gnite folks

Ditto


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[AuburnTxTiger]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/21/st-louis-medical-examiner-slams-brown-family-hire/

Dr. Mary Case, ME St. Louis County has some comments about Shawn Parcells.

Thanks for finding the above link. All the links I have found Parcells capabilities/credentials have been referred to as questionable.

"Baden said Dr. Mary Case, the chief medical examiner of St. Louis County, is "a very excellent forensic pathologist, and I'm sure her work will turn out to be very excellent when it's released."
"Baden said he thinks his findings will be consistent with Dr. Case's findings."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_e27c90b4-8fc9-5118-8f4b-ae98a9d0f552.html

 

[K_Z]

So, anyone that is interested, I'd appreciate the research help.

I can't remember which one, Attorney Parks or Crump, but one of them clearly stated either Friday or Saturday (Aug 15 or 16) in response to a question about the second autopsy, that "it's done" or "it's already done". I remember being a bit startled by that, which is why it stuck in my head.

If anyone can find that, I'd be most appreciative, lol!

 

[Muffet]

Originally Posted by CoolJ
*Muffet snip for clarity*

At no point did he or any eye witness say MB attacked the cop.... These are all just assumptions

Will one of our members please link the admission by the Brown's attorney for CoolJ.

I'm posting from my phone and can't link.

I'm behind, but in case no one has yet, here are the quotes I posted yesterday:

Early statements by Chief Belmar

Belmar said at a news conference on Sunday that when Wilson got out of his squad car, Brown pushed him back in, and a struggle ensued.
Belmar said the incident started when Brown physically assaulted the police officer, pushing him into the officer's vehicle.

He said there was a struggle inside the car, and at some point Brown reached for the officer's weapon. One shot was fired inside the vehicle.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/18/ferguson-darren-wilson-account-michael-brown-shooting


Belmar says Brown physically assaulted the officer, and during a struggle between the two, Brown reached for the officer's gun. One shot was fired in the car followed by other gunshots outside of the car.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crim...olice-news-conference-michael-brown/13860601/

**Two recent comments (on video) by Brown Family lawyers:**

(Two nights ago, after release of report about Wilson's orbital fracture)

"Nancy, without question, there was some level of interaction, strong interaction, between the officer and Michael at the car. We don`t deny that,” Daryl Parks, attorney for Brown’s family said Monday night.

“I think as evidence comes out, you'll see and hear more of that. But that`s not what killed him.”

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/08/18/michael-brown-shooting-autopsy-fight-car

On Megyn Kelly last night:

(Megan asks his theory on why this officer, with a good history would have just opened fire on what we're told is an innocent teenager.)

Parks (Brown Family attorney) answers: "In all due fairness, at the very beginning, at the car, there was a very serious situation between Michael and the officer, without question, in which there may have been blow -they had an altercation.

And at some point, the officer's gun may have come out and a shot's fired."

(He follows by saying that's not the real issue.)

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-kelly-file/index.html#/v/3739124713001

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

So, anyone that is interested, I'd appreciate the research help.

I can't remember which one, Attorney Parks or Crump, but one of them clearly stated either Friday or Saturday (Aug 15 or 16) in response to a question about the second autopsy, that "it's done" or "it's already done". I remember being a bit startled by that, which is why it stuck in my head.

If anyone can find that, I'd be most appreciative, lol!

I have tried to find it. There was discussion here, maybe earlier today concerning the Friday vs Sunday for autopsy. I will keep looking. I'm very tired. May not be awake much longer.
Again, thank you for your medical input and all the research you have done!

 

[bettybaby00]

In my opinion, the attorneys or their paralegals should have performed a google search on Parcells name. That's how I found the articles/links concerning his questionable credentials.

Yea, negative info on him shouldn't have been that hard to find. I mean when an article discussing your professional legitimacy states...

The lingering controversy surrounding Parcells was a frequent topic of discussion at the Missouri coroners’ annual fall meeting last year and at the recent spring meeting, Mays and other coroners said.

