MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #10

[Boodles]

I haven't seen Irwin's and Bradley's ages published. Does anyone know their ages?

 

[annalia]

Here is a video showing close-ups not sure if that is the one you are talking about, starts at about the 2:15 mark.

http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-steve-young-kcpd-lisa-irwin-update-20111008,0,6871031.story

That's it, thank you!

It does look like the still came from that video. It doesn't look to me that it was heated or confrontational.

JMHO

 

[Chris_Texas]

Something posted yesterday stuck in my head overnight and I woke up thinking about it. They said that Lisa was frequently seen sitting out front with the baby and would wave to neighbors.

Now if this is true, and someone reported seeing the baby one block over at 2:30 a.m. with a man going into a house, I would not be surprised if someone has been watching for an opportunity.

Given the news in another case, about Steve Powell spying on his neighbors with a telephoto camera, I would be asking, which houses on the street one block over have a clear view of this house, so that they can see when the lights get dimmer or brighter, or even when a car leaves the property? Were there any men who were regular joggers or dog walkers in the neighborhood, such that the family dogs would "know" them and not bark?

If someone saw this they also saw the house. LE would have already checked up on it.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

The parents seem to be saying more about the events around the "kidnapping" than giving pertinent details like those you have mentioned.

That is very important!

We have all been following this case yet none of us knows for sure if little Lisa could she even:
Walk
Talk

We don't know:
What her favorite toy is.
Was she a light sleeper?
Did she cry a lot?
What was her favorite food.
Did she use a sippy cup, yet?
Did she like animals or was she afraid of them?

Here is what we know from the mother/dad and the missing report.
Age
Weight
skin color
hair and eye color
she was a happy baby
she would go to anyone
she had a birthmark on her thigh...BUT WHICH THIGH...we don't know.
she had a bug bite over her eye

What else have the parents/family said that might identify Lisa?

Favorite toy was Barney which mom was holding in an interview. Went to bed with a bottle...so not sure if both sippy cup in daytime and bottle at night. But why would that be important? Birthmark on right thigh.

 

[mrye4709]

I see alot of discussion of Lisa's weight and height and want to clarify why it concerns me. I'm not so concerned that the parents may not know the exact numbers, just what if that is wrong and someone sees Lisa and thinks, no that can't be her, she is bigger than that. Makes me want to weigh and measure my grandkids every time I see them!

 

[tlcya]

Welcome back to posting Ginny and congratulations on your daughters

 

[annalia]

I thought that was the question? The local verified that's the house that the teen in question lives.

I think the question was about the identity of the person sitting on the step as being the teen in question, but I wll go back and check.

 

[BeanE]

Ah okay. Please point me to where our verified local stated that the kid in the video and picture is the DNA kid? I missed that.

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YES!!!!! that is exactly the house I was inquiring about if anybody had an image of. And yes I have my reasons and this is the teen that immediately that came to mind!!!! Yes it is a 'he' and yes lets just say this family has 'issues'. FYI house is on the other side of the street from them on the corner of lister and chelsea.

There are 4 or 5 people in that *very* blurred pic, which is not the pic of the person sitting on the steps, so forgive me, but I'm still not getting it.

What is telling you that the person on the steps in the other pic is the DNA teen?

Sorry I'm so dense. I really wish somebody would just say it outright, because if I'm supposed to be picking up clues, my old lady's brain is just not getting it.

 

[wfgodot]

Welcome back to posting Ginny and congratulations on your daughters

Yes, I second that motion, welcome back to posting, Ginny!

 

[vlpate]

Someone posted a link last night to a news update which revealed DB is still married. There was supposed to be an update at 10 revealing DB's checkered past - I've spent an hour trying to find the first news update in order to watch the second news update.....HELP please....anyone remember this and where I might find the first one? Thanks

 

[BeanE]

Not following you, Shelby1. What about that tells us that the person in the pic is the DNA teen?

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Thanks. I get the connection from the local saying that's the DNA teen's house.

What I'm not getting is how we know that the person sitting on the steps is the DNA teen.

