MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #6

[BeanE]

danbharris dan harris
Hanging on the wall in missing baby Lisa Irwin's nursery: tiny hand and footprints. @Nightline yfrog.com/nxuezjxj
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danbharris dan harris
The crib where missing baby Lisa Irwin was, according to her mom, last seen. More on @Nightline. yfrog.com/kld6altj
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[iamnotagolem]

I'm so confused, who is Jeffrey? I keep seeing him referred to by multiple posters and I don't know who Jeffrey is and how he ties into this.

 

[TGIRecovered]

If anyone thinks a post is in violation of TOS they need to click on the exclamation point in the top right next to the post number so that a moderator can see it.

We are never supposed to complain about other posters on the thread or argue about what we think should or should not be posted.

With this thread moving so quickly, moderators could have to shut it down if we don't stop bickering or complaining!

 

[vlpate]

This baby looks sick and frightened to you? I'm so surprised. This is one of the calmest, happiest looking babies I've ever seen. Also, she's very large so she's not sickly. She's very white, and bald, but she looks very healthy and happy to me.

Maybe it's just the pictures I've seen distributed - the one of her at the door for instance, IMO, she looks terrified. In another, and maybe it's the coloring of the picture, she looks ill. I did see on since I posted that where she is smiling and she looks serene.

Didn't someone say she was not well when she was taken? I could be wrong, everything is going so fast.

 

[MyBelle]

She's answering the public's questions. I'm grateful that she's bothering to do that.

The public has no way to know if she's telling the truth.

JMO

 

[eileenhawkeye]

@Nightline?

Is there going to be a special on Lisa's case?
Nightline even retweeted the tweet about the hands on Lisa's room's wall

 

[mrsu]

She has been interviewed for hours and hours. I'm sure LE knows the answer to that question, and they're not sayin' nothin'. How about if LE really wants this baby found, they'll start providing the public with answers? *crickets*

Isn't this supposed to be a victim friendly board?

They can't win. The Ramseys clammed up, and were vilified for that. Terri Horman clammed up, and was burned at the stake. These parents are talking, they get the same treatment.

And their precious baby is missing, and they have no idea where she is. IMHO, of course.

I didn't follow the Ramsey case so I don't know about that.

However, Teri Horman never said a word in public, to the media, or to LE after she clammed up. IMO, if you're going to be talking, you should be talking to the people who can most likely help find your daughter, and it ain't the media.

Very truthfully, she has a right to keep silent, but why keep up with the insignificant info to the media and not try to work with the LE. If she's concerned to talk to them for fear of being accused, take a lawyer with her.

 

[Angleena]

I see a kitten theme starting to develop here. White kittens on Lisa's top and a stray kitten sleeping in mom's bed.

One thing I know about stray kittens is they hang around a source of food, usually a dumpster, garbage or landfill.

Maybe the kitten holds more clues than we think, if the kitten truly exists.

Where did they come across this kitten, nice diversion for the older boys don't ya think?

Just saying.

Sorry if I offend anyone, I am just very frustrated with this case.

 

[JeannaT]

Maybe it's just the pictures I've seen distributed - the one of her at the door for instance, IMO, she looks terrified. In another, and maybe it's the coloring of the picture, she looks ill. I did see on since I posted that where she is smiling and she looks serene.

Didn't someone say she was not well when she was taken? I could be wrong, everything is going so fast.

She had a cold.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I think someone who is in their phone records has the child. Thus, the throwing away of the phones.

JMO

Interesting theory. Never thought of that.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

If there's going to be a Nightline special about Lisa's case, that's where I could see them licensing pictures of her. These shows are usually about 30 minutes-1 hour long so they are going to need plenty of pictures/videos to fill the time...

 

[~n/t~]

Does it really matter?

Actually it does matter. Not the ongoing debate about why she was wearing shorts but it would be very useful if a picture of what she was last seen wearing would be displayed so the public can be on the lookout.

Probably too late now but still worth it, imo. If mom can contact the store where she bought the clothing or if a friend or relative can take a trip to the store to take a picture. Or perhaps the parents have a photo of baby Lisa wearing the items she was last seen in.

 

[annalia]

Does it really matter?

NO it doesn't matter, I never thought it did and I never said it did, and that wasn't why I posted it.

My one comment was obviously taken wrong.

I simply responded to what I thought the poster was saying that they were her play shorts, not that I personally thought or said that either one was that important.

The poster who I responded to did though, why didn't you ask him or her?

I hope that clears it up.

 

[MyBelle]

IMO, He can't use his work phone for personal use? We don't know what phone he called 911 from. Where has it been stated he has two additional phones? Couldn't a phone belong to Lisa? Broken phone+dad's phone+Mom's phone would be three phones on the counter.

Any phone can call 911.

 

[EllaMae]

I'm sure he could have used the work phone to call 911. However, a lot of companies don't like their work phones being used for personal business/home use. Therefore, he would have another cell phone for that.

Lots of families have multiple cell phones...including mine. It's just not that unusual.

 

[vlpate]

IMO, He can't use his work phone for personal use? We don't know what phone he called 911 from. Where has it been stated he has two additional phones? Couldn't a phone belong to Lisa? Broken phone+dad's phone+Mom's phone would be three phones on the counter.

From what I understand, and I can't confirm or state as fact, Debbie took Jefferey's work phone to the Police station with her and they confiscated it. Again, I can't confirm. We'll have to wait and see if it's true.

 

[gwenabob]

IMO, He can't use his work phone for personal use? We don't know what phone he called 911 from. Where has it been stated he has two additional phones? Couldn't a phone belong to Lisa? Broken phone+dad's phone+Mom's phone would be three phones on the counter.

Lisa is only a baby. Do you mean the mother?

 

[mrye4709]

If Jeffrey had a phone provided by his work, why didn't he use it to call 911?
And why would they need two additional cell phones if he had one from work?

The explanations for the cell phones are only creating more questions.

JMO

My hubby had a company cell and it was not to be used for personal use. Some companies have a policy like this.

 

[belimom]

I was thinking about this as a possibility and hope it's the case since baby Lisa would be alive somewhere. The fact that the family is only dealing with FOX news and not speaking with anyone makes me suspicious. Why turn away ANY media coverage of this story. It's their BABY. The lack of posters for their missing child worries me too. Local news matters and her photo needs to plastered everywhere in their area. I just don't get it.

Bouncing off your post, this has really bothered me -- that a major network could possibly hinder the public's knowledge of a child being missing by preying upon the family in the midst of a crisis and convincing them to speak only to that one network?!? Should be obstruction of justice or hindering an investigation or something. I mean, really, the point of a monopoly is to make money, but having a monopoly on the family of a missing child is absurd.

(I'm saying this regardless of the parents' guilt or innocence in this particular case. In general this whole type of deal is ludicrous.)

JMHO

 

[mrsu]

Terri was CLEARLY in the crosshairs of LE's investigation, with the publishing pics of her vehicle and asking anyone who saw it that morning to call in.

From what we know from Debbie, she is clearly in LE's crosshairs too, especially if, according to her, they were saying, "you did it. you did it. we have nothing."