MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #5

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  • #341
Ugh! I'm so frustrated and sad for this precious baby. I want it all to STOP. LE and the parents need to get over themselves and do what needs to be done to find her. Every second counts in a missing child case. There is no time for bickering and pointing fingers.

Find her! :banghead:

I so terribly agree.

I feel like we've gone from "Find Lisa!"

to

"They aren't cooperating."

"YES we are!"

"Yes we are!"

Ugh. Please! Stop this & let's look for that baby!! :maddening:
 
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Sorry haven't read through all threads, but wasn't there something in the beginning about the parents providing a few names of people that LE should look at? I guess people that might have something against them? I wonder if they owe money to someone. Maybe Dad has a gambling problem and owes a bookie, maybe a drug thing.....and it could be that the wife is unaware. Therefore, yes, someone took her and he probably knows why and who, but is just playing along with the "someone took her" theory and not going beyond that......Just thinking outloud.

Yeah, that's the kind of scenario that pops into my mind when LE talks about them having "intimate knowledge" of what happened.
 
  • #344
I dunno......."Take a break"? Can't imagine taking a break from finding my missing baby especially when I ask others to "keep searching". Maybe I misunderstood your point or exactly what the parents meant as there are lots of gaps in the information.
.... guess we all handle problems differently.

The "take a break" request came from dad after being questioned for 11 hours.

I have no idea how I would handle myself in this situation. Thankfully, I haven't been in one even remotely close in circumstance.
 
  • #345
Am I blind today!!!:banghead:

Watched video after video did NOT see floor plan,


Can someone do a screen Cap?
 
  • #346
The "take a break" request came from dad after being questioned for 11 hours.

I have no idea how I would handle myself in this situation. Thankfully, I haven't been in one even remotely close in circumstance.

11 hours? surely he is entitled to take a break after that length of questioning and not be expected to be critisised for it?
 
  • #347
This is just so sad. I don't think for a minute either parent knows what happened to that dear baby, and now LE is turning on them.

After hours of questioning, they've said all they know. They've said it all. After that, the point of questioning is to break them, or get them to contradict earlier answers. Not to get factual information that will help out. It's to break them.

I'm sure if police get a tip or some other idea comes to mind that they need answers with, the parents will be happy to cooperate. But not for hours of going over the same stuff they've already answered.
 
  • #348
I can't possibly understand what these parents are going through at this time. It just comes down to 2 options for me.

1. They are getting some very bad advice (legal or otherwise) on how to handle this situation.
2. They are not being totally truthful with LE.

It bothers me they are restricting their interviews to the National media. I would think you would want every single opportunity you could snag to get your child's face on tv and in the papers and beg people to help find her. I would think local media would be especially helpful with this.

JMHO
How many people watch Kansas City news? I live in Kansas and I don't get KC stations. If they only talk to national media, that gets their story to EVERYONE.
 
  • #349
Weird, why could they possibly want to do that? Maybe they feel they will cover more bases that way? I don't get it.

It is weird. I think LE knows a lot more than they are disclosing to the general public. There a lot of weird things that supposedly went on the night Lisa went missing.
 
  • #350
I don't think that LE telling her she failed the poly is necessarily the truth or even the point of the strategy. I think they had her take one and not him so they would begin to look at each other. If there are any doubts about one another this will get the ball rolling to ferret out those doubts. Whether they/or one of them are involved or not, LE has to investigate everything and everyone, leaving no stones unturned. Until LE can clear them, they are suspects.
 
  • #351
Am I blind today!!!:banghead:

Watched video after video did NOT see floor plan,


Can someone do a screen Cap?

You aren't blind CN2Souls! Today show hasn't posted the video from this am yet for some reason.:crazy:

wm
 
  • #352
Okay, I think we've established that we're pretty much divided over who is responsible. Let's start sleuthing. Where would we look if our child was missing? What would we do next? What CAN we do to help???
 
  • #353
How many people watch Kansas City news? I live in Kansas and I don't get KC stations. If they only talk to national media, that gets their story to EVERYONE.

But why not utilize all sources ?
 
  • #354
Have been following this case, just want to say I hope they find this little girl soon. Heart is broken for her.

What usually happens in cases where little children disappear like this from their homes? It happened recently in CA and turned out it was the grandmother, right?
 
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another thought - why were all the lights on? why would an intruder put lights on and draw attention to him/herself? why didnt that wake anyone up in the house?

That's a very good question. There is just a lot of odd things going on. And the cell phones. That's just strange.
 
  • #357
Hmmm....well as to #1 I know they have to get a subpoena, but I don't think it's illegal. Remember the girl that went missing from Target and then was found (dead unfortunately) in MO....I'm pretty sure they found her by using the pings.

BBM

I believe that was in Kansas, not MO. I could totally be wrong about that, and I have no clue about if it's illegal in MO or not...
 
  • #358
Hmmm....well as to #1 I know they have to get a subpoena, but I don't think it's illegal. Remember the girl that went missing from Target and then was found (dead unfortunately) in MO....I'm pretty sure they found her by using the pings.

Sorry if this was already answered (still working and catching up), but I think that girl was taken from OVerland Park, Kansas. It's next to Kansas City, Mo., but just over state lines.
 
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But why not utilize all sources ?
That mother looks like she is literally running on empty. A national media interview is what I would do too.
 
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