TIA

 

[JBean]

By the dosage on the bottle. Babies here do get weighed now & again, if there are concerns about weight issues.

Ok that is the difference. Here, the dosages for infants are often determined by weight (and age).

 

[cluciano63]

It was reported several days ago that neither parent has any "serious criminal
record." Do we know what types of crimes they have on their records?

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44798...arents-missing-baby-well-do-anything-get-her/

 

[MoonFlwr]

Good Morning Peeps..I am hoping for a good day and Lisa comes home!
I have been thinking about the father and what he thought and saw when he got home that night.
you all know,being women-we are very emotional,esp-when it comes to our children..now I don't know if the mother had anything to do with this..but I am going to put this out there.IF and that is a big IF the mother did something to Lisa whether it was accidentally or on purpose-she would be hysterical and crying for probably hrs-her eyes would probably be red and swollen from all the crying and her mind would be racing..men can tell when women have been crying..my question is this-Did the father notice his wife's face when he came in and said Lisa is missing. Some of the pics we have seen of them together show they are close to one other,but some show him not real emotional towards her..I don't how to post real well what I am trying to say..but does anyone understand what I am trying to say?

I think that some people, when they go out in public, have a steely face which they put on, as a form of protection. He isn't just out in public he is out on television. He may just have decided to steel himself a certain way, in order to keep a barrier up and not allow people in, to speculate.

 

[Boodles]

I agree that I find the father more disturbing in his behavior than the mother, for all the reasons listed above. Maybe it's his personality, maybe he doesn't know what to do or doesn't believe her. But in all photos and interviews, I've found her more convincing than him.

Interesting. I feel the exact opposite. I interpret him to be an introvert and probably not comfortable being in the spotlight. She, on the other hand, seems to be a "talker," extroverted, and something feels like she doesn't mind being the center of attention. I find her tears and comments to be disingenuous.

I truly hope the baby has been abducted and is safe somewhere. But I can't feel it no matter how much I try to convince myself. She creeps me out.

And I speculate (no reason, just pure speculation) that LE has a good grip on what they believe happened, and they are playing the "gathering up the evidence" game at this point. I hope I am wrong.

 

[chasing.halos]

So, a breakdown...
A teen neighbor has been questioned per MSM
A teen neighbor has had DNA samples taken per MSM

Per our verified local:
A teen neighbor is pictured in MSM. Emphasis on A. We don't know IF this teen neighbor pictured is THE neighbor.

Am I right here? If so, boy we have gotta be careful and probably not talk about that picture of a minor because we don't know if that is THE teen.

 

[SuziQ]

There are 4 or 5 people in that *very* blurred pic, which is not the pic of the person sitting on the steps, so forgive me, but I'm still not getting it.

What is telling you that the person on the steps in the other pic is the DNA teen?

Sorry I'm so dense. I really wish somebody would just say it outright, because if I'm supposed to be picking up clues, my old lady's brain is just not getting it.

Well there is only one "HE" in that picture and the local verified that the teen is a he. I don't see the pic as very blurred.

 

[Shelby1]

There are 4 or 5 people in that *very* blurred pic, which is not the pic of the person sitting on the steps, so forgive me, but I'm still not getting it.

What is telling you that the person on the steps in the other pic is the DNA teen?

Sorry I'm so dense. I really wish somebody would just say it outright, because if I'm supposed to be picking up clues, my old lady's brain is just not getting it.

I thought your question was about which house it was. I'm verifying that the verified local (lol) has verified that's the house.

Our local can verify if that's the teen. Not sure about that.

 

[saba]

Someone posted a link last night to a news update which revealed DB is still married. There was supposed to be an update at 10 revealing DB's checkered past - I've spent an hour trying to find the first news update in order to watch the second news update.....HELP please....anyone remember this and where I might find the first one? Thanks

http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-bradleys-family-talks-about-past-20111008,0,1316565.story

 

[annalia]

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Again, to me that appears to be confirmation that it is the house in question, not confirmation that the person sitting on the step is the teen in question. I believe this was the poster's original question, where is the confirmation that it is the same teen who is sitting on the step.

JMHO