MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #12

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  • #781
Denvals, I am so sorry for your loss & nightmare life.
I see you mention "her', think it was a female who kidnapped your brother?
Let's pray she needed a baby for LOVE and he had a happy life. Pray you will find him someday alive and well.
This could be the case with baby Lisa, some womn that wanted a baby so bad and couldn't have one of her own.
Pray that baby Lisa is safe!
 
  • #782
Does anyone know what time elementary gets out around there? I wonder if the boys are picked up or take the bus. And then further, if anyone saw Lisa around the time the boys got out/home. It is unreal that not one person has come out and said "i saw Lisa @ 5 pm that day."
Unless I missed the last known sighting of this baby. I know she was at a party Sunday. Then nothing


eta: I am so not sleuthing these poor boys. Just looking into what mom & Lisa could be doing w/ their time.
And we know nobody has said this how? Again, just because it hasn't been reported, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I personally know of several things around here that I have personally witnessed that are not being reported on. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, though.
 
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  • #784
In the JJ interview video the mother says they almost never leave windows open then goes on to say she left the computer room window open and when JI saw it he knew something was wrong? Why did she leave the window open, she didn't say she forgot to close it....None of what she says makes the least bit sense........

Smoker?
 
  • #785
I see your point but there has to be a limit somewhere on how long an interview can last. Or on repeated interviews.

There is not. In addition, false confessions are associated with long interrogations (average 16+ hours in one study of false confessions). Interrogations are now recorded in some states by law (two I know of are MN and IL), but generally, LE has very wide latitude until person being questioned lawyers up. Miranda doesn't apply until one is in custody either, i.e. not free to leave /arrested.

Eve
 
  • #786
In the JJ interview video the mother says they almost never leave windows open then goes on to say she left the computer room window open and when JI saw it he knew something was wrong? Why did she leave the window open, she didn't say she forgot to close it....None of what she says makes the least bit sense........

Maybe it was hot in the house that day. She did say in the video that she from time to time leaves a window open in the summer..She looked like she felt REALLY bad for leaving that window open. Right after that the day was very sweet and held her, kissed her head and looked emotional himself....IMO
 
  • #787
Heycameraman HC
Not alot of activity at #LisaIrwin home. bit.ly/oMWTh3
25 seconds ago

OMG - what are they looking for now. This case has driven me batty! If they bring out those metal detectors again ......(sigh).

Thanks for the tweets btw.
ETA: Misread = NOT a lot of activity ........ yikes that is worse than bringing out the metal detectors again
 
  • #788
EricKCTV5 Eric Chaloux
TIPS Hotline says about 1,000 phone calls on #LisaIrwin case. A couple hundred have turned into tips. Calls as far as Hawaii.
28 seconds ago
 
  • #789
My first impression of the page was that I was being yelled at before I said anything. It's immature to stir the pot (i.e., You don't want to donate? DON'T!) and a little offputting. My second impression was that the page gives me no idea where my money would actually land.[/QUOTE]

BBM

That's why I'm hoping that it is legit.
 
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Still doesn't explain leaving the window open and knowing it when they almost never do that. Add to that when JI comes home just seeing the window open makes him think something is wrong........
 
  • #791
My first impression of the page was that I was being yelled at before I said anything. It's immature to stir the pot (i.e., You don't want to donate? DON'T!) and a little offputting. My second impression was that the page gives me no idea where my money would actually land.
Just for grins I went there last night, and clicked on comments. People were being brutally frank concerning their impressions of the parents involvement. If it is the families fb page I can see where they wouldn't want those comments, that are hurtful to the family. It was full of rumors and little snide remarks.

Another thing, last night I found 3 different FB pages pertaining to baby Lisa. I wasn't sure which was the real deal and which wasn't.

If I was a person that would donate to those causes, I would be very, very careful that I wasn't giving to someone taking advantage of someone's tragedy. JMOO
 
  • #792
Saw one tweet about LE now searching river, but can't find any details elsewhere. Any locals able to verify?
 
  • #793
Maybe it was hot in the house that day. She did say in the video that she from time to time leaves a window open in the summer..She looked like she felt REALLY bad for leaving that window open. Right after that the day was very sweet and held her, kissed her head and looked emotional himself....IMO



Like I said before, I'm most likely jaded at this point, but I just don't believe a lot of what she is saying.........
 
  • #794
I'm not buying the whole intruder thing.......

first, who would take 3 cell phones? (unless they were there to rob the place and they just happened upon baby Lisa's room and decided to take her too, that's always a possibility).

How did the intruder know where baby Lisa's room was located? (unless he walked through the front door first).

surely, this child was crying when someone picked her up out of her crib....... Why was the mother not alerted to her cries?

everything just seems so odd to me......

If the intruder was someone known to the family and had been in the home before, he/she would have known where Lisa's room is and Lisa may have been familiar with him/her and may not have cried.
 
  • #795
Is there any layout of the house?
Where is the computer room?
The house doesn't look very big?
About the size of a double wide trailer?
25 x 50 maybe?
 
  • #796
I am thankful that Baby Lisa has stayed in the news. I get so frustrated when missing children are forgotten so soon. As agonizing as the unsolved ones are to me I cannot even imagine spending a whole life wondering about a missing loved one.
 
  • #797
Saw one tweet about LE now searching river, but can't find any details elsewhere. Any locals able to verify?

I can't find the tweet. Can you link it please?

TIA

ETA: Is this it from last night?

SandraKCTV5 Sandra Olivas
twitpic.com/6xurzz We were there as police searched near Kansas river in the baby Lisa disappearance case. More at 10 on kctv5
19 hours ago
 
  • #798
In the JJ interview video the mother says they almost never leave windows open then goes on to say she left the computer room window open and when JI saw it he knew something was wrong? Why did she leave the window open, she didn't say she forgot to close it....None of what she says makes the least bit sense........

Then why o'why does LE have to waste their time re-enacting the scene yesterday? IMO LE was told first thing that , that window was point of entry. They were dusting that window right away. And mom says she left it open. And if mom opened it, then when inthis sequence would dad look at it & "know" something was wrong? And did he see this window when he pulled up and knew or was it after they realized their daughter was gone, cause afterward, I'd think mom would say "i opened that".
 
  • #799
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Police have not released any information about a potential suspect in the disappearance of 10-month-old Lisa Irwin, but a neighbor says investigators have questioned him about a man who has been seen riding his bike in the neighborhood.

The neighbor says authorities brought a picture of a man to his door and asked him if he had seen him.

He told police that he had seen the man, who he described as in his 20s, riding a bike and carrying a backpack.

More of the article
 
  • #800
Is there any layout of the house?
Where is the computer room?
The house doesn't look very big?
About the size of a double wide trailer?
25 x 50 maybe?


See my timeline in my signature for layout picture.
 
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