It ain't good.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/article_0662e5b1-dcfa-578f-9487-8ab6a176ea4d.html

 

[Muffet]

Ok when you get a chance show me the link where they said MB assaulted Wilson and tried to take his gun. That will go a long way helping me decide what happened

:thumbup: See my post just above.

(I'm so far behind, and need to get to bed, or I'd make sure no one else already answered before I call it a night. Forgive me if it's redundant. )

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

I'm behind, but in case no one has yet, here are the quotes I posted yesterday:

Early statements by Chief Belmar

Belmar said at a news conference on Sunday that when Wilson got out of his squad car, Brown pushed him back in, and a struggle ensued.
Belmar said the incident started when Brown physically assaulted the police officer, pushing him into the officer's vehicle.

He said there was a struggle inside the car, and at some point Brown reached for the officer's weapon. One shot was fired inside the vehicle.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/18/ferguson-darren-wilson-account-michael-brown-shooting


Belmar says Brown physically assaulted the officer, and during a struggle between the two, Brown reached for the officer's gun. One shot was fired in the car followed by other gunshots outside of the car.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crim...olice-news-conference-michael-brown/13860601/

**Two recent comments (on video) by Brown Family lawyers:**

(Two nights ago, after release of report about Wilson's orbital fracture)

"Nancy, without question, there was some level of interaction, strong interaction, between the officer and Michael at the car. We don`t deny that,” Daryl Parks, attorney for Brown’s family said Monday night.

“I think as evidence comes out, you'll see and hear more of that. But that`s not what killed him.”

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/08/18/michael-brown-shooting-autopsy-fight-car

On Megyn Kelly last night:

(Megan asks his theory on why this officer, with a good history would have just opened fire on what we're told is an innocent teenager.)

Parks (Brown Family attorney) answers: "In all due fairness, at the very beginning, at the car, there was a very serious situation between Michael and the officer, without question, in which there may have been blow -they had an altercation.

And at some point, the officer's gun may have come out and a shot's fired."

(He follows by saying that's not the real issue.)

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-kelly-file/index.html#/v/3739124713001

Do you remember seeing a discussion earlier today concerning MB family attorneys saying second autopsy was done on a Friday, but Dr Baden did not arrive in Missouri until the following Sunday? I can not find the link.

 

[Ladylub]

I wanted to say this earlier and I keep getting wrapped up in trying to get caught up.

The latest witness came out saying others are scared to come out and say what they saw..... I truly doubt that unless they are backing the cop's story. Right now all those backing MB are backed by a community and sadly officials who should be so tight lipped on this right now. Off a friends page she was posting things she found on FB . They were not fact and evidence like the autopsy picture proves it to be flat out wrong. Another lady commented we need to sit and let things come out before passing judgement, got completely post slapped for her opinion. So I kept my finger from typing away. But I soon thought how would that help the situation so I posted articles. Never my opinion just articles from all different media outlets. One guy who had been at the very front of the pack wanting Wilson's head read some of the articles. He said after reading them and not just listening from this person or that one, that he was sitting on the sidelines with the other lady. I thought the other woman got a post slap this guy got hit hard with you are turning your back on your own race (<--- if I had to pick the nicest comment he got it was that one.) My friend ended up deleting the post b/c she does not like hate on her page ( she was speaking of this guy not the comments made about him)

 

[gramcracker]

I'm wondering if any of the local stores there sell bath salts? Brown IMO didnt appear to be in his "right" mind that day.

Would synthetic marijuana be classified as marijuana in the preliminary tox screen???

http://m.abc17news.com/news/synthetic-drugs-can-be-found-all-over-midmissouri/27115072

I don't think so because there's no THC in the synthetic. they'd have to be testing for MDPV because the screens are specific as to which/how many substances they look for

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdpv/mdpv_effects.shtml

 

[Muffet]

Do you remember seeing a discussion earlier today concerning MB family attorneys saying second autopsy was done on a Friday, but Dr Baden did not arrive in Missouri until the following Sunday? I can not find the link.

Yes. I'll see if I can find it real quick.

 

[Phoebeb]

Here is the NYT article that quotes Dr. Baden as flying to Missouri on Sunday, Aug 17, 2014. Bolded by me.



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/u...-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=1

Looking for the clip of Atty Crump saying on Friday (Aug 15) that it was "done".

I found it but don't think I can link it here- not msm. There is a YouTube video within the article but on my phone and it was garbled. I did hear crump say the autopsy was done, but we'll talk about that later. Very strange indeed

 

[CoolJ]

:thumbup: See my post just above.

(I'm so far behind, and need to get to bed, or I'd make sure no one else already answered before I call it a night. Forgive me if it's redundant. )

Still don't see anywhere where browns lawyer is saying MB assaulted Wilson and took his gun.... Keep digging

 

[K_Z]

So, anyone that is interested, I'd appreciate the research help.

I can't remember which one, Attorney Parks or Crump, but one of them clearly stated either Friday or Saturday (Aug 15 or 16) in response to a question about the second autopsy, that "it's done" or "it's already done". I remember being a bit startled by that, which is why it stuck in my head.

If anyone can find that, I'd be most appreciative, lol!

This is a press conference from Friday, Aug 15.

Beginning at 11:06 Attorney Parks says: (my transcription)

"The family, we have had, participated in the second autopsy.. for our purposes, in terms of, as civil lawyers, in this case...We've asked the Department of Justice to consider doing their own autopsy....."

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/15/live-...-the-media-from-ferguson-police-headquarters/

 

[KEVINinTO]

So, anyone that is interested, I'd appreciate the research help.

I can't remember which one, Attorney Parks or Crump, but one of them clearly stated either Friday or Saturday (Aug 15 or 16) in response to a question about the second autopsy, that "it's done" or "it's already done". I remember being a bit startled by that, which is why it stuck in my head.

If anyone can find that, I'd be most appreciative, lol!

I think I found something! A presser from Friday August 15th. . Very poor audio but seemingly Crump is asked about the autopsy and he replies "its done but we will talk about that later".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85pgpVDlIqE

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/21/st-louis-medical-examiner-slams-brown-family-hire/

Dr. Mary Case, ME St. Louis County has some comments about Shawn Parcells.

Were you on line earlier today when this was being discussed?
"ABC 17 News looked into Johnson's past and found out he has also been charged with filing a false police report in the same year."
Key witness in Ferguson wanted in Jefferson City

http://www.abc17news.com/news/key-witness-in-ferguson-wanted-in-jefferson-city/27624066

 

[gramcracker]

CNN: Capt Johnson, nightly briefing/presser on now

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

This is a press conference from Friday, Aug 15.

Beginning at 11:06 Attorney Parks says: (my transcription)

"The family, we have had, participated in the second autopsy.. for our purposes, in terms of, as civil lawyers, in this case...We've asked the Department of Justice to consider doing their own autopsy....."

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/15/live-...-the-media-from-ferguson-police-headquarters/

I don't understand why MB family and their attorneys would want or need for DOJ to do a third autopsy. The family just had Dr Baden donate for free his time to do a second autopsy. I am really trying not to think that they are going to keep requesting new autopsies until they get the results they want.

 

[Muffet]

Do you remember seeing a discussion earlier today concerning MB family attorneys saying second autopsy was done on a Friday, but Dr Baden did not arrive in Missouri until the following Sunday? I can not find the link.

Ok... Is this the one?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-teen-Michael-Brown-8&p=10885068#post10885068

Check this out--it is being discussed on another blog that I can't link, but I think it is a big deal. This press conference with Daryl Parks was held on Friday August 15. At about 12:55, a reporter asks Parks if the 2nd autopsy was completed and he says YES. However, Baden did not fly into St. Louis until the 17th to do the autopsy.

Whaddya think?

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/15/live-...-the-media-from-ferguson-police-headquarters/