MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #5

[nursebeeme]

Here's the floor plan.

wow.. that computer room is huge!

 

[Jacie Estes]

http://www.kmbc.com/video/29415510/detail.html
try this one daisy:crazy:

Thanks for the link. IMHO It seems that the parents were overwhelmed and needed to take a break, I understand that. In this interview it is easy to see their frustration; when the mother speaks of strangers starting FB pages you see that frustration clearly.

I'm gonna go with this is a young couple who has been thrust into the spotlight, has family/friends that are saying 'do this, do that' and are just trying to get some control. If the father spoke with LE for 11 hours and didn't crack, then perhaps there is nothing that he has done wrong. I feel for them, I hope there is a good outcome to this case, Lisa home safe and sound.

I want to reiterate; this area in not smooth terrain. There is a lot of growth/vegetation and undeveloped areas. It could be considered searching for the proverbial needle in a haystack. There are major E-W and N-S highways in the area; it is not an easy place to search. There is also traffic from the casinos along the river there; there are so many possibilities as to her disappearance, I'm not going to point blame at the parents.

 

[SurfieTX]

Where's the bathroom?

 

[belimom]

All lights were on in house. Maybe it was left that way when mom went to bed. Doubtful kidnappers would do that. Cell phones were on kitchen counter. Two working one was broke.

Seems like the mom would have cleared that up and said, "Oh, I left them on." But instead he said that when he saw all the lights on, he immediately knew something was wrong.

 

[belimom]

Not sure if this has been posted yet..

Lisa’s father, Jeremy Irwin, says he has offered to take a lie detector test, but that police say that’s not necessary.

Snipped: http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...an-statement/2011/10/07/gIQAdCD1RL_story.html

To me, this says a lot. LE must know *something* that is pushing them to these specific actions/comments. We're not privy to everything they know and I believe they know much more (cell phone pings, evidence at home, etc.). JMHO

 

[Celeste]

Your post reminded me of something. Last night on one of the local stations (it was either KCTV or KMBC), a woman who lived in Baby Lisa's neighborhood was interviewed. She had two or three small children and she said that she's had to talk with them about what's happening, etc. She also said that the night that Baby Lisa went missing, their dog went missing as well. She didn't act like the two were related at all and I seriously doubt that they are but I did find it pretty strange.

What?!! That CANNOT be a coincidence. Someone was out there that night.

 

[CarrieBean]

Hope this works.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Thanks to those who posted the Today video. I've watched it twice and am baffled by the dad's failure to provide a straightforward answer about whether or not he'd take a polygraph. He does some fancy tap-dancing around Matt Lauer's specific question, and it saddens me to say that JI's demeanor seems suspicious. jmo

 

[daisy7]

Where's the bathroom?

Good question!!!!

 

[Shelby1]

Hope this works.

Nice job!

Yeah, what Surfie said...where's the bathroom?

 

[SurfieTX]

Hope this works.

Thank you. It did. That square in the middle - are those stairs that lead to the lower level?

 

[BeanE]

This video with Peter Alexander is the one that shows the floor plan of the home. it's around the 3 minute mark.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44813...ther-missing-baby-i-reached-my-boiling-point/

Matt asks Jeremy if he thinks Debbie is involved. Jeremy says:

There's no doubt in my mind... there's no way she couldn't have had anything at all...

 

[Celeste]

Hope this works.

Yes, that is wonderful, thank you.

 

[Shelby1]

What?!! That CANNOT be a coincidence. Someone was out there that night.

I'd like to know what kind of dog it is.

 

[JeannaT]

Thanks to those who posted the Today video. I've watched it twice and am baffled by the dad's failure to provide a straightforward answer about whether or not he'd take a polygraph. He does some fancy tap-dancing around Matt Lauer's specific question, and it saddens me to say that JI's demeanor seems suspicious. jmo

He's just in shock. He's exhausted, and he's in shock. I certainly know men who act like that with even a little bit of stress - don't you?

 

[CarrieBean]

Where's the bathroom?

:waitasec:

 

[nursebeeme]

Nice job!

Yeah, what Surfie said...where's the bathroom?

maybe it's in the computer room:rocker:

 

[belimom]

Going way back to the beginning, whatever happened to the story the neighbor told about seeing a man with a baby around midnight? Was that discounted, was it just something the neighbor imagined or made up? Nothing ever came of that or I haven't seen anything posted about it.

Also, when is the FBI normally called into these cases? Are they called in when it's possible state lines have been crossed or is it for local cases also?

I'm new to all this, but I've already learned a lot, reading only this case.

bbm

I was wondering that also. At the very least, it seems like LE would having gotten some SAR dogs around the location that the neighbor said they saw the man/baby. Maybe they did and we just haven't heard? But I was wondering about that also. I do know that there's the 'now that I think about it, I think I saw...' effect that can make folks "see" things in their mind that either they didn't see or that happened at another time. I think I posted about it on Hailey Dunn's thread - retroactive interference interfering with eyewitness testimony. There was a great article that I can't locate at the moment - if I can find it, I'll post it.

 

[liltexans]

Does Jeremy have primary physical custody of his son?

Or does his son just stay at the house part-time?

 

[saba]

Matt asks Jeremy if he thinks Debbie is involved. Jeremy says:

There's no doubt in my mind... there's no way she couldn't have had anything at all...

Glad you love linguistics, Beane.