MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #10

[liz b.]

In the interview we discussed last night :

Jeremy said that he knew something was wrong when he saw that most of the lights in the house were on. Then he said " She usually only leaves a few lights on " paraphrasing. So, doesn't that mean that Deb was in the habit of leaving house lights on ? I presume that it means that she did this even when Jeremy was home ? Because wasn't this his first night shift ?

I'm thinking that Deb left the lights on. Has she ever indicated otherwise ? I think she forgot to turn them off.And forgot to lock her front door... Which is strange since their car was previously broken into, and she was supposedly alone there with the children... MOO

 

[grandmaj]

The facts.

All MSM has reported is that a teenager, not the teenager pictured but A teenaged neighbor was questioned for about an hour, and because he had been in the home of Lisa he had DNA taken.

And that the youth lived at the house in the video.

All the rest is RUMOR.

 

[annalia]

Wow. I see absolutely none of that. I wouldn't be able to even guess at a single emotion a single person in that picture was feeling, even if my life depended on it.

I definitely don't see anything to indicate anything is confrontational, heated, serious, overwhelmed, scared, or upset.

Just... wow, GardenLady. I just don't see how you are getting all that out of that picture. I must be completely brain dead.

I remember there being a video posted that showed the same group as in the photo. The threads are moving so fast I probably couldn't find it, but if it's from the same time which it looked like it was, the video didn't show that it was confontational or heated, a few of them were laughing in it and seemed relaxed.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

As for the media thing, IMO, it could be because they do NOT want Lisa's picture out there. If the child has been given away, or sold, and this is all hypothetical, then you wouldn't want anybody to recognize her now would you? The way children grow and change, in 2 or 3 months, she probably wouldn't be as recognizable when out and about.

When flying within the US, do children have to have any kind of ID, especially if they are going to sit on the lap? I know internationally they have to have a passport, and sometimes, it's necessary to provide documentation that you have permission to take the child out of the country.

I keep hoping that this child is with someone who wanted a child, but maybe they only wanted a blond haired, blue eyed child. One that would look more like themselves.

I do not believe if you take an infant on the plane that you have to show ID for the infant? Does anybody know this? I have seen many families fly with infants and have been in line in front of me after getting tickets from a Kiosk and then in line in front of me through security and I honestly can say, I only see them check the parent driver license and tickets.

 

[Gardenlady]

This is the link I had from yesterday a.m. Teen question, DNA sample taken:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-teen-questioned-police-california-tip/t/story?id=14695496

 

[JBean]

I hate to even say this-but I have been trying to figure out why this weight issue is bothering me. It seems so basic to know your childs weight and to make sure it is accurate on a missing flyer.
Didn't we see that on the missing flyers for Caylee Anthony? I think her weight was overstated by quite a bit-am I remembering that correctly?

Could be something-could be nothing.

 

[SuziQ]

The facts.

All MSM has reported is that a teenager, not the teenager pictured but Ateenaged neighbor was questioned for about an hour, and because he had been in the home of Lisa he had DNA taken.

All the rest is RUMOR.

I believe the house is accurate?

 

[Gardenlady]

Apologies for the double post... Got an error message the first time I tried. Server must be hiccuping with all the traffic!

 

[momtective]

So the person in the pic is the teen that had the DNA taken? How do we know that?

TIA

Yes according to our verified local, he is the kid...and yes, according to our verified local the kid in this video is him.
http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-steve-young-kcpd-lisa-irwin-update-20111008,0,6871031.story

 

[BeanE]

I am sure you are not brain dead beane! I think different people take different things from pictures. Why something strikes one person one way and someone else another is hard to define.
Shoot think how many times you and I and others have looked at the exact same information and interpreted it completely differently. What is it? daily? LOL

Indeed! I still have the scars to prove it! Fresh wounds, in fact.

 

[SuziQ]

This is the link I had from yesterday a.m. Teen question, DNA sample taken:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-teen-questioned-police-california-tip/t/story?id=14695496

God bless you!

