MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #10

[BeanE]

LE having their lights flashing as they return to the home is interesting...

And the search happening while the family (although I don't know if that includes the parents) are out at the raceway selling tshirts and passing out flyers.

 

[tlcya]

KCTVPhotog_Josh Josh Collins
Police just entered #LisaIrwin home again.
17 seconds ago

This bears repeating! TY TY

Off to monitor about a million news sources awaiting more!

 

[HatesSociopaths]

I have a theory which would rely on a certain point so am wondering if anyone knows if this has been covered yet by the father. When did his new schedule get created? My theory rests on the notion that HE set up this new schedule within about 24 hours to it starting (ie. since the baby was last seen by others at the birthday pary.)

The theory is basically that somehow negligence caused the death of baby Lisa on Sunday night after the party, or perhaps the next day (the last day the parents saw her.) The mother and father then plotted a kidnapping story, perhaps afraid they would lose custody of their other two kids if the truth were to be revealed. They had to hide the phones because of that alleged 2:38 phone call between each other (MOO) confirming the baby had been disposed of at the dumpster and set to flames.

MOO.

 

[saba]

If you look at the image attached I was responding to in THAT post, there is NO teen sitting on the porch. I was just stating that these two ('a teen' being questioned and 'this house' are in fact the same. I did NOT respond to the image where A teen is sitting on the porch!

I hope I am never the verified local. Thanks for all you do!

 

[matou]

What if someone wanted to rape the mother and because there was a boy sleeping in the bed with her, he took baby Lisa instead. He already had the phones taken from the counter in a bag or his pockets. JMO

 

[In da Middle]

The local/WS member was very careful not to say that the person on the steps is the teen in question. The member only verified that the house in the picture had been of some unmentioned type of interest to the WS member. The member also stated the location and proximity of that house but was very careful about mentioning specific people at the house. Only said it was not abandoned and that there were "issues" at that house.

THANK YOU!!!!!! I could just give you a great big hug!

 

[norest4thewicked]

I don't see the reason for having lights flashing for a routine search....can't think of one reason for it unless media and looky-loos are crowding the street.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I hope I am never the verified local. Thanks for all you do!

Boy, no kidding!

 

[kmartin96]

Thanks! When I compare to baby Lisa's story....I wonder...

Why couldn't dogs tell as much in Baby Lisa's situation. In my story, the dogs could tell where the person parked, where the person walked.

Also, I think my story does show that if a brazen person wants into your house, they will attempt it, whether or not there are signs that people are home.

 

[Renea]

I have a theory which would rely on a certain point so am wondering if anyone knows if this has been covered yet by the father. When did his new schedule get created? My theory rests on the notion that HE set up this new schedule within about 24 hours to it starting (ie. since the baby was last seen by others at the birthday pary.)

The theory is basically that somehow negligence caused the death of baby Lisa on Sunday night after the party, or perhaps the next day (the last day the parents saw her.) The mother and father then plotted a kidnapping story, perhaps afraid they would lose custody of their other two kids if the truth were to be revealed. They had to hide the phones because of that alleged 2:38 phone call between each other (MOO) confirming the baby had been disposed of at the dumpster and set to flames.

MOO.

But last night Deborah said a neighbor was over right before all this happened.

 

[BeanE]

thanks, BeanE, you are so efficient! I still wonder , though, because DB SAID that they accused her directly; did they or is this how she took it? Guess I will just leave it at that and take her at her word; it came from her mouth to my eyes and ears.
I'm on "the Great Wall" right now and take everything that comes from the media spokespersons with a grain of salt and a wait and see attitude but thankfully they are getting Lisa's case out there!
Someone PLEASE TELL WHERE LISA IS!!!

I dunno. She said twice, in two very separate interviews. They may have used different wording, and "You killed her" is simply what she perceived, or what she took as the meaning from their words.

Personally, though, because she did say it twice, in two separate interviews, I think it is what they said to her. It sounds like very typical interrogation for this type of situation.

