MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #5
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I hope today LE comes out and apologizes for saying they're not cooperating. That kind of thing can turn the volunteer force off, and taint the public forever in thinking they're uncooperative. : ( I just cry for them.
Where is the interview with Peter Alexander? I am only finding the one with Matt Lauer and there is not a floor plan at the 3 minute mark. Thanks!
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Two things I've been thinking about:
1. I haven't seen any Missing Persons posters. But, I live about 20-30 minutes away. Even though I'm still KCMO, 20-30 minutes is pretty far. There might be more missing persons posters closer. I wonder what JI and DB's support system is like. If they don't have a lot of close friends, they may have trouble finding people to hang posters. Idk. I don't have a printer, otherwise I would print some myself and hang them.
2. I told my mother and fiance a recap about this case last night. Neither knew anything about it besides what I told them. (Mom lives in another state). They both independently came up with the same conclusion: Maybe the mom accidentally dropped or hurt the baby and freaked out and the dad helped her cover it up.I don't think this is the case, but I think it was interesting that both came to the same conclusion.
1. I haven't seen any Missing Persons posters. But, I live about 20-30 minutes away. Even though I'm still KCMO, 20-30 minutes is pretty far. There might be more missing persons posters closer. I wonder what JI and DB's support system is like. If they don't have a lot of close friends, they may have trouble finding people to hang posters. Idk. I don't have a printer, otherwise I would print some myself and hang them.
2. I told my mother and fiance a recap about this case last night. Neither knew anything about it besides what I told them. (Mom lives in another state). They both independently came up with the same conclusion: Maybe the mom accidentally dropped or hurt the baby and freaked out and the dad helped her cover it up.I don't think this is the case, but I think it was interesting that both came to the same conclusion.
Maybe that's what they're thinking, but I'm just frustrated because, you know, just because he was not at home at the time doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about it. And LE has made it clear that they believe someone is hiding something. Why not try to determine if he knows anything? It doesn't make sense to me that they wouldn't give him a poly.
I think it's true that LE is playing some serious mind games with these guys.
That's a common tactic police use to break people. She has no way - none - to determine if it's true.
God help families whose children are stolen when LE turns on them.
Yes, you're right. She says that's what LE told her, but that they presented nothing to back it up.
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Remember you don't turn an accident into a (murder) kidnapping.
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Let me try again hollye! See if this one works.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44813...ther-missing-baby-i-reached-my-boiling-point/
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I'd probably be pretty darn frustrated if I knew that my husband and I were innocent, and were both being grilled for 11 hours by 2, possibly 3 officers. That's 33 actual man hours wasted not following up on other potential leads.
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The floorplan is in the next video titled Cops: Missing tot parents not cooperating.
That's what we keep hearing. How can this be? Several years ago I lost a CAT (and a very new, very naught cat at that), and I managed to single-handedly canvas a large area with missing kitty posters very quickly. How can there not be posters all over the state asking the public for help in finding this precious, precious baby? What is really going on here???
As a mother to three children, this is what I don't get:
My singular mission would be to find my child. Put all pride aside. HELP ME find my child.
If there is a camera within 50 miles wanting to hear me proclaim it even louder, I am going to be in front of it.
If the police hold a press conference and say that I have stopped cooperating with them, it would only increase my desire tenfold to get in front of every camera, to ANYONE who will listen, PLEASE HELP ME FIND MY CHILD.
I can understand being exhausted to the bone, sleep-deprived, etc, but I am not going to slip out of a hotel to avoid a camera which I know will broadcast my plea on television and further put the word out about my missing child.
I am not going to refuse local interviews and "only go national". WTH?!
My singular goal would be to get my child's face on as many TV screens, billboards, flyers, etc. as I can, and keep my child as relevant as I can in the minds of everyone I can reach. The more you recognize and remember what my baby looks like, the better the chance that they may be found.
I am willing to give the parents the benefit, for now. But if they start shrinking away from the limelight, denying further interviews, and avoiding the very agencies who are trying to find out what happened to their baby, I am going to feel much less supportive.
I also admit that I am jaded by the "Susan Smith" cry. Every time I see something like this, when they make those first pleads to the media and the disappearance is fresh, I look at the mother and look for tears on the cheeks, snot, the "ugly cry" face, etc. Sometimes the eyes squint up and the face contorts in a manner that, if that were me crying and making that face, the waterworks would be running down my cheeks, falling off my chin, my nose would start running, etc. When I see that face, even if the eyes appear to mist up, I always look to see if the cheeks are dry.
MOO, of course.
My singular mission would be to find my child. Put all pride aside. HELP ME find my child.
If there is a camera within 50 miles wanting to hear me proclaim it even louder, I am going to be in front of it.
If the police hold a press conference and say that I have stopped cooperating with them, it would only increase my desire tenfold to get in front of every camera, to ANYONE who will listen, PLEASE HELP ME FIND MY CHILD.
I can understand being exhausted to the bone, sleep-deprived, etc, but I am not going to slip out of a hotel to avoid a camera which I know will broadcast my plea on television and further put the word out about my missing child.
I am not going to refuse local interviews and "only go national". WTH?!
My singular goal would be to get my child's face on as many TV screens, billboards, flyers, etc. as I can, and keep my child as relevant as I can in the minds of everyone I can reach. The more you recognize and remember what my baby looks like, the better the chance that they may be found.
I am willing to give the parents the benefit, for now. But if they start shrinking away from the limelight, denying further interviews, and avoiding the very agencies who are trying to find out what happened to their baby, I am going to feel much less supportive.
I also admit that I am jaded by the "Susan Smith" cry. Every time I see something like this, when they make those first pleads to the media and the disappearance is fresh, I look at the mother and look for tears on the cheeks, snot, the "ugly cry" face, etc. Sometimes the eyes squint up and the face contorts in a manner that, if that were me crying and making that face, the waterworks would be running down my cheeks, falling off my chin, my nose would start running, etc. When I see that face, even if the eyes appear to mist up, I always look to see if the cheeks are dry.
MOO, of course.
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Thank you daisy!!! Ya'll scroll down the text and you will see the title that daisy7 posted is highlighted. sorry fo the confusion everyone:banghead:
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I was mulling something like this over with my husband last night....I don't think that happened, but I was speculating maybe a cold med. overdose?? Like Nyquil or something?
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Your post reminded me of something. Last night on one of the local stations (it was either KCTV or KMBC), a woman who lives in Baby Lisa's neighborhood was interviewed. She had two or three small children and she said that she's had to talk with them about what's happening, etc. She also said that the night that Baby Lisa went missing, their dog went missing as well. She didn't act like the two were related at all and I seriously doubt that they are but I did find it pretty strange.
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