 

[grandmaj]

I believe the house is accurate?

I fixed my post. Thanks.

 

[Chris_Texas]

To you.

Also, I don't think anyone said it speaks volumes to the teen being involved. To me, it shows something heavy is happening in that discussion, and the person by themselves seems fairly upset by it.

Considering the adults are discussing a missing and possibly murdered child I would say yes, something heavy is being discussed. But to be clear, you would find it LESS suspicious if LE were having this heated discussion with the kid? Is that not backwards?

In any case, there is nothing unusual or suspicious about someone wanting to be alone for a while in their grief -- particularly a kid, and even more so if the adults are talking about things he prefers not to think about. Before accusing someone of behaving unusually, it is best to consider what normal behavior would be. Sitting by yourself is evidence of one thing only: that at the moment in time that this image was captured this kid either didn't feel like hanging with the adults or was asked by the adults to go away. That's it.

In this particular case there is absolutely NOTHING to suggest that this kid was involved at all. Nothing to support this theory, including statistics or the few facts we know about this case. The only reason he is being mentioned here at all is that...

1. He is a teen, teens are scary
2. He is a male, men are both are scary and guilty
3. He isn't mom, and it couldn't have been her

 

[BeanE]

So the person in the pic is the teen that had the DNA taken? How do we know that?

TIA

It's been vetted locally.

How? Where? Please point me to that?

 

[Shelby1]

IIRC,The DNA taken was reported by media days ago. I couldn't begin to try to find the link now.

ETA: might have come out more currently. Days are running together!

From my timeline


**Possible new lead. Teenage neighbor being questioned. Also, DNA taken from teen. Neighbor was home the day Lisa disappeared and also knew the code to get into the garage.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-teen-questioned-police-california-tip/story?id=14695496

 

[SurfieTX]

I do not believe if you take an infant on the plane that you have to show ID for the infant? Does anybody know this? I have seen many families fly with infants and have been in line in front of me after getting tickets from a Kiosk and then in line in front of me through security and I honestly can say, I only see them check the parent driver license and tickets.

When my kids have flown in the past alone or with us, security just checks our IDs, not the kids.

 

[Tuffy]

The teen was fingered as the suspect?? Where does this come from, I haven't heard that.

As far as the teen, unless I missed it and LE said he or she was a suspect, this could be nothing more than LE being thorough. They knew the teen was there and anyone close to the home or family would undoubtedly be questioned. I don't even see taking DNA necessarily as evidence that LE say the teen is a suspect.

JMHO

I think the family mentioned he was someone they suspected, and that is what led the police to question, and take DNA from him/her.

 

[Gardenlady]

Maybe the "something serious" is that they are investigating the disappearance of a baby.

This teen has nothing to do with this until implicated by LE. Asking for DNA is routine, it helps narrow things down. It doesn't mean he is involved. I think we should heed what the mods are asking here.
:innocent:
:twocents:
:seeya:

I'd venture to say the teen has something to do with the story, since they have been reported in mainstream media as having been questioned, and having a DNA sample taken. Notably, it's the only mention of a DNA sample having been taken from ANYONE. :twocents:

 

[BeanE]

The facts.

All MSM has reported is that a teenager, not the teenager pictured but A teenaged neighbor was questioned for about an hour, and because he had been in the home of Lisa he had DNA taken.

And that the youth lived at the house in the video.

All the rest is RUMOR.

Ah. Thank you, grammie. :grouphug:

 

[Shelby1]

How? Where? Please point me to that?

NimaKCTV5 2 hours 14 mins ago Twitter
Detectives from @kcpolice at this home in #LisaIrwin neighborhood for the second time. Updates on #KCTV5 News at 6 & 10 yfrog.com/nv3btaj--


**the above is the teen neighbor’s house.



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When this came out yesterday, our verified local In Da Middle verified that this is the teen's house.