What has me flummoxed though, is why they would say that, why they would suspect her, from Day One, and 2 days before she even failed the poly. What did they have that put them so quickly into that mode? Young has stressed that they do *not* go by statistics, but that they take the facts and evidence they have for the individual case. So what did they have right from the git-go?

 

[LadyPirate]

I have a possibly dumb, possibly irrelevant question about the list of 9 or so people drawn up by JI. Why would a woman cheating on her husband kidnap a baby? Sorry, not trying to be dumb or snarky here, but I do not see how those 2 ideas are even related. I understood the other things, like a woman who has recently lost a child, but this one escapes me. Maybe it's because I am happily childfree, or because I've never cheated, I dunno...sometimes I think my tagline should be "expert in neuroscience, generally clueless otherwise."

Because a woman cheating on her husband might take THEIR baby and leave? She might drop the baby off somewhere until she's able to go too? Hypothetically of course.

 

[Patty G]

Partial Judge Jeannie Interview with the parents.

[ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1209530440001/what-happened-to-baby-lisa/[/ame]

[ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1208665557001/exclusive-did-deborah-bradley-fail-a-lie-detector-test/?playlist_id=163706[/ame]

[ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1208764392001/exclusive-parents-of-missing-baby-lisa-speak-out/?playlist_id=163706[/ame]

[ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1207459722001/wheres-baby-lisa/?playlist_id=163706[/ame]

[ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1207454765001/10-month-old-baby-missing/?playlist_id=163706[/ame]

 

[BeanE]

Today's the day!

KCTVPhotog_Josh Josh Collins
More police arriving at #LisaIrwin home. yfrog.com/oc9wnqj
4 minutes ago

 

[Wishbone]

Here's a snip video of the Jeanine interview from last night


[ame]http://video.foxnews.com/v/1208764392001/exclusive-parents-of-missing-baby-lisa-speak-out/?playlist_id=87485[/ame]

 

[Renea]

KCTVPhotog_Josh Josh Collins
More police arriving at #LisaIrwin home. yfrog.com/oc9wnqj
4 minutes ago

I am getting goose bumps!

 

[norest4thewicked]

Thanks! When I compare to baby Lisa's story....I wonder...

Why couldn't dogs tell as much in Baby Lisa's situation. In my story, the dogs could tell where the person parked, where the person walked.

Also, I think my story does show that if a brazen person wants into your house, they will attempt it, whether or not there are signs that people are home.

kmartin...not to be OT for this thread, but do you have a link where you gave your story? I'd be interested to read it.

 

[tlcya]

can anyone link any live footage or coverage of this most recent development??? I am not seeing anything regarding Lisa being possibly found and do not have the national news stations such as fox news or cnn on my home tv.

TIA!

 

[keeponsearching]

I have a sheet my pediatric gave me for correct dosage.
Acetaminophen Infant Concentrated 80mg/.08mL
5-9lbs .04mL
10-14lbs .08mL
15-19lbs 1.2mL
20-24lbs 1.6 mL

Ibuprofen Infants COncentrated 50mg/1.25mL
5-9lbs .625 mL
10-14lbs 1.25mL
15-19lbs 1.875 mL
20-24lbs 2.5mL

Tylenol Suspension Liquid( acetaminophen ) 160mg/5mL
10-14 pounds 1/2 tsp
15-19 pounds 3/4 tsp
20-24 pounds 1 tsp
25-30 pounds 1 1/4 tsp

Ibuprofen Suspension Liquid 100mg/5mL
10-14 pounds 1/2 tsp
15-19 pounds 3/4 tsp
20-24 pounds 1 tsp
25-30 pounds 1 1/4 tsp


Now at 1 yr my daughter weighed 21 pounds So that would either be 1sp of liquid or 2.5 ml of concentrated. . Now this is just regular. Everyone knows under a certain age ( i can not tell you, I do not give my kids it anyways) to not give multi symptom drugs meds.

 

[cluciano63]

OK sounds like a lot of LE converging on the home...maybe some news to